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A split fermentation Berliner that I brewed recently had a wicked lacto fermentation the first 24 hours or so (harvested off of some grain) and apparently decided to form a nice round buttocks shape. Nice and veiny too. About an hour after I took this picture I guess the CO2 pushed all of the oxygen out because the pellicle completely dropped out and left a nice clean surface.

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Fantome & kriek dreg starter. Should've gotten a profile pic it was 3 dimensional, not just a growth on top of liquid. 2 starters had same growth, both dumped. Makes me question my cleaning regimen.
 
A split fermentation Berliner that I brewed recently had a wicked lacto fermentation the first 24 hours or so (harvested off of some grain) and apparently decided to form a nice round buttocks shape. Nice and veiny too. About an hour after I took this picture I guess the CO2 pushed all of the oxygen out because the pellicle completely dropped out and left a nice clean surface.


That's the breast pellicle I've ever seen! [emoji57]
 
A split fermentation Berliner that I brewed recently had a wicked lacto fermentation the first 24 hours or so (harvested off of some grain) and apparently decided to form a nice round buttocks shape. Nice and veiny too. About an hour after I took this picture I guess the CO2 pushed all of the oxygen out because the pellicle completely dropped out and left a nice clean surface.

Looks like a shaved ball sack
 
rack to secondary as soon as primary is done. don't wait for a pellicle. the CO2 in the beer will help protect it as you transfer.

you don't need a pellicle to make a good sour/funky beer.

Getting weirder after a week...15 days total in primary.

I think the saison yeast has attenuated but Brett is still chugging...there is a positive dP but only small bubbles. The smell is fantastic, like a sour sweaty gym sock. Haven't taken a gravity reading yet but it's probably under 1.010 by now (85% AA).

So...when is primary "done"?

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Getting weirder after a week...15 days total in primary.



I think the saison yeast has attenuated but Brett is still chugging...there is a positive dP but only small bubbles. The smell is fantastic, like a sour sweaty gym sock. Haven't taken a gravity reading yet but it's probably under 1.010 by now (85% AA).



So...when is primary "done"?


If you're going to rack to secondary go for it even if by chance there are a few gravity points left to ferment the yeast and brett still in suspension will have no problem finishing them off. Just dont bottle until you have a stable gravity. Every brett saison/farmhouse type beer I've ever done finished close to 1.000.
 
So...when is primary "done"?
that looks plenty done. rack away. fill up the secondary to the very the top!

If you're going to rack to secondary go for it even if by chance there are a few gravity points left to ferment the yeast and brett still in suspension will have no problem finishing them off. Just dont bottle until you have a stable gravity. Every brett saison/farmhouse type beer I've ever done finished close to 1.000.
+1. and i've had some finish as high as 1.004 but yeah, expect a low final gravity.
 
My pellicle, this is my first spontaneus, i left 2 liters wort for two days in garden and after a week i have this. Tree days ago a beautifull smell, now no smell.
Someone can help me what is this? good or bad?
Do you think is dangerous to taste?
Do you think i can use it to make a sour beer? if yes, i have to use only the liquid part?

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My pellicle, this is my first spontaneus, i left 2 liters wort for two days in garden and after a week i have this. Tree days ago a beautifull smell, now no smell.
Someone can help me what is this? good or bad?
Do you think is dangerous to taste?
Do you think i can use it to make a sour beer? if yes, i have to use only the liquid part?

It's something, can't say what exactly. I would give it some more time before tasting. If it tastes good in a month or two, add some fresh wort and step it up. If that batch tastes good, maybe pitch it in a full size batch.
 
Good question. I dropped my droid and every picture I take has that now. I cleaned the lens (the plastic cover broke off) and it is still there.
 
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