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After another month of lagering, my Paulaner festbier effort tastes a LOT closer to the original. Still a tad too much Munich and a tad too dark. But I'm happy with how close the flavor got. I still have two cans to do another comparison this weekend.

And I've still never seen the liter mug set this year. Even checked costco.
 
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Finally found it, and got their only one. Cant wait to enjoy it.
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Never was impressed by the beer, only bought it for the mugs. At $7.00, a bargain.
 
Okay. Did another side by side tasting. My Paulaner festbier effort tastes like the original but with Vienna and Munich (which is as logical as can possibly be because that's what I added). But I think I was confusing those flavors with more hop flavor in the original.

.....so what hops are in the original?

Next time I brew this I may dial back Vienna 90% and skip Munich (or sub Crystal 40 for both). But I now think hops is where I am missing the mark. I used -
.75 oz Tettnanger (60 minutes); .5 oz Hallertauer Mittelfruh (30 minutes). (6 gallon batch).
 
Okay. Did another side by side tasting. My Paulaner festbier effort tastes like the original but with Vienna and Munich (which is as logical as can possibly be because that's what I added). But I think I was confusing those flavors with more hop flavor in the original.

.....so what hops are in the original?
Good chance it's aged Hallertau. Many Europeans age the hops to knock out the aroma and flavor compounds. At least that's the scuttlebutt.
 
I’d use Pilsner as the base and maybe 10-20% Munich. Forget the Crystal. 90 minute boil, but there will be a bunch of brewers who will boil 60. I do 90 with Pilsner, that’s another thread….

I’d use Hallertau Mittlefruh at 60 min to about 15-20 IBU, and remove the 30 min addition. This is a malt forward beer.

My favorite yeast is WLP833 German Bock. Lager 90 days if you can stay away from it that long.
 
I’d use Pilsner as the base and maybe 10-20% Munich. Forget the Crystal. 90 minute boil, but there will be a bunch of brewers who will boil 60. I do 90 with Pilsner, that’s another thread….

I’d use Hallertau Mittlefruh at 60 min to about 15-20 IBU, and remove the 30 min addition. This is a malt forward beer.

My favorite yeast is WLP833 German Bock. Lager 90 days if you can stay away from it that long.
I concur
 
I bought my 2 last year$8.99 ea, now I get a 6 pack to fill 2 steins, 3x33cl ea🍺😃
 
I’d use Pilsner as the base and maybe 10-20% Munich. Forget the Crystal. 90 minute boil, but there will be a bunch of brewers who will boil 60. I do 90 with Pilsner, that’s another thread….

I’d use Hallertau Mittlefruh at 60 min to about 15-20 IBU, and remove the 30 min addition. This is a malt forward beer.

My favorite yeast is WLP833 German Bock. Lager 90 days if you can stay away from it that long.
That's just about the perfect recipe and process. ++ on the Hallertau Mittelfruh, +++ on the WLP-833.
 
I’d use Pilsner as the base and maybe 10-20% Munich. Forget the Crystal. 90 minute boil, but there will be a bunch of brewers who will boil 60. I do 90 with Pilsner, that’s another thread….

I’d use Hallertau Mittlefruh at 60 min to about 15-20 IBU, and remove the 30 min addition. This is a malt forward beer.

My favorite yeast is WLP833 German Bock. Lager 90 days if you can stay away from it that long.

Here is the grain bill for the GABF Gold Medal Recipe:

10 gallons

15 lbs Ireks Pils
4 lbs Ireks Vienna
10 oz Ireks Munich

I did 2 oz Tettnanger 5.9% for 20 IBU.

Do a 90 minute, vigorous boil.
 
I just sampled my first bottle of HB Festbier today and it turned out rather nice. It was 87 % Pilsner, 10 % Munich and 3 % Aromatic. Hopped for 60 minutes with 23 IBU of Hallertau Mittelfruh and lagered at 40 F for 7 weeks. Initially it had that sulfur smell, but that dissipated during lagering and is now gone. About the only negative that i can see is that it doesn't have much head retention. Perhaps it needs some maltodextrin or wheat next time. Otherwise, it is a decent replica of beers that I had in Munich biergartens.
 
This is my attempt at a festbier, considerable darker(hazier too) than the paulaner. 80% best pilsner, 15% Vienna and 5% melanoidin. Next year no melanoidin and maybe half the vienna.
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The Paulaner looked nice but was bad, smelled and tasted oxidized I am assuming poor storage and handling.
 
I was at Total Wine in Delaware this past weekend and they had a bunch of them. I was at the one in Wilmington. The one in Claymont is bigger.
 
I’d use Pilsner as the base and maybe 10-20% Munich. Forget the Crystal. 90 minute boil, but there will be a bunch of brewers who will boil 60. I do 90 with Pilsner, that’s another thread….

I’d use Hallertau Mittlefruh at 60 min to about 15-20 IBU, and remove the 30 min addition. This is a malt forward beer.

My favorite yeast is WLP833 German Bock. Lager 90 days if you can stay away from it that long.
Tradition is also a commonly used hop in these beers.
 

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