Operation: find the shittiest deal on beer Advocate

[jdd419]

Now that I've been educated on how the razzle works, it doesn't look like there is a way to cheat it. Marksy 's suggestion wouldn't work in a large sample group. What I don't get is why people like donating money to neckbeards. Raffles for charity = understandable.

Then again, I also don't understand why people gamble at all. You are literally giving your money away (or paying for the fun of the game you're playing, even though those games are easily playable for free).
If you need that rush of "winning", go throw disposable income at pink sheet stocks. At least the odds aren't completely against you (if you aren't inept) like they are at a casino.

Or go spend $800 on lambic online. At least you know you are getting the beer.

 

[Marksy]

What I don't get is why people like donating money to neckbeards. Raffles for charity = understandable.

Then again, I also don't understand why people gamble at all. You are literally giving your money away (or paying for the fun of the game you're playing, even though those games are easily playable for free).

 

[tikk]

Some people aren't very good at math. "Well if I win this one I'll only have spent $78 on a kind. I have a 1 in 14 chance of winning."

 

[FoudreGuy]

It's not very likely this occurs because these people don't have actual friends

Our resident Seattle Shitlord Sex Offender Supreme doesn't have a problem having friends.

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

Our resident Seattle Shitlord Sex Offender Supreme doesn't have a problem having friends.

sorry for partying

 

[Ziggy]

Seattle Shitlord Sex Offender Supreme.

That sounds like a ****** up sandwich.

 

[ccbstl]

People are the worst

 

[tikk]

Some people aren't very good at math. "Well if I win this one I'll only have spent $78 on a kbbs I have a 1 in 14 chance of winning."

Stupid autocorrect.

 

[brewtus1]

He's just an easy target for me.

Yeah this doesn't seem unfair at all. there are some fantastic bottles on there. It's not like he's offering treehouse cans.



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Or FT: VR. ISO:VR




BoatsAndHoes and bwcampbell get it

 

[JulianB1]

This raffle world is so crazy to me. What is to stop the enterprising shitlord from just having his buddies use up half the raffle spots each time? Like, there are 10 spots that he "sells" for $50 a pop, but half the people who enter are his bottle share crew where there is no intention of money or a bottle actually being exchanged. Sure, half the time he actually has to make good and send a bottle to Joe Blow Lucky Streak, but the other half he just pockets the $250 and they have a good laugh about it next time they're standing in line and drinking whalez out of ziplock bags.

Nothing stops this. What prevents it from being a good long-term strategy? The Law of Large Numbers.

 

[SammyJaxxx]

Nothing stops this. What prevents it from being a good long-term strategy? The Law of Large Numbers.

Except it is pure profit when you drink it and recap/rewax the bottle.

 

[JulianB1]

Except it is pure profit when you drink it and recap/rewax the bottle.

#herbing

 

[sunnrider]

Those Facebook groups are like traffic accidents, you can't help but look.

I got invited into a few when I was trading/reselling bourbon that's only available in Europe. I totally admit being a secondary seller but I always offered to re buy at cost and postage to anyone I dealt with.

I suspect that some of the regular posters on FB make all of their income by buying and selling beer, mostly cans of late. Small initial cost and then silly resales/razzles. A lot of people say this has to be finite but judging by the wine and whisky worlds my guess is that it's here to stay.

 

[tylerk88]

Those Facebook groups are like traffic accidents, you can't help but look.

I got invited into a few when I was trading/reselling bourbon that's only available in Europe. I totally admit being a secondary seller but I always offered to re buy at cost and postage to anyone I dealt with.

I suspect that some of the regular posters on FB make all of their income by buying and selling beer, mostly cans of late. Small initial cost and then silly resales/razzles. A lot of people say this has to be finite but judging by the wine and whisky worlds my guess is that it's here to stay.

I've never sold or purchased beer, nor am I part of any Facebook trading/selling groups, but is there really that much money to be made on hoppy cans? What does a 4 pack of Tree House beers go for? You'd have to be moving a hell of a lot of cans to make a living doing that, and with allocations so low, it seems like more hassle than it would be worth. Then again, I'm incredibly lazy and mostly like to drink/hoard beer for myself.

 

[Thevicster]

I've never sold or purchased beer, nor am I part of any Facebook trading/selling groups, but is there really that much money to be made on hoppy cans? What does a 4 pack of Tree House beers go for? You'd have to be moving a hell of a lot of cans to make a living doing that, and with allocations so low, it seems like more hassle than it would be worth. Then again, I'm incredibly lazy and mostly like to drink/hoard beer for myself.

If you're driving around the northeast from state to state buying cans for 15 a 4 pack and 90 a case, and selling them 60 a 4 pack that's a 270 per case profit. As little as Two cases a week is 30,000 a year tax free.

And yes, people are doing this.

Maybe I should shut up before more get in on it...

 

[tylerk88]

If you're driving around the northeast from state to state buying cans for 15 a 4 pack and 90 a case, and selling them 60 a 4 pack that's a 270 per case profit. As little as Two cases a week is 30,000 a year tax free.

And yes, people are doing this.

Maybe I should shut up before more get in on it...

Yikes. There are way easier ways to make $30K a year, that's for sure.

 

[factory1]

If you're driving around the northeast from state to state buying cans for 15 a 4 pack and 90 a case, and selling them 60 a 4 pack that's a 270 per case profit. As little as Two cases a week is 30,000 a year tax free.

And yes, people are doing this.

Maybe I should shut up before more get in on it...

Yikes. There are way easier ways to make $30K a year, that's for sure.

There are also guys making a cut on "proxy" raffles for others. Not sure of the percentage, maybe something less than 10%. Also a slow roll to an income but it could make for an easy side gig.

 

[wethorseblanket]

Our resident Seattle Shitlord Sex Offender Supreme doesn't have a problem having friends.

you think anyone would give that guy the time of day if he wasn't sharing his whalez, or if they didn't pool their resources to land big trades and have epic shares? you think they sit around and talk about their lives? **** no. these people are in it to tick beers, period. no one is valuing his friendship.

 

[FoudreGuy]

you think anyone would give that guy the time of day if he wasn't sharing his whalez, or if they didn't pool their resources to land big trades and have epic shares? you think they sit around and talk about their lives? **** no. these people are in it to tick beers, period. no one is valuing his friendship.

I hope you're right, but that also doesn't say much about the people who willingly interact with him.

 

[wethorseblanket]

I hope you're right, but that also doesn't say much about the people who willingly interact with him.

and some of them seem like decent/cool people, so who knows. i'd rather be on the side of the people making the beer, than the people despised by the people making the beer. i feel like it would take some of the enjoyment away from this "hobby" if i was physically banned and blacklisted from multiple places. but hey that's just me.

 

[FoudreGuy]

and some of them seem like decent/cool people, so who knows. i'd rather be on the side of the people making the beer, than the people despised by the people making the beer. i feel like it would take some of the enjoyment away from this "hobby" if i was physically banned and blacklisted from multiple places. but hey that's just me.

Same here. I love that some dude had a shirt made about how he ruined craft beer.

Also, de Garde is the only place he's banned from (at the moment), right?

 

[wethorseblanket]

Same here. I love that some dude had a shirt made about how he ruined craft beer.

Also, de Garde is the only place he's banned from (at the moment), right?

Bottle Logic too from what I've read. I think he showed up at their beer dinner and got denied his case of FO. And he's also apparently on Shaun Hill's radar.

What is the deal with this shirt? Someone set up a chair with his name on it outside Bottleworks too.

 

[FoudreGuy]

What is the deal with this shirt? Someone set up a chair with his name on it outside Bottleworks too.

People don't like him?

 

[abawol01]

I've never sold or purchased beer, nor am I part of any Facebook trading/selling groups, but is there really that much money to be made on hoppy cans? What does a 4 pack of Tree House beers go for? You'd have to be moving a hell of a lot of cans to make a living doing that, and with allocations so low, it seems like more hassle than it would be worth. Then again, I'm incredibly lazy and mostly like to drink/hoard beer for myself.

Care to chime in mlefevre? Last I checked reselling was your main source of income.

 

[wethorseblanket]

People don't like him?

I guess I meant who made it, what does it say, where was it seen?

 

[JulianB1]

Bottle Logic too from what I've read. I think he showed up at their beer dinner and got denied his case of FO. And he's also apparently on Shaun Hill's radar.

What is the deal with this shirt? Someone set up a chair with his name on it outside Bottleworks too.

"*that person's name* ruined craft beer" is a long running meme on some of the Facebook groups.

 

[FoudreGuy]

I guess I meant who made it, what does it say, where was it seen?

Guy with the shirt (I think it said D*** H***** Ruined Craft Beer) works for one of the smaller Seattle-based distributors. I saw a picture of it on BTS from the Brouwers Vol 12 bottle release line.

Not using his full name in case it alerts his batsignal to try and shitpost here again.

 

[wethorseblanket]

yeah see i never know if it's an inside joke, like haha i am laughing with you, we are buddies, or if it's a real problem someone has. i guess as evidenced here, both are possible.

 

[coach1]

D*** H*****

Not using his full name in case it alerts his batsignal to try and shitpost here again.

Dick Head?

edit: I guess it must be Dick Headde based on the number of stars. My bad.

 

[mlefevre]

Care to chime in mlefevre? Last I checked reselling was your main source of income.

last I checked I open way more money in beer then I have ever sold... not sure how that is a "income" lol