Operation: find the shittiest deal on beer Advocate

[RyanG1]

Not BA, but holy ****:

Is it 4 Millennium for KBBS or other way around?

Cc MykelJH

 

[JulianB1]

Is it 4 Millennium for KBBS or other way around?

Cc MykelJH

Looks like in each case it's beer:quantity of 2008 OGV.

 

[jdoucet]

Not BA, but holy ****:

Probably just a late posted april fools joke

 

[RyanMcFly1985]

I think you need to start a separate "Find the Shittiest Tim Rice Bouldering Photos" thread.

Didn't take long.

ISO: '17 ANTEAD set; FT: Pick 8-10 (BA HF, SP, Bottle Logic, etc.)
Discussion in 'ISO:FT' started by SadMachine, Today at 12:14 PM.

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   SadMachine Meyvn (1,200) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey
   Beer Trader
   I'm willing to put together a generous combo from the list below. If you're on the fence let's talk, I can add a bit if necessary.
   
   Hill Farmstead
   Birth of Tragedy: Kochere
   Juicy
   CD 19
   Arthur Puncheon
   Six Years
   M&C 8
   Side Project
   Pulling Nails 6
   Foedre Fermier
   Alesmith
   BA Speedway
   '14 BA Olde Ale (2yrs in barrel)
   '15 BA Olde Ale (1 yr in barrel)
   Other breweries
   Red Eye November
   Mexican Brunch
   Templeton BA Bona Fide
   Gifted Branch
   Map of the Moon
   Abraxas
   No Rules
   Savant Blanc
   Ad Idem
   BA In Absentia Luci w/ vanilla
   
   #1 SadMachine, Today at 12:14 PM
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[Phillyz1]

Damn, just saw all the posts about me from June 2016. I didn't know I riled everyone up so much. Hah. Cheers, hope everyone is doing well.

 

[PSUMike]

Didn't take long.

ISO: '17 ANTEAD set; FT: Pick 8-10 (BA HF, SP, Bottle Logic, etc.)
Discussion in 'ISO:FT' started by SadMachine, Today at 12:14 PM.

Watch Thread

1. 
   
   SadMachine Meyvn (1,200) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey
   Beer Trader
   I'm willing to put together a generous combo from the list below. If you're on the fence let's talk, I can add a bit if necessary.
   
   Hill Farmstead
   Birth of Tragedy: Kochere
   Juicy
   CD 19
   Arthur Puncheon
   Six Years
   M&C 8
   Side Project
   Pulling Nails 6
   Foedre Fermier
   Alesmith
   BA Speedway
   '14 BA Olde Ale (2yrs in barrel)
   '15 BA Olde Ale (1 yr in barrel)
   Other breweries
   Red Eye November
   Mexican Brunch
   Templeton BA Bona Fide
   Gifted Branch
   Map of the Moon
   Abraxas
   No Rules
   Savant Blanc
   Ad Idem
   BA In Absentia Luci w/ vanilla
   
   #1 SadMachine, Today at 12:14 PM
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Depending on which bottles, I don't think anything here is that egregious. Not something I'd do personally but not bad.

 

[RyanMcFly1985]

Depending on which bottles, I don't think anything here is that egregious. Not something I'd do personally but not bad.

He's just an easy target for me.

 

[Ziggy]

I'm like 75% certain that one more beer in and I'm gonna tag Michael Kane in this post. This is the ********* I went up to HF with a while back. Ugh

Wft does "3 spot buyout" mean? Like if i pay $78 x 3, aka $234, does that mead you get the KBBS? Or is it some weird razzle rule i am unfamiliar with? Because I'm pretty sure shitlords are selling their KBBS for like triple that or more.

 

[tikk]

Wft does "3 spot buyout" mean? Like if i pay $78 x 3, aka $234, does that mead you get the KBBS? Or is it some weird razzle rule i am unfamiliar with? Because I'm pretty sure shitlords are selling their KBBS for like triple that or more.

It means, and I hate to know this, once 3 spots are sold, if your number hits on the set drawing day, you pay for the unpaid spots in order to win it. If you don't it typically rolls over to the next drawing to get more spots filled, you can pick a new number for that drawing.

For example ten spots sold you bought #3 and it came up. You would pay for the remaining 5 in order to get your bottle. 5x78 $390. The shitlord that posts it always get paid full value unless they can't draw any interest.

 

[Ziggy]

It means, and I hate to know this, once 3 spots are sold, if your number hits on the set drawing day, you pay for the unpaid spots in order to win it. If you don't it typically rolls over to the next drawing to get more spots filled, you can pick a new number for that drawing.

For example ten spots sold you bought #3 and it came up. You would pay for the remaining 5 in order to get your bottle. 5x78 $390. The shitlord that posts it always get paid full value unless they can't draw any interest.

**** that

 

[PSUMike]

It means, and I hate to know this, once 3 spots are sold, if your number hits on the set drawing day, you pay for the unpaid spots in order to win it. If you don't it typically rolls over to the next drawing to get more spots filled, you can pick a new number for that drawing.

For example ten spots sold you bought #3 and it came up. You would pay for the remaining 5 in order to get your bottle. 5x78 $390. The shitlord that posts it always get paid full value unless they can't draw any interest.

My understanding was it's the opposite. If 3 spots are unsold, the winner can buy them out or let it roll over to the next one if they decline. But if 4 are unsold, it automatically rolls over to the next lotto.

 

[RyanG1]

It means, and I hate to know this, once 3 spots are sold, if your number hits on the set drawing day, you pay for the unpaid spots in order to win it. If you don't it typically rolls over to the next drawing to get more spots filled, you can pick a new number for that drawing.

For example ten spots sold you bought #3 and it came up. You would pay for the remaining 5 in order to get your bottle. 5x78 $390. The shitlord that posts it always get paid full value unless they can't draw any interest.

My understanding is

**** that

 

[Saugusbrewer]

These raffles are worse than the guys on MBC, what a bunch of *********s.

 

[FoudreGuy]

Where the hell did these structured raffles originally come from? I'd love to see what other types of shitlords are out there shitting up the internet.

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

I hate the idea of raffles but I want to devise a raffle with an incredible prize with rules so convoluted that it's nearly impossible to figure out but shitlords are so desperate to participate that they will suffer through parsing out the rules.

Plot twist: the bottles are all empty and somewhere in the rules it left that as a possibility

 

[oregonskibum1]

Where the hell did these structured raffles originally come from? I'd love to see what other types of shitlords are out there shitting up the internet.

It seems like a lot of hassle for what is basically the same money coming in. Why bother?

 

[RyanG1]

I hate the idea of raffles but I want to devise a raffle with an incredible prize with rules so convoluted that it's nearly impossible to figure out but shitlords are so desperate to participate that they will suffer through parsing out the rules.

Plot twist: the bottles are all empty and somewhere in the rules it left that as a possibility

http://www.wikihow.com/Run-for-President-of-the-United-States

?

 

[FoudreGuy]

It seems like a lot of hassle for what is basically the same money coming in. Why bother?

Gives people a false sense of hope.

I hate the idea of raffles but I want to devise a raffle with an incredible prize with rules so convoluted that it's nearly impossible to figure out but shitlords are so desperate to participate that they will suffer through parsing out the rules.

Plot twist: the bottles are all empty and somewhere in the rules it left that as a possibility

Or filled with pee. Waxed and filled with pee.

 

[jdd419]

Dumb question. If I buy a spot in a raffle and win but don't spend 5x$78 do I still pay for my first $78……?

Real question what other things are sold like this? Can't just be for beer.

 

[FoudreGuy]

Dumb question. If I buy a spot in a raffle and win but don't spend 5x$78 do I still pay for my first $78……?

Real question what other things are sold like this? Can't just be for beer.

I think you pay the $78.

 

[tikk]

Dumb question. If I buy a spot in a raffle and win but don't spend 5x$78 do I still pay for my first $78……?

Real question what other things are sold like this? Can't just be for beer.

You have to send your money for your spot before the drawing. So you would have to pay for 6 total.

I know of whisky and hard liquor groups as well. I have been studying the shitlord for a while.

 

[Marksy]

This raffle world is so crazy to me. What is to stop the enterprising shitlord from just having his buddies use up half the raffle spots each time? Like, there are 10 spots that he "sells" for $50 a pop, but half the people who enter are his bottle share crew where there is no intention of money or a bottle actually being exchanged. Sure, half the time he actually has to make good and send a bottle to Joe Blow Lucky Streak, but the other half he just pockets the $250 and they have a good laugh about it next time they're standing in line and drinking whalez out of ziplock bags.

 

[tikk]

This raffle world is so crazy to me. What is to stop the enterprising shitlord from just having his buddies use up half the raffle spots each time? Like, there are 10 spots that he "sells" for $50 a pop, but half the people who enter are his bottle share crew where there is no intention of money or a bottle actually being exchanged. Sure, half the time he actually has to make good and send a bottle to Joe Blow Lucky Streak, but the other half he just pockets the $250 and they have a good laugh about it next time they're standing in line and drinking whalez out of ziplock bags.

It cuts down on potential profitz if they go on a losing streak.

 

[capnmike]

Someone else mentioned in this thread I think - I first became aware of the "satellite" concept with respect to the World Series of Poker. That costs $10K to enter (at least it used to) - but plenty of casinos would run a single table tournament - say 10 players at $100 a person - the winner wins a token worth a seat in a $1,000 tournament - once they have 10 winners of the first round (10 $1,000 chip winners), they run the second tournament - winner take all for the $10,000 entry. Of course, in this case, the casino just makes money by charging a fee ($125 to enter, $100 to the prize pool, $25 to the house).

As Marksy just pointed out - it's much easier to scam the system if the house has a stake in the outcome (if a friend/employee/mule group member "wins").

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

This raffle world is so crazy to me. What is to stop the enterprising shitlord from just having his buddies use up half the raffle spots each time? Like, there are 10 spots that he "sells" for $50 a pop, but half the people who enter are his bottle share crew where there is no intention of money or a bottle actually being exchanged. Sure, half the time he actually has to make good and send a bottle to Joe Blow Lucky Streak, but the other half he just pockets the $250 and they have a good laugh about it next time they're standing in line and drinking whalez out of ziplock bags.

For that matter what even ensures a random number is actually selected?

 

[Sam Fu]

This raffle world is so crazy to me. What is to stop the enterprising shitlord from just having his buddies use up half the raffle spots each time? Like, there are 10 spots that he "sells" for $50 a pop, but half the people who enter are his bottle share crew where there is no intention of money or a bottle actually being exchanged. Sure, half the time he actually has to make good and send a bottle to Joe Blow Lucky Streak, but the other half he just pockets the $250 and they have a good laugh about it next time they're standing in line and drinking whalez out of ziplock bags.

It's not very likely this occurs because these people don't have actual friends

 

[tikk]

For that matter what even ensures a random number is actually selected?

It's based off of the megamillions or Powerball bonus ball.

 

[jdd419]

It's not very likely this occurs because these people don't have actual friends

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[JulianB1]

I hate the idea of raffles but I want to devise a raffle with an incredible prize with rules so convoluted that it's nearly impossible to figure out but shitlords are so desperate to participate that they will suffer through parsing out the rules.

Plot twist: the bottles are all empty and somewhere in the rules it left that as a possibility

JEG has already beat you to this.

 

[Lamnic]

Now that I've been educated on how the razzle works, it doesn't look like there is a way to cheat it. Marksy 's suggestion wouldn't work in a large sample group. What I don't get is why people like donating money to neckbeards. Raffles for charity = understandable.

Then again, I also don't understand why people gamble at all. You are literally giving your money away (or paying for the fun of the game you're playing, even though those games are easily playable for free).
If you need that rush of "winning", go throw disposable income at pink sheet stocks. At least the odds aren't completely against you (if you aren't inept) like they are at a casino.