Operation: find the shittiest deal on beer Advocate

[Saugusbrewer]

Dick Head?

edit: I guess it must be Dick Headde based on the number of stars. My bad.

Dick Humper?

 

[abawol01]

last I checked I open way more money in beer then I have ever sold... not sure how that is a "income" lol

Sounds like you're doing it wrong.

 

[franch]

I've never sold or purchased beer, nor am I part of any Facebook trading/selling groups, but is there really that much money to be made on hoppy cans? What does a 4 pack of Tree House beers go for? You'd have to be moving a hell of a lot of cans to make a living doing that, and with allocations so low, it seems like more hassle than it would be worth. Then again, I'm incredibly lazy and mostly like to drink/hoard beer for myself.

the new ******* TH selling at 75 per, sooooo. **** everything.

 

[Lamnic]

the new ******* TH selling at 75 per, sooooo. **** everything.

So many locals complaining about the secondary price for Juice Machine on Facebook and BA. If people are willing to pay it, then that's what it's worth.

 

[franch]

So many locals complaining about the secondary price for Juice Machine on Facebook and BA. If people are willing to pay it, then that's what it's worth.

this and "**** everything" can both be true.

 

[Saugusbrewer]

So many locals complaining about the secondary price for Juice Machine on Facebook and BA. If people are willing to pay it, then that's what it's worth.

Still scummy to some.

 

[wethorseblanket]

i feel like you can't express displeasure at the secondary market without getting an unsolicited lesson in economics. like yeah, we get it. we aren't asking why. just saying it sucks.

 

[JulianB1]

I suppose it depends, are these locals complaining because the "secondary price" exists at all, or because they think its too high (i.e. something like "I'd pay $20 for a can but not $75!!!")? The former is obviously a perfectly reasonable position to take, while the latter just feels like whining.

 

[chefduff2]

Juice machine isn't that good anyways, at least to me. I'll never understand secondary IPA sales.

 

[Saugusbrewer]

i feel like you can't express displeasure at the secondary market without getting an unsolicited lesson in economics. like yeah, we get it. we aren't asking why. just saying it sucks.

The idea some guy waiting in line for an hour has a higher profit margin than the brewer is ridiculous, no way to stop it unfortunately. Not a fan of it myself at all.

 

[JulianB1]

Juice machine isn't that good anyways, at least to me. I'll never understand secondary IPA sales.

I've done it a couple of times when I was super eager to set up a big blind taste test of some sort and wanted to get everything really quick so it was all the same freshness (or roughly so). Usually this has taken the form of "here's a new IPA release from a brewery in NC or SC, let's get some Tree House and Trillium and see how it stacks up" and I end up just buying a few cans rather than trying to set up a trade (which honestly for Tree House cans is often a real headache). I'm talking more like stuff in the $10/can range though. Yes that's still dumb, but I'm definitely not paying $50-75 for an IPA ever.

 

[Saugusbrewer]

I've done it a couple of times when I was super eager to set up a big blind taste test of some sort and wanted to get everything really quick so it was all the same freshness (or roughly so). Usually this has taken the form of "here's a new IPA release from a brewery in NC or SC, let's get some Tree House and Trillium and see how it stacks up" and I end up just buying a few cans rather than trying to set up a trade (which honestly for Tree House cans is often a real headache). I'm talking more like stuff in the $10/can range though. Yes that's still dumb, but I'm definitely not paying $50-75 for an IPA ever.

I hope he meant 4 pack at that price which is still ridiculous

 

[chefduff2]

I've done it a couple of times when I was super eager to set up a big blind taste test of some sort and wanted to get everything really quick so it was all the same freshness (or roughly so). Usually this has taken the form of "here's a new IPA release from a brewery in NC or SC, let's get some Tree House and Trillium and see how it stacks up" and I end up just buying a few cans rather than trying to set up a trade (which honestly for Tree House cans is often a real headache). I'm talking more like stuff in the $10/can range though. Yes that's still dumb, but I'm definitely not paying $50-75 for an IPA ever.

Agreed I'll never pay that much. I've just seen in local groups charging 50$ for a bissell 4 pack to their friends. $40 for Trillium. When did people just stop picking up beer at costs for friends or even other members of a local community?

 

[JulianB1]

I hope he meant 4 pack at that price which is still ridiculous

No, people are seriously paying $50-75 for one ******* can of Juice Machine just so they can get a tick that I'm guessing isn't much different than most other Tree House DIPAs (I've not had it).

 

[FoudreGuy]

i feel like you can't express displeasure at the secondary market without getting an unsolicited lesson in economics. like yeah, we get it. we aren't asking why. just saying it sucks.

I know that I can't stop the secondary market. But I sure as hell can complain about it impacting my local breweries. I don't really trade, so when I buy a beer I'm going to drink it. I have no other motivation.

 

[Saugusbrewer]

No, people are seriously paying $50-75 for one ******* can of Juice Machine just so they can get a tick that I'm guessing isn't much different than most other Tree House DIPAs (I've not had it).

Beer is good, beer people are stupid.Only thing I would pay that much for would be lambic.

 

[JulianB1]

lol dontdrinkbeer are you serious with that Twitter post? Are people really trading for empty bottles of Byzantine Vision from Bottle Logic so they can return them or something due to infection?

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

lol dontdrinkbeer are you serious with that Twitter post? Are people really trading for empty bottles of Byzantine Vision from Bottle Logic so they can return them or something due to infection?

i have seen several



dudes rolling up with shopping carts full of BZ empties, getting that jam the radar CRV

 

[ewwiccc]

lol dontdrinkbeer are you serious with that Twitter post? Are people really trading for empty bottles of Byzantine Vision from Bottle Logic so they can return them or something due to infection?

i've seen a few posts now on reddit that are offering proxies for people to swap theirs out. I've seen a post or two on facebook where people are asking for empties but i'm hoping those are jokes...

 

[ewwiccc]

i have seen several



dudes rolling up with shopping carts full of BZ empties, getting that jam the radar CRV

dammit, I wanted to tag this fool on reddit. Anyone catch the username?

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

i've seen a few posts now on reddit that are offering proxies for people to swap theirs out. I've seen a post or two on facebook where people are asking for empties but i'm hoping those are jokes...

ah man he deleted it

I can go find the other IRL trash diggers and screen cap them but that's too much work

suffice it to say, Bubbles is alive and well scrapping wares in the beer scene fueling a fruited stout addiction.

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

dammit, I wanted to tag this fool on reddit. Anyone catch the username?

he deleted it right as I linked it:

ISO: Byzantine Vision (empty or full) | FT: List (self.beertrade)

submitted 2 hours ago by dvujuice

 

[ewwiccc]

he deleted it right as I linked it:

ISO: Byzantine Vision (empty or full) | FT: List (self.beertrade)

submitted 2 hours ago by dvujuice

thx. Tagggggged

 

[rrryanc]

Then again, I also don't understand why people gamble at all. You are literally giving your money away (or paying for the fun of the game you're playing, even though those games are easily playable for free).
If you need that rush of "winning", go throw disposable income at pink sheet stocks. At least the odds aren't completely against you (if you aren't inept) like they are at a casino.

It's entertaining, that's why. The random chance is the entire point of it, which removes pink sheet stocks from being an analogous comparison. If I lose at craps, or roulette, or a slot machine, it's because the dice, wheel or universe hate me. If I lose at penny stocks, it's because I didn't put in enough work and research (as well as the universe hating me).

Set an upper limit, enjoy the thrill of the unknown while the bet is in progress and if you win, definitely enjoy that.

 

[Thevicster]

Yikes. There are way easier ways to make $30K a year, that's for sure.

Are there? Not to belabor the point, somebody who lives in the general area picks up cases f heady, focal banger, crusher at the brewery once a week, makes a well timed trip to treehouse, stops at trillium.... It's not much work at all.

30k tax free is what, 50-60k per year before taxes, FICA, jealth insurance are taken out?

And while I'm not giving tax advice here, that money is absolutely income and taxable. God help anyone truly running a business like this who's cheating the tax man...

 

[JulianB1]

Are there? Not to belabor the point, somebody who lives in the general area picks up cases f heady, focal banger, crusher at the brewery once a week, makes a well timed trip to treehouse, stops at trillium.... It's not much work at all.

30k tax free is what, 50-60k per year before taxes, FICA, jealth insurance are taken out?

And while I'm not giving tax advice here, that money is absolutely income and taxable. God help anyone truly running a business like this who's cheating the tax man...

You do need to factor in:

-shipping costs (sometimes, this is occasionally included and occasionally the responsibility of the buyer)
-shipping materials costs
-gas costs/wear-and-tear on the vehicle
-time (which has value since it could be used doing something else, like making an hourly wage) spent packing, purchasing packing materials, dropping off boxes, driving and waiting in line for beer, etc.

Maybe that doesn't dip that much into the ~30k, but it's got to add up to something.

 

[Thevicster]

You do need to factor in:

-shipping costs (sometimes, this is occasionally included and occasionally the responsibility of the buyer)
-shipping materials costs
-gas costs/wear-and-tear on the vehicle
-time (which has value since it could be used doing something else, like making an hourly wage) spent packing, purchasing packing materials, dropping off boxes, driving and waiting in line for beer, etc.

Maybe that doesn't dip that much into the ~30k, but it's got to add up to something.

Agreed. Those need to be considered, but I'd say it's a minimal impact.

 

[SeaWatchman]

last I checked I open way more money in beer then I have ever sold... not sure how that is a "income" lol

Lol... "open[ing] way more money in beer" than you sell. Cool story bro, but you need to tell us about your glory days at the top of the Beanie Baby racket back in the 90s. I bet that was gangster as hell.

 

[IndianaJones]

Not sure where tikk is but..

last I checked I open way more money in beer then I have ever sold... not sure how that is a "income" lol

an**

 

[claaark13]

Are there? Not to belabor the point, somebody who lives in the general area picks up cases f heady, focal banger, crusher at the brewery once a week, makes a well timed trip to treehouse, stops at trillium.... It's not much work at all.

30k tax free is what, 50-60k per year before taxes, FICA, jealth insurance are taken out?

And while I'm not giving tax advice here, that money is absolutely income and taxable. God help anyone truly running a business like this who's cheating the tax man...

The new shirt of 2019:

"The IRS Ruined Craft Beer"


I'm going to make some now while the price is still low on custom t-shirts and before the demand curve begins rolling. Seeking like-minded investors for some Schedule K-1 profit. PM if interested.