Nugget Nectar Clone

[reddskinnfan]

Sheeldon,

How did your turn out?

Xcorpia,

What do you think of that hop schedule? What flavors/aromas are you getting from them?

 

[Xcorpia]

Well I was in a hurry while bottling it and I had the hydro sample in a graduated cylinder when I tasted it so I really couldn't smell it properly, nevertheless it had a huge nose to it. It tasted sweeter, fruitier and had a lighter body than NN. It smelled and tasted like apricots with mangoes and/or orange and some flower in it. Just wonderful!

 

[Sheldon]

Reddskinnfan, I plan to bottle sometime early this week, maybe tomorrow if we finish up brewing two batches early. I will let you know at that point.

 

[dcp27]

Finally got around to giving this another go. I went with something similar to redskins latest, but I swapped out some pils for rye just for fun and had to swap palisade out for cascade tho. Also went with Kolsch yeast instead of chico. I'll report back in another month once its ready.

 

[reddskinnfan]

DCP,

Good luck!

Sheeldon,

Did you ever bottle and taste? What did you think?

Xcorpia,

How are things going with yours?

 

[Xcorpia]

I haven't tasted it yet. It's been bottled just 9 days. Waiting 5 more days for the 2 week mark. Don't want to waste a single drop of my precious nectar. LOL

 

[Sheldon]

my clone has been in bottles one week today. i plan to try one tonite and will report back. I usually wait 2 weeks to sample, but the last 2 batches I made were carbed in one.

 

[kapbrew13]

my clone has been in bottles one week today. i plan to try one tonite and will report back. I usually wait 2 weeks to sample, but the last 2 batches I made were carbed in one.

Is there truth to conditioning past the point of carbonation?

 

[bovineblitz]

Is there truth to conditioning past the point of carbonation?

My beer don't taste good til at least 2 weeks, usually 3... and then they're best around 4-5 weeks.

 

[kapbrew13]

My beer don't taste good til at least 2 weeks, usually 3... and then they're best around 4-5 weeks.

Good to hear. I let mine ferment for about 4 wks and 3 wks bottled. I guess I have the luxury of a full fridge at the moment.

 

[Sheldon]

Well, had my first taste and I must say its pretty good. It still needs another week or two to smooth out. The only problem I have is that it fermented out to 8.8% ABV, so its not gona be a session beer, but it leaves a nice citrusy taste in my mouth.

 

[Xcorpia]

Dudes: I tasted mine and by far it is the best beer I've brewed so far. It tastes very similar to NN, but even better! I'll do a side by side in a few days.

 

[reddskinnfan]

Congrats! I take payments in beer!

 

[Xcorpia]

Congrats! I take payments in beer!

Hmm...what state are you from? Sorry, can't see your profile from my phone.

 

[reddskinnfan]

Maryland, but I was just kidding. Enjoy your well brewed batch. Just make sure you give a full side-by-side comparison.

-Mike

 

[Xcorpia]

Maryland, but I was just kidding. Enjoy your well brewed batch. Just make sure you give a full side-by-side comparison.

-Mike

I have a cousin that lives in Maryland. We can probably meet when I visit her in the near future and swap some beer. I'm from Mass.

I didn't do the side by side yesterday because I had a couple (more like 5) brews already. LOL

 

[reddskinnfan]

Updates everyone! I want to hear how this turned out for everyone after a little more aging.

 

[Sheldon]

Me likes mucho. I tastes tropical flavors and its very tastey. I gave a bottle to someone at work and they loved it, will be hitting it up a lot this weekend. Appreciate the recipe dude.

Sheldon

 

[Montanaandy]

I have brewed this twice and it has turned out very well each time. I have never actually had the "real" NN so I have no idea whether it is true to form or not.

I have followed the grain bill for each recipe. I forgot to dry hop in the fermenter with this last batch. I added Falconer's Flight to the Nugget and Simcoe that I previously used in the dry hop, this time in the keg. I pulled the hop bag out after a week or so - only because it had frozen up and was blocking the dip tube from dispensing. Really nice, hoppy beer which is the way that I prefer.

All in all a really good recipe + beer and one that I keep returning to. Job well done.

 

[Buna_Bere]

The Troegs Brewery guys were on The Brewing Network last night, they gave alot of info about the Nugget Nectar recipe. Here's a link

http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/764


I was suprised how much Vienna malt they said to use.

here's a quick summary

80% Vienna malt

nugget for bittering
simcoe(mango variety not cat pee type) for middle and end hops
hopback mostly simcoe and a little tomahawk
dryhop with nugget, warrior, and a few more hops

clean yeast with little esters




Bob

 

[bovineblitz]

My batch turned out pretty tasty, I think it peaked at about 8 weeks in the bottle.

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.35 gal
Boil Size: 6.82 gal
Estimated OG: 1.071 SG
Estimated Color: 9.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 89.8 IBU

Ingredients:
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7.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) UK (1.0 SRM) 47.3 %
3.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) 20.3 %
3.00 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) 20.3 %
1.50 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 10.1 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) 1.7 %
0.04 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) 0.3 %
0.75 oz Nugget [13.00%] (60 min) 29.8 IBU
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50%] (20 min) 7.9 IBU
0.50 oz Palisade [8.00%] (20 min) 7.4 IBU
0.50 oz Nugget [13.00%] (20 min) 12.0 IBU
1.00 oz Nugget [13.00%] (10 min) 14.4 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50%] (10 min) 9.4 IBU
1.00 oz Palisade [8.00%] (10 min) 8.9 IBU
1.50 oz Nugget [13.00%] (0 min)
2.00 oz Nugget [13.00%] (Dry Hop 3 days)
3.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min)
4.00 gal Monadnock Spring Water Water
1 Pkgs S05 Yeast-Ale

The hop profile is def a little different from the actual nugget nectar but I was going for a lighter fruitier hop character with the Amarillo. Turned out well I'd say, SWMBO is a fan and she doesn't really like Nugget Nectar.

 

[bellsbrat]

The Troegs Brewery guys were on The Brewing Network last night, they gave alot of info about the Nugget Nectar recipe. Here's a link

http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/764


I was suprised how much Vienna malt they said to use.

here's a quick summary

80% Vienna malt

nugget for bittering
simcoe(mango variety not cat pee type) for middle and end hops
hopback mostly simcoe and a little tomahawk
dryhop with nugget, warrior, and a few more hops

clean yeast with little esters




Bob

Thats great I sent Justin a couple emails seeing if he could get info on this brew,have not heard the podcast yet will try to listen tonight

Cheers
Bellsbrat

 

[bill42]

podcast said use about 80% vienna. it also has a good amount of simcoe hops

 

[Xcorpia]

So just as promised I finall did a side by side comparison.

Appearance: my bottle was a gusher so it was cloudier and a light brown color compared to the original which is clear and copper.

Smell: NN smells sweet. Mine smells hoppy.

Taste: veerryyy similar, the original tastes more caramelly

Mouthfeel: the original feels oilier, mine is more watery, but in a good way because its more refreshing.

Overall: NN is sweeter and mine is hoppier. In order to taste, smell and feel more like the original we need more caramel flavor, a bit more body and less bitternes.

This is still a great beer. Thanks for the recipe!

 

[bovineblitz]

podcast said use about 80% vienna. it also has a good amount of simcoe hops

Wow 80%, interesting.

 

[dstar26t]

So just as promised I finall did a side by side comparison.

Appearance: my bottle was a gusher so it was cloudier and a light brown color compared to the original which is clear and copper.

Smell: NN smells sweet. Mine smells hoppy.

Taste: veerryyy similar, the original tastes more caramelly

Mouthfeel: the original feels oilier, mine is more watery, but in a good way because its more refreshing.

Overall: NN is sweeter and mine is hoppier. In order to taste, smell and feel more like the original we need more caramel flavor, a bit more body and less bitternes.

This is still a great beer. Thanks for the recipe!

How old was the NN you were comparing to?

They also mentioned in the podcast that they dryhop 130 lbs per 100 bbl which is 19 grams per gallon.

 

[Xcorpia]

I think it was this year's batch and I've had it for about 2 months.

Maybe the differences were my fault. First, I did a PM because at the moment I didn't have the equipment for AG (now I do ). Second, I think mine was hoppier because I added the hops on a bag and squeezed it when I pulled it out. Third I think my temps were too high because I used a cheap thermometer. Fourth I should have left it in primary a couple more weeks so it could clarify better. And fifth I think it fermented too hot because there were freakishly high temps and I don't have temp control.

 

[bill42]

i tried a 6pack a few months ago, i must of got an old pack, mine had little to no hop aroma

 

[bellsbrat]

This recipe was in the July/Aug. 2008 Zymurgy. The writer said it was provided by the brewer. I have tried it and it is great.
Nugget Nectar
og 1075
ibu 86
srm 11.4
90 min boil
6.5 Pils
7 Munich
5 oz Crystal 120

Mash 152

1 oz Nugget 60
1/2 half oz Simcoe 30
1 oz Warrior 20
1.25 oz Tomahawk 0
1 oz Palisade 0
1 oz Simcoe Dry
1 oz Palisade Dry
Yeast Wyeast 1056

Chris Trogner said this recipe is a clone attempt from a friend that he brewed with in Colorado and now works for Zymurgy and is almost the exact recipe.He also says 80% Vienna with Nugget and Simcoe in the middle and the end. He says they Hopback with Simcoe and little Tomahawk and dry hopped with Nugget, Warrior and more (this may be where the Palisade comes in) @ a rate of 130lb per 100 barrel all the info for the podcast starts at about 1:30 min in if you dont want to listen to it all.

 

[smokinghole]

i tried a 6pack a few months ago, i must of got an old pack, mine had little to no hop aroma

I found some at a store in NJ a week ago. I passed on buying some because it was last brewed in like Jan/Feb. Nothing like six month old IPA.