New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[thepapasmurf]

In NH 4 packs from mediocre breweries are 17 to 20 $ for a 4pack. I'll keep drinking my homebrew till I find something worth 20 bucks for 4

 

[Dgallo]

In NH 4 packs from mediocre breweries are 17 to 20 $ for a 4pack. I'll keep drinking my homebrew till I find something worth 20 bucks for 4

I agree, I prefer my Homebrew over 95%+ of brewers.

That said, spyglass is pretty solid in NH

 

[wepeeler]

$12.75/lb Citra!

https://yakimavalleyhops.com/products/citra-hop-pellets?variant=39966374985861

 

[BrewMan13]

I agree, I prefer my Homebrew over 95%+ of brewers.

That said, spyglass is pretty solid in NH

So do I lol

 

[agentbud]

Treehouse-style IPA recipe design video:

 

[JTtilinfinity]

$12.75/lb Citra!

https://yakimavalleyhops.com/products/citra-hop-pellets?variant=39966374985861

Why do these flash sales always come right after I paid full price? Just bought a pound for 22.99 a month ago.

That said, in for 1

 

[wepeeler]

Why do these flash sales always come right after I paid full price? Just bought a pound for 22.99 a month ago.

That said, in for 1

Always! I try to buy in bulk, and usually when I do, they send out sale emails!

 

[James Quall]

$12.75/lb Citra!

https://yakimavalleyhops.com/products/citra-hop-pellets?variant=39966374985861

Great price but I've been thinking about Citra lately.

Is Citra overrated or have I just recently had mediocre beers that have had Citra in it?

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I love citra.

 

[TBA]

I’ll be heading to southern call here in 2 weeks. I can get electric brewing co, north park, green cheek , monkish

I’m heading to southern cal soon. What are some recommendations in the north San Diego area?

 

[TBA]

$12.75/lb Citra!

https://yakimavalleyhops.com/products/citra-hop-pellets?variant=39966374985861

Any feedback on this years Citra crop? I’m still using up 2020…

 

[Dgallo]

I’m heading to southern cal soon. What are some recommendations in the north San Diego area?

North park is a must. Modern times is solid and white labs yeast is out there, highly suggest checking them out. They have a brewery too where they showcase their strains

 

[wepeeler]

Great price but I've been thinking about Citra lately.

Is Citra overrated or have I just recently had mediocre beers that have had Citra in it?

Citra is my go to for NEIPAs. A lot of brewers are probably burnt out on Citra, but I find it to be the best NEIPA hop. That's purely MY opinion. I also love Simcoe, but Citra is a winner.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Simcoe and citra are pretty well locked in all my neipa batches.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

$12.75/lb Citra!

Expect more of that, there's a surplus of things like Citra and Mosaic at the moment as part of a wider surplus of 35 to 40 million pounds of hops in the industry and Stan Hieronymus' latest newsletter talks about it and also this article from him :
https://brewingindustryguide.com/rightsizing-the-hop-market/Because they occupy 31 percent of acres planted, Citra and Mosaic are central to the discussion about making cuts. Acreage of those two alone grew by 9,125 over the past four years, even as overall acreage increased by only 4,750. Cutting 30 percent of those two would amount to more than 5,500 acres. There would still be almost 13,000 acres left to harvest, much more than four years ago.
Haas and Yakima Chief Ranches (YCR) are partners in the breeding company and thus hold plant rights to those and other HBC cultivars. On farms where Haas has not renewed contracts or bought them out for 2023, the plants will be removed. Growers will plant something else or leave them fallow.

He also mentions that the Kiwis have named NZH-102 Superdelic :
an offspring of Hersbrucker Pure (herself 42% Hallertau Mittelfrüh, 13% Saazer, 22% German wild hop, remainder unknown) and a New Zealand male known for contributing tropical character to its progeny. Superdelic contains 12% alpha acids, 3.5% beta acids and 1.5-2 ml/100 g essential oil.
Like Nectaron, a hop brewers will find easier to get their hands on after the 2023 harvest, Superdelic is tropical and IPA ready. Red fruit candy is prominent on the rub, and red fruit shows up in the beer as well, along with underlying tropical fruits.

 

[Dgallo]

https://brewingindustryguide.com/rightsizing-the-hop-market/Because they occupy 31 percent of acres planted, Citra and Mosaic are central to the discussion about making cuts. Acreage of those two alone grew by 9,125 over the past four years, even as overall acreage increased by only 4,750. Cutting 30 percent of those two would amount to more than 5,500 acres. There would still be almost 13,000 acres left to harvest, much more than four years ago.
Haas and Yakima Chief Ranches (YCR) are partners in the breeding company and thus hold plant rights to those and other HBC cultivars. On farms where Haas has not renewed contracts or bought them out for 2023, the plants will be removed. Growers will plant something else or leave them fallow.

He also mentions that the Kiwis have named NZH-102 Superdelic :
an offspring of Hersbrucker Pure (herself 42% Hallertau Mittelfrüh, 13% Saazer, 22% German wild hop, remainder unknown) and a New Zealand male known for contributing tropical character to its progeny. Superdelic contains 12% alpha acids, 3.5% beta acids and 1.5-2 ml/100 g essential oil.
Like Nectaron, a hop brewers will find easier to get their hands on after the 2023 harvest, Superdelic is tropical and IPA ready. Red fruit candy is prominent on the rub, and red fruit shows up in the beer as well, along with underlying tropical fruits.

Do you have any info on Peacherine? I know it’s new to the pro markets this year and only a handful of the “top” breweries.

 

[anteater8]

I agree, I prefer my Homebrew over 95%+ of brewers.

That said, spyglass is pretty solid in NH

This is absolutely true for me as well for NEIPAs, I can't seem to mess them up if I tried. If I'm going to be good at one style, I'm glad its NEIPA since commercial versions are so expensive and hit or miss. When it comes to American IPA's and pilsners... I don't come anywhere close to competing with the commercial stuff.

 

[CascadesBrewer]

Treehouse-style IPA recipe design video:

This recipe calls for around 0.75 oz of hops at 20 min in the boil and another 0.75 oz of hops at flameout (for a 5-ish gallon batch, plus 20 IBUs at the start of the boil). So there is 20 IBUs from the Magnum addition, and 15 IBUs from the 20 minute addition (plus some IBUs from the flameout addition). The recipe then has around 10 oz of a dry hop. The later boil additions and the dry hop are Citra, Amarillo, and Simcoe.

That does not match up with the hopping schedules I have been playing with (little no zero in the boil, 6 oz in the whirlpool and 6-8 oz in the dry hop), but...what to the experts on this thread think about that schedule? Is it a recipe worth trying to brew?

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Do you have any info on Peacherine? I know it’s new to the pro markets this year and only a handful of the “top” breweries.

Really early days it seems - anywhere else it wouldn't be named yet. I guess we'll know more in a few months time once they've had a chance to brew some test beers with this year's crop. But it sounds really interesting, one to look out for definitely. (for those who haven't heard of Peacherine it's described as "a complex nectarine and citrus character with sweet fruit, lime zest and indistinct tropical notes")

There's some fun things coming out of NZ at the moment, no doubt Stan will be able to tell us more after his "family holiday" which just so happens to be New Zealand in March.... Freestyle are exploring blends of hops with other things; Kohia Nelson is a blend of dried passionfruit with Motueka, Rakau and Cascade, and Mega Motueka is a high-thiol lot of Motueka blended with Phantasm.

 

[Dgallo]

So do I lol

Thanks brother. Same goes for you!

 

[wepeeler]

Do you have any info on Peacherine? I know it’s new to the pro markets this year and only a handful of the “top” breweries.

I want some Peacherine as well. Had this beer from Eredita. Awesome.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

He also mentions that the Kiwis have named NZH-102 Superdelic

I assume that's meant to be pronounced "Super-delish", as in delicious. But I keep seeing it with an -ick on the end, as in Super Derek. And now it's always going to be Super Derek for me....

 

[palmtrees]

I assume that's meant to be pronounced "Super-delish", as in delicious. But I keep seeing it with an -ick on the end, as in Super Derek. And now it's always going to be Super Derek for me....

I read it as super-dell-ick, as in rhyming with psychedelic, but I think Super Derek might stick.

 

[faithie999]

$12.75/lb Citra!

https://yakimavalleyhops.com/products/citra-hop-pellets?variant=39966374985861

a great deal--thanks for sharing.

how long will hops last if vacuum sealed and stored in the freezer?
I assume the Yakima valley packaging is freezer-ready, but after I open one I will vacuum seal and freeze the remainder.
the shipping for 2 lb is the same as for 1 lb but it will take me a while to use 2 lb!
thanks
Ken

 

[Ren06]

$12.75/lb Citra!

https://yakimavalleyhops.com/products/citra-hop-pellets?variant=39966374985861

Just purchased a few pounds, thanks for the info

 

[jnecessary]

a great deal--thanks for sharing.

how long will hops last if vacuum sealed and stored in the freezer?
I assume the Yakima valley packaging is freezer-ready, but after I open one I will vacuum seal and freeze the remainder.
the shipping for 2 lb is the same as for 1 lb but it will take me a while to use 2 lb!
thanks
Ken

Years.

 

[secretlevel]

This recipe calls for around 0.75 oz of hops at 20 min in the boil and another 0.75 oz of hops at flameout (for a 5-ish gallon batch, plus 20 IBUs at the start of the boil). So there is 20 IBUs from the Magnum addition, and 15 IBUs from the 20 minute addition (plus some IBUs from the flameout addition). The recipe then has around 10 oz of a dry hop. The later boil additions and the dry hop are Citra, Amarillo, and Simcoe.

That does not match up with the hopping schedules I have been playing with (little no zero in the boil, 6 oz in the whirlpool and 6-8 oz in the dry hop), but...what to the experts on this thread think about that schedule? Is it a recipe worth trying to brew?

It's not anything that hasn't been done before, maybe a slightly above normal bittering addition and a higher whirlpool temp (flameout), otherwise seems like a standard NEIPA recipe... I've made some 60 IBU NEIPAs before (lots of late additions) and I like them personally. Judges will dock points for bitterness, but some bittering really cuts through the juiciness and adds a very drinkable dimension.

 

[Ulisses4677]

I’m heading to southern cal soon. What are some recommendations in the north San Diego area?

Check out bottlecraft they have a few locations throughout San Diego they have beers from almost every brewery from Southern California and a bunch of Russian river beers. I would highly recommend going to electric brewing in Murrieta Ca about a hour dr from San Diego.

 

[CascadesBrewer]

It's not anything that hasn't been done before, maybe a slightly above normal bittering addition and a higher whirlpool temp (flameout), otherwise seems like a standard NEIPA recipe... I've made some 60 IBU NEIPAs before (lots of late additions) and I like them personally. Judges will dock points for bitterness, but some bittering really cuts through the juiciness and adds a very drinkable dimension.

I guess I wonder because your "Award Winning" recipe uses 8 oz in the whirlpool, which is a lot more than 0.75 oz! (Plus another 13 oz in the dry hop.)

I looked back at the brew day video, at at one point the assistant says there are 45g in the 10 minute addition and the amount Nate pours in for the flameout addition looks like the same amount. I am not sure what size batch they are brewing. Maybe 12 gallons? So it sounds like the description lines up with what they brewed.

I might brew the beer just to try out a different approach and for the novelty of brewing a "Tree House Recipe." I might have to swap in something for the Simcoe since I am all out (I have plenty of hops like Idaho-7, HBC-568, El Dorado, Azacca, BRU-1, etc. that I want to use up before purchasing more).

 

[agentbud]

Treehouse-style IPA recipe design video:

I am thinking about giving this recipe a try but may use hops I have on hand. I have plenty of Citra but no Simcoe or Amarillo. Was thinking of replacing those two with Cascade and Mosaic, which I already have. Do y'all think those would be similar enough or not?