New England IPA "Northeast" style IPA

[kurds_2408]

Finally got around to making mine I was asking for advice awhile back. Kept it simple with
85% Golden Promise
10% Flaked Oats
5% Carapils
Basic hazy hop schedule with 2:1:1 Cascade/Citra/Simcoe
Kegged today with an ounce of home grown Cascade in the Keg.
I'll post a photo when it's carbed but the hydro sample was amazing.

 

[Fergal]

Has anyone ever pitched wort onto a previous dry hop? I have a very clean dry hop from a previous beer that was in contact for 48 hours (cali ipa) and I'm considering pitching my hazy wort straight onto it like a day 1 dry hop. I'm tempted to experiment and take one for the team.

I'll be able to drop out the yeast and hops after fermentation. My thoughts are it will add a lot of depth to the beer and then I can finish it off with 1 hop (nectaron) and still have a lot of complexity... Anyone ever tried this?

Previous dry hop was idaho 7, citra, nectaron & galaxy...

An update... This brew was pretty painful, I had way more attenuation than planned for and ended up with an eggy note that I've never experienced with a beer fermentation (seen it in cider plenty). Loads of variables - perhaps there was still enough residual us-05 from the previous brew to bump up the attenuation, perhaps the extra hop load contributed. Either way this beer was more high maintenance than usual.... However, the aroma and depth of hop flavour is more than I've experienced before. I ended up crashing this beer to the point it was almost like a lager before I dry hopped. Regardless, the aroma and flavour was way more defined. More like a commercial IPA than I have personally brewed before. My setup makes it more difficult to continually drop yeast or hops but if I still had a stainless conical I would definitely give this method another try. The beer I debated tipping down the sink at one point turned out really solid so not much to lose. Hopefully someone else gives it a crack so we have a data sample greater than 1!

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I'll check my notes and let you know

Sorry for the delayed response...

Wp 2:1 citra:nectaron @ 1oz per gallon

DH 2:1:1 citra:nectaron:nelson @ 2oz per gallon... a little over that but close.

This beer turned out really good.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I'll be brewing with superdelic this weekend for the first time, anyone have any suggestions on pairing or if it's good in wp or dh or both?

 

[aaronm13]

I'll be brewing with superdelic this weekend for the first time, anyone have any suggestions on pairing or if it's good in wp or dh or both?

I used it a few months ago with Citra and Nectaron. Rate's were 5oz Superdelic, 6oz Citra, 2oz Nectaron. Beer was excellent. Will brew this combo again but would maybe dial back the Superdelic a bit as it's pretty potent. I used some during fermentation too as it brings out more of a berry character compared to late dry hopping which produces a more tropical fruit profile.

I've just ordered some 24 crop from Yakima Valley so will hopefully have that in the next week or so.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

That's what I ordered, I wanted to see what superdelic brings to the table and I have plenty of nectaron, so maybe I'll go 2:1:1 citra:nectaron:superdelic

 

[Genuine]

Here's my latest....I really enjoying experimenting with this style more than others. I was horribly mistaken what I had left for grains on brew day so I made due with what I had. Wasn't sure what this was going to produce.

40% Thrall Pale Ale Malt
23% Wheat Malt
15% Carapils
12% Vienna
3% Honey Malt

6oz of Mosaic and 2oz of Simcoe in the Whripool, then 8oz of Citra in the dry hop. I've always used Citra in the whirlpool but decided to branch out and I think this is one of my favorites.

Only a couple days in the keg and will pour a proper pint tonight and see how it develops. Fermented with Verdant.

 

[Dgallo]

Here's my latest....I really enjoying experimenting with this style more than others. I was horribly mistaken what I had left for grains on brew day so I made due with what I had. Wasn't sure what this was going to produce.

40% Thrall Pale Ale Malt
23% Wheat Malt
15% Carapils
12% Vienna
3% Honey Malt

6oz of Mosaic and 2oz of Simcoe in the Whripool, then 8oz of Citra in the dry hop. I've always used Citra in the whirlpool but decided to branch out and I think this is one of my favorites.

Only a couple days in the keg and will pour a proper pint tonight and see how it develops. Fermented with Verdant.

Looks nice!

To get a more accurate gravity reading, you should take it pre carbed or after you degass it.

 

[aaronm13]

That's what I ordered, I wanted to see what superdelic brings to the table and I have plenty of nectaron, so maybe I'll go 2:1:1 citra:nectaron:superdelic

That should work alright, will definitely be more Superdelic/Nectaron dominant but at least you'll see what Superdelic brings. Looking forward to see what you think of the crop. Probably won't get a chance to brew with it till before Christmas myself.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

That should work alright, will definitely be more Superdelic/Nectaron dominant but at least you'll see what Superdelic brings. Looking forward to see what you think of the crop. Probably won't get a chance to brew with it till before Christmas myself.

Brewed it today so we'll see, the superdelic has a unique aroma when I opened the bag, I'm excited to see how it turns out, brew day started out rough, I was a but hungover and wasn't quite with it. I did hit my numbers and whatnot so not to worried. Had a beer while whirlpool was finishing up.

 

[ihavenonickname]

@bailey mountain brewer is that a dedicated outdoor brewing space?

 

[BongoYodeler]

@bailey mountain brewer is that a dedicated outdoor brewing space?

I see ceiling ( I think), so I'm assuming it's inside.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Dedicated basement brewing space, though it was so nice outside this past weekend I was wishing I could roll it outside.

 

[ihavenonickname]

Oh my bad I saw the brick and something about the lighting made me think that was outside. I’ve seen some Aussies with outdoor set ups tha make me jealous. But I can’t complain being in a garage.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Before I bought the house the basement was finished, but then it took on water so it was gutted and fixed before I signed, the brick area was a woodstove hearth, I put a woodstove in the living room instead and now the hearth houses my 2 spike cf15s and the glycol chiller. The kettles are 30gal. I still need to finish the ceiling, it was a drop ceiling that also got torn out and it looks like hell so I try to leave it out of any pics haha.

 

[G_robertus]

I'm planning a new batch, this time imperial strength. I was thinking Galaxy, Citra and Sabro but I wasn't sure on the ratios and amounts. Would you increase hopping for stronger brews or keep it the same? I usually do 8 g/l in WP and 14-16 g/l dry. Ratios I was thinking 2:1:1 Galaxy:Citra:Sabro, but also considering 1:1:1.

 

[Dgallo]

I'm planning a new batch, this time imperial strength. I was thinking Galaxy, Citra and Sabro but I wasn't sure on the ratios and amounts. Would you increase hopping for stronger brews or keep it the same? I usually do 8 g/l in WP and 14-16 g/l dry. Ratios I was thinking 2:1:1 Galaxy:Citra:Sabro, but also considering 1:1:1.

Galaxy has not been good at all in previous years so I would keep that low. Citra is great IMHO and should be the heaviest you use. Sabro is ridiculously potent. Probably don’t need more that 15-20% of your total hop bill*for it to be identified

 

[G_robertus]

Galaxy has not been good at all in previous years so I would keep that low. Citra is great IMHO and should be the heaviest you use. Sabro is ridiculously potent. Probably don’t need more that 15-20% of your total grainbill for it to be identified

The Galaxy I have is pretty decent. Not like 2019, but not very bad either but thanks for the heads up! The quality of the Citra and Sabro is much better and I like Sabro a lot personally. I just never used them together. Maybe I'll go 3:2:1 or 2:2:1 C/S/G then.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

So what's the consensus about 2024 Galaxy? Is it worth buying? I buy pretty much all my hops from YVH. Have any of you had good luck with 2024 Galaxy from them?

Ok, so I copped out on the galaxy for this batch, I got nervous using it on a 15 gallon batch. I clearly still have them and I think I'm gonna do a little experiment 5 gallon batch where I'll use the new galaxy hops in the dryhop for that batch. If I plan things properly I'll be brewing that in about 3 weeks. I plan to open them to do a smell test ahead of that so we'll see if they atleast pass that test.

 

[Dgallo]

Found a bottle of my homebrew in the back of my beer fridge that I bottled this past may (was hiding behind some Sam summers lol)

Held up amazingly. Def lighter in aroma than when it was fresh (probably kegged end of April/early may) but kinda stunned with how good it is with this age on it and being transferred from the tap to a bottle. Goes to show proper anti o2 practices and the Tap cooler filler work well

 

[Shenanigans]

Found a bottle of my homebrew in the back of my beer fridge that I bottled this past may (was hiding behind some Sam summers lol)

Held up amazingly. Def lighter in aroma than when it was fresh (probably kegged end of April/early may) but kinda stunned with how good it is with this age on it and being transferred from the tap to a bottle. Goes to show proper anti o2 practices and the Tap cooler filler work well View attachment 860574

Looks great.
Gives me motivation to finally use my Tap cooler filler.
I got the the Kegland version on special offer from AliExpress about a year ago but it's just been gathering dust in my brew cupboard.

 

[jordanfrenzy]

Found a bottle of my homebrew in the back of my beer fridge that I bottled this past may (was hiding behind some Sam summers lol)

Held up amazingly. Def lighter in aroma than when it was fresh (probably kegged end of April/early may) but kinda stunned with how good it is with this age on it and being transferred from the tap to a bottle. Goes to show proper anti o2 practices and the Tap cooler filler work well View attachment 860574

Can't believe the color on that after being bottled. Are you doing ascorbic acid/brewtan or anything like that or just all closed transfer?

 

[Dgallo]

Can't believe the color on that after being bottled. Are you doing ascorbic acid/brewtan or anything like that or just all closed transfer?

No absorbic. I’m unbelievably cautious for anti o2 and follow strict process. Idk if you’ve seen me post in the past but I’ve modified my equipment to be as minimal o2 pick up as possible on the coldside that the only time my beer hits o2 is in the pint glass. Then the tap cooler is an amazing counter presssure filler that allows you to fill from your taps

 

[agentbud]

No absorbic. I’m unbelievably cautious for anti o2 and follow strict process. Idk if you’ve seen me post in the past but I’ve modified my equipment to be as minimal o2 pick up as possible on the coldside that the only time my beer hits o2 is in the pint glass. Then the tap cooler is an amazing counter presssure filler that allows you to fill from your taps

Couldn't agree more. I've really nailed down my o2 processes. Bottled some hazies using a tap cooler and they were still fresh and tasty 3 months later

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Well crap, I've used a blichman beer gun for years, though I rarely bottle, only for comps or to give some away or share with other.. I may have to look into the tapcooler if it is superior.

 

[agentbud]

To be honest, I use the NukaTap version of the counter filler by Kegland but it is basically the same thing as the Tap Cooler

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Right, I get that... I have intertaps on my keezer currently so I'd bee good there.

 

[Dgallo]

Well crap, I've used a blichman beer gun for years, though I rarely bottle, only for comps or to give some away or share with other.. I may have to look into the tapcooler if it is superior.

It might be the same quality wise, but the tap cooler or likeness are just easy to use, clean, and sanitize. It’s also small and easy to store without taking up much space. The only mandatory need is forward sealing taps

 

[wepeeler]

It might be the same quality wise, but the tap cooler or likeness are just easy to use, clean, and sanitize. It’s also small and easy to store without taking up much space. The only mandatory need is forward sealing taps

I've been using the Tapcooler straight from the keg, as I don't have taps, and I still don't have major confidence in my bottling ability. @camonick sent me a 6 month old bottle of his neipa bottled with the Tapcooler, and it held up unbelievably well. Fully carbed and no oxidation.

I don't find it particularly easy to use with the keg adapter. Might have to invest in a tap...

 

[agentbud]

I've been using the Tapcooler straight from the keg, as I don't have taps, and I still don't have major confidence in my bottling ability. @camonick sent me a 6 month old bottle of his neipa bottled with the Tapcooler, and it held up unbelievably well. Fully carbed and no oxidation.

I don't find it particularly easy to use with the keg adapter. Might have to invest in a tap...

thats what I did. mounted a nukatap forward sealing tap to my beer fridge door with a duotight adapter on the back end. so I can plug up any of the kegs to it and then mount the counterpressure filler to the front

 

[aaronm13]

Well crap, I've used a blichman beer gun for years, though I rarely bottle, only for comps or to give some away or share with other.. I may have to look into the tapcooler if it is superior.

It's night and day between the beer gun and Tapcooler, with the latter in a totally different league especially in regard to hazy beers. I had the Tapcooler and loved it but the telescopic arm seized up on me (my own fault). Couldn't justify the price of a new one compared to the Kagland version (about 1/3 of the price over here. The Tapcooler is slightly but not 3x as good and you also get all the accessories with the Kegland version. There is a bit of a learning curve with them to really get the hang of it but once the process clicks it's very easy.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

Tap cooler = added to xmas list.

 

[BongoYodeler]

It's night and day between the beer gun and Tapcooler, with the latter in a totally different league especially in regard to hazy beers. I had the Tapcooler and loved it but the telescopic arm seized up on me (my own fault). Couldn't justify the price of a new one compared to the Kagland version (about 1/3 of the price over here. The Tapcooler is slightly but not 3x as good and you also get all the accessories with the Kegland version. There is a bit of a learning curve with them to really get the hang of it but once the process clicks it's very easy.

You can buy a replacement telescoping arm for less than $10 excluding shipping.

 

[wepeeler]

Tap cooler = added to xmas list.

I just ordered a Nukatap for my keezer lol

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I just ordered a Nukatap for my keezer lol

I tend to get in trouble when I just go buy stuff for myself this time of year, though I usually do anyhow haha... plus im about to break the piggy bank open when I stop at treehouse this weekend. So I'll hold off for now. You'll love that tap though, forward sealing taps have been a game changer for me.

 

[wepeeler]

I tend to get in trouble when I just go buy stuff for myself this time of year, though I usually do anyhow haha... plus im about to break the piggy bank open when I stop at treehouse this weekend. So I'll hold off for now. You'll love that tap though, forward sealing taps have been a game changer for me.

My setup is in the basement. As long as I scoop up the package before the Mrs gets home, I'm golden lol.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

My wife works from home... so she knows. Unless I have it shipped to my work, happens a lotttt.

 

[Shenanigans]

I have the Kegland version with the tap adaptor - haven't used it yet but it fits into the spout of my tap which is just a normal flow control tap.
Is forward sealing needed for the Kegland version and how do I know if it is forward sealing?
Hopefully it doesn't spray all over place when I open the tap.
I might also make a "secret" order of a Nukatap if needed

 

[Mjpetrag]

dumping the first dry hop of my fidens inspires brew, with a mix of 2023/2024 YVH Citra. It smelled amazing, more so than normal. Second dry hop will be 2023 Nelson and 2024 galaxy. I am hoping the second dry hop doesn’t ruin the batch

Also using wyeast 1272 at a 0.5 pitch rate. 1272 is amazing when I tasted pre-dry hop. Creamier and ester profile is much more in line with what I like. It actually reminded me of old school Haze from tree house crossed with fidens

 

[Mjpetrag]

dumping the first dry hop of my fidens inspires brew, with a mix of 2023/2024 YVH Citra. It smelled amazing, more so than normal. Second dry hop will be 2023 Nelson and 2024 galaxy. I am hoping the second dry hop doesn’t ruin the batch

Also using wyeast 1272 at a 0.5 pitch rate. 1272 is amazing when I tasted pre-dry hop. Creamier and ester profile is much more in line with what I like. It actually reminded me of old school Haze from tree house crossed with fidens

Recipe here:

7.5 gal batch, 6.25 gallons into ferm
1.077 OG
33 IBU
4.8 SRM

Mash
12 gal DI water, 7.25 gal mash, 4.75 sparge.
10g CaCl, 2 g NaCl, 2 g CaSO4
6g lactic 88%
5 lb flaked oats
4 lb white wheat
15 lb rahr 2 row

Boil
2 lb pilsen DME
0.5 oz simcoe, servomyces, Whirlfloc at 15
2 drops fermcap

Whirlpool:
5 oz simcoe, 16 ml Citra incognito at 170 F 30 min

Ferm:
Oxygen for 1.5 min
1.25 dropper ALDC
Pitch wyeast 1272 at 0.5 rate 68 F
Allow to rise to 70 on day 2
Walk up 1 deg F per day until 73 F

Day 7: passed forced DA test, crash to 48 F, drop yeast every 6 hours
Day 8: drop yeast, allow to warm to 65 F. Dry hop 1:
4 oz 2024 YVH Citra,
4 oz 2023 YVH Citra
2 oz 2023 YVH Citra lupomax
Leave on dry hops for 24 hours at 65 F, no rousing then dump

Then add dry hop 2:
4 oz 2023 YVH nelson
4 oz 2024 YVH galaxy

Dry hop 24 hours, no rousing, drop and cold crash to 38 F

Continue dropping hops over next 48 hours at 38 F, then package