New homebrew laws in Wisconsin

[novafire]

Discussion on the Madison Homebrewers and Tasters Guild email list does indeed verify that Fitzgerald is working on such an amendment at the behest of the Tavern League of WI.

 

[Grinder12000]

OH - without a doubt I have a slant against Fitzgerald truth be told on that one - the guy is a slimy hypocritical

Of course the WIHBA could be making this all up but maybe not - we shall see.

From WIHBA "At the behest of the Tavern League, Sen. Fitzgerald is going to be introducing an amendment to the effect of the attached. The actual legislation is being drawn up now. We will not see it until tomorrow morning. It should be noted that Ellis just got this and has not had a chance to look at it (neither have I). We are still voting tomorrow."

And part of the email string

I’m having this drafted. Once I have stripes, I’ll share. (I have no idea what that means).

Rob Richard
Office of Senator Scott Fitzgerald
Senate Majority Leader


NOTE - if I am wrong I apologize, just relaying a number of emails I received on this. Wisconsin is pretty pumped up politically on all the scum running our government lately (like for the last 30 years). Only ILL is more crooked! But let's not get political - this is about beer . . not politics!!

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

That should have been your first post.

That language would be very bad IMO. I wish I could stop sending emails about this garbage and it would be over with...

 

[fifelee]

Yes that should have been your first post. Your lack of clarity has created all the disinformation on this thread, so much so I don't really believe anything you say.

But let's not get political - this is about beer . . not politics!!

HAHA funny man. From your first post you made this about politics. What a joke. I am unsubscribing from this thread.

 

[motobrewer]

it is about politics...

this isn't a joke. the amendment is real.

you're more than welcome to go away

 

[Grinder12000]

As reported!!

Good news regarding SB 395 in the Senate! The amendment was killed in caucus and will not be introduced. They are going to try for a voice vote. Please keep up the pressure and contact your Senator if you haven't already."

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

This is a non-political issue with heavy support from both sides of the isle. That was my initial issue with the line this thread was on. Thank you the Grinder for backing up his claims with facts and removing the political undertones.

We should all be thankful for one non-political piece of government or legislates are working on. Goodness knows they have tried to politicize everything else.

 

[Rottnme]

The bill as currently posted here, http://legis.wisconsin.gov/insession/senate/index.htm seems okay as the provisinos for limiting the number of homebrew events is not on it. We will have to wait and see I guess.

 

[Grinder12000]

Did I? I thought I was spiraling out of control there for a bit. :cross:

I try to stay in the middle but sometimes . . . . . . .

 

[Jazman]

This is a non-political issue with heavy support from both sides of the isle. That was my initial issue with the line this thread was on. Thank you the Grinder for backing up his claims with facts and removing the political undertones.

We should all be thankful for one non-political piece of government or legislates are working on. Goodness knows they have tried to politicize everything else.

Let me say Ditto. And, specifically thank you Grinder as well for clarifying the claims and getting back to beer and away from non-associated politics!

Jaz

 

[Rottnme]

We made it through the Senate! We made it through the Senate!

Our voice was heard and the wackbot amendment was removed, the only member that voted nay was the offer of said amendment. ...Next!

 

[Grinder12000]

Not trying to be political but the vote passed 32-1 (which is good)with the only NO vote from our puppet money chaser Sen Fitzpatrick!

 

[phatspade]

What does SB395 even hurt in the big picture for the one "nay" vote? The biggest reason this is being pushed is for the part of transporting beer and legalizing competitions. There's no real big change. I really want to know the reason for that senator to say no.

(I've been an out-of-state resident for 12 yrs so please excuse me for not knowing the jackasses of our state gov't)

 

[Atonk]

Assembly now ... with any luck that greedy ******* Fitzgerald will be booted soon anyway.

 

[Grinder12000]

Sadly I live in his district and the boundaries they made will make it pretty hard.

 

[Jazman]

I have no doubt that the reason for the amendment/nay-vote was due to pressure from the lobbyists for the Tavern League and the Wine and Spirit Institute. He may have been taking the fall for a group to save face with those groups. This is politics and those kind of things do occur.

What I truly don't understand is why THOSE groups are so bent out of shape with this bill. What are they TRULY afraid of? Are homebrewers really that much of a threat to them?

Jaz

What does SB395 even hurt in the big picture for the one "nay" vote? The biggest reason this is being pushed is for the part of transporting beer and legalizing competitions. There's no real big change. I really want to know the reason for that senator to say no.

(I've been an out-of-state resident for 12 yrs so please excuse me for not knowing the jackasses of our state gov't)

 

[Scandalous]

So here we are with the facts. The bill passed the Senate 32-1, which is good. Unfortunately, there are only a very few floor sessions scheduled for the Assembly. Few as in three or so sessions left. There is a real possibility that Lucy is going to pull the football away from us at the last second. THen again, SWMBO thinks I am too pessimistic these days, so yeah! We got it passed the Senate on a 32-1 vote and we have as good a chance as any to pull it off. Given that it is still early I am mentally hoisting my Maß in support.

SPWH President

 

[kevjt]

Where does this stand? They were supposed to hear it last week but called it a day at 12:30 from what I heard. I thought it was going to be heard yesterday but I can't find any info. Any news?

 

[Rottnme]

Good question, they were supposed to get to it yesterday but didn't, I don't know if they got to it today. It sailed through senate and just need to get through the assembly.I don't see where it would be a problem.

 

[kevjt]

Seems weird that it just sorta dropped out of sight on the list of bills in line to be heard. I was counting on it passing the assembly, however I have zero confidence walker will sign it. If any of the big breweries get through to him with a little cash (like miller did) it's gone. Money talks in Madison, right now quite possibly more than we have ever seen.

 

[kevjt]

It passed today and is on it's way to Scooter's desk. So far so good!

 

[Rottnme]

Scooter? ...interesting.

 

[Grinder12000]

Watch it kevjt, the pro corruption people will come down hard on you for those kind of comments.

 

[motobrewer]

Watch it kevjt, the pro corruption people will come down hard on you for those kind of comments.

wa wa wa my name is grinder and I can't leave politics out of this thread wa wa wa

 

[spokaniac]

wa wa wa my name is grinder and I can't leave politics out of this thread wa wa wa

Isn't the thread about politics?

 

[motobrewer]

it's about a specific piece of regulation regarding homebrewing. it's not about about debating the governor situation in Wisconsin.

 

[spokaniac]

Sorry, not trying to argue, but any law/regulation is written and put into effect by politicians, most often for political purposes.

 

[Zamial]

The intention of this thread was to raise awareness and support to get an unfair law changed and to track it's progress. Grinder1200 already started his own thread on this nearly identical subject AFTER this one was created. If you want to discuss anything other than this law, discuss political agendas or make jabs at someone's beliefs please feel free to do it in that thread.

I (and I assume others) have been following this thread and the next thing I want to read about is WHEN the bill is scheduled to be signed and when it is or is not by our governor. I will also accept cheers and good will for getting the law to this point.

Hoorah! For getting through to the governors desk! Thanks to all that contacted their reps!!!

 

[david_42]

For some reason the Wisconsin Department of Revenue reinterpreted existing law making homebrew transportation and competitions illegal.

Oregon did the same thing two years ago. Took a fair amount of effort to close the loopholes so the prohibitionists couldn't cause trouble.

 

[Qhrumphf]

I'd been following this in an out over the past few weeks, and just now found out that it passed. I knew it was coming down to the wire, but glad to hear it made it through.

Cheers to all the WI brewers!