New Guiness

[Huskysibe]

Pasturization ruins Guiness IMHO. The Rogue Oatmeal Stout was pretty tasty though. Maybe I need to grab a sixer of the FES and see what its all about.

 

[jfowler1]

All the Guinness for North America is produced in the brewery in Dublin. Maybe that wasn't always the case or maybe they have a different recipe for the US like someone else said (and maybe my palate sucks) but the Guinness I had in Dublin this summer didn't taste all that different to me.

I agree 100%.

My wife and I spent about 2 weeks in Irland last spring, and drank my way from Dublin, down to Cork, and all the way up to Donegal. We had our share of Guinness, Murphy's, and Beamish (Murphy's became my favorite if anyone is keeping score).

This is a tough sell, but IMO, the Guiness Draught in Ireland was the exact same beer we drink in North America. The only difference is the obvious freshness of the beer and the way it is handled at the pub. The other big difference is the environment you are enjoying the beer in. Sipping a fresh Guinness in a little pub in Galway is just not the same as ordering a Guinness at TGI Fridays and having it served to you in a Bud Light shaker glass. I think the environment is a big part of the reason that many people say the beer is TOTALLY different in Ireland.

As far as the Foreign Extra Stout (yellow labeled bottles) that recently became available here - I think they released those 4-packs some time last year- that is the same FES you could find at a few select places in Ireland when I was over there. In fact, I only saw/bought it once, and flipped out because at the time it was not available in the states. I even smuggled a couple bottles home in my luggage to share with a friend. I drank FES in Ireland, and drank the FES released in the US - same beer. Similarly, I drank the draught product in Ireland and in the states - again; same beer.

 

[ChillWill]

I thought the guinness for north America generally came from Canada?

 

[Zixxer10R]

I agree 100%.

My wife and I spent about 2 weeks in Irland last spring, and drank my way from Dublin, down to Cork, and all the way up to Donegal. We had our share of Guinness, Murphy's, and Beamish (Murphy's became my favorite if anyone is keeping score).

This is a tough sell, but IMO, the Guiness Draught in Ireland was the exact same beer we drink in North America. The only difference is the obvious freshness of the beer and the way it is handled at the pub. The other big difference is the environment you are enjoying the beer in. Sipping a fresh Guinness in a little pub in Galway is just not the same as ordering a Guinness at TGI Fridays and having it served to you in a Bud Light shaker glass. I think the environment is a big part of the reason that many people say the beer is TOTALLY different in Ireland.

As far as the Foreign Extra Stout (yellow labeled bottles) that recently became available here - I think they released those 4-packs some time last year- that is the same FES you could find at a few select places in Ireland when I was over there. In fact, I only saw/bought it once, and flipped out because at the time it was not available in the states. I even smuggled a couple bottles home in my luggage to share with a friend. I drank FES in Ireland, and drank the FES released in the US - same beer. Similarly, I drank the draught product in Ireland and in the states - again; same beer.

Most County Cork-sters would tend to agree with your assertion jfowler.

 

[cheezydemon3]

If Guinness FES is the best stout you have had, you need to get out more.

Schlafly's E S blows it out of the water, not even close. Yeti and a whole slew of others come to mind also.

As for a Guinness Lager, I won't go out of my way to try it, but I'd read a review.

 

[Revvy]

I don't think anyone said FES was the best stout out there, just that it was delicious.

What I can't believe is how many supposed beer geeks, for whatever reasons (usually just because it's made by "x" brewery) are so close minded that they "would even try it."

Me I'm excited when there's a new beer out there, whether it's from a craft brewery or a big brewery. Hell, even if I end up not liking it, I won't know it unless I try it.

I even ended up surprisingly liking Bud American Ale when it came out. I didn't expect to, but it took me by surprise.

I would like to say that I had tried every beer on the planet, at least once in my lifetime. Regardless of who made it, and whether or not I even liked it, which would probably account for a large percentage of the beer. But at least I tried.

How can folks claim to love beer, be so narrow minded, not to even want to try something at least once?

 

[slowbie]

If Guinness FES is the best stout you have had, you need to get out more.

Schlafly's E S blows it out of the water, not even close. Yeti and a whole slew of others come to mind also.

As for a Guinness Lager, I won't go out of my way to try it, but I'd read a review.

If you're going to discount someone's choice of Guinness FES and the first stout that comes to mind is Schlafly's, you need to get out more. Firestone Walker Parabola blows it out of the water. Founders IS and a whole slew of others come to mind also.

And if you're going to pull the snob card, you need to realize that there are likely to be people who can outsnob you.

 

[hyperslug]

I can't remember the Irish stars name who said on Leno, that Guiness is crap. Kind of like us saying BMC is crap. But what is real funny is to see people arguing which is better of the BMC bunch.

 

[FlatcapBrew]

I thought the guinness for north America generally came from Canada?

Guinness draught is made in ireland and exported to the states, Im not sure about the FES but some of the bottled guinness is made in canada


(i hope my info is correct cuz Im to lazy to google it right now but I think that is somewhat right)

 

[cheezydemon3]

If you're going to discount someone's choice of Guinness FES and the first stout that comes to mind is Schlafly's, you need to get out more. Firestone Walker Parabola blows it out of the water. Founders IS and a whole slew of others come to mind also.

And if you're going to pull the snob card, you need to realize that there are likely to be people who can outsnob you.

There's slowbie again!

I said a slew of others, and I would put Schlafly's EXTRA against any of yours.

Nice snobbery though!

Good try.

 

[cheezydemon3]

I don't think anyone said FES was the best stout out there, just that it was delicious.

FES is honestly my favorite stout, by far.

Just sayin.....

 

[Airborneguy]

100%

AND... Guinness Draught is my favorite dry stout also. Personally, I could give a rat's a$$ what anyone thinks about that too

My favorite Oatmeal Stout was from a brewpub though.

 

[cheezydemon3]

100%

AND... Guinness Draught is my favorite dry stout also. Personally, I could give a rat's a$$ what anyone thinks about that too

My favorite Oatmeal Stout was from a brewpub though.

It is possible, however unlikely, that your 2 favorite stouts both happen to be by guinness......but just statistically speaking, what are the odds????


I am glad to hear that you have at least tried other stouts.

And yes, you are entitled to think what you want.

Next St Patty's day, try a schlafly extra stout (they only brew it around then ) and if there is any way possible, it is on me!

 

[Airborneguy]

If I survive the hurricane, I'll go buy 20 different stouts, I promise!

 

[uncommonsense]

If I survive the hurricane, I'll go buy 20 different stouts, I promise!

Good luck. Here in podunk Illinois we don't have hurricanes or 20 different stouts.

 

[cheezydemon3]

Good luck. Here in podunk Illinois we do have hurricanes or 20 different stouts.

Well which is it?

Is it the abundance of stout or the constant hurricanes that resulted in your uncommon sense?

 

[biochemedic]

It does sounds like a schwarzbier to me. I'll give it a try, Guinness has always been a backup beer for me. And Guinness Foreign Export Stout is damn tasty.

+1...and there's just something about that little bit of sour mash that makes Guinness special...

 

[uncommonsense]

Well which is it?

Is it the abundance of stout or the constant hurricanes that resulted in your uncommon sense?

I hate my phone. The keyboard is kinda fecked

 

[xeerohour]

Even though Revvy pretty much substantiated my opinion with his post, i will say that i HAVE had fresh Guiness from both their store room and all around Ireland in different places. Well, almost. If you ask for a Guiness in Cork you'll be thrown out of the bar, Murphy's is king in southern Ireland.

Yeah, that's not true. I lived in Cork for six months, and while there were some bars that were murphys only, there were a lot more that sold a ton of Guinness. That's where I developed my love of it. Such great stuff on draft over there.

 

[cheezydemon3]

I hate my phone. The keyboard is kinda fecked

lol,

 

[rexbanner]

Guinness Draught is the reason you won't find too many craft examples of regular dry stout. They can't compete, and its not worth trying.

6 lbs LME 1 lb roasted barley will kick the **** out of Guinness. I wish someone would try, I love dry stout.

I do like Guinness, though.

 

[cheezydemon3]

6 lbs LME 1 lb roasted barley will kick the **** out of Guinness. I wish someone would try, I love dry stout.

I do like Guinness, though.

I did 6 lbs pald dme
1 lb roasted,
1lb black patent

and I was disapointed because it was Guinness. My friends said it was way better than guinness, but I was disapointed.

 

[rexbanner]

I did 6 lbs pald dme
1 lb roasted,
1lb black patent

and I was disapointed because it was Guinness. My friends said it was way better than guinness, but I was disapointed.

Really? Mine was much roastier and better tasting, and yours must have been even roastier. I think I'll go brew another, although I can't decide to go AG or extract for easiness.

 

[Beezy]

It's not quite that simple. There is a bit of sour to Guinness.

 

[BradleyBrew]

Have you ever tried Guiness in Ireland or Europe? Its pretty fantastic. The crap we get over here is nothing like what they are drinking.

I just dont buy that "urban beer legend" the Guiness passes all their "bad" beer to the states which I'm guessing is their biggest market. I've had Guinness in 4 different continents (along with all the other beer I could try of course) and its all the same.

 

[Huskysibe]

I just dont buy that "urban beer legend" the Guiness passes all their "bad" beer to the states which I'm guessing is their biggest market. I've had Guinness in 4 different continents (along with all the other beer I could try of course) and its all the same.

I never said they pass all their bad beer to the states. My point being was that Guiness in Europe doesnt have any preservatives and isnt pastuerized, to me, it tastes different. Maybe it all tastes the same to everyone else, but what I had tasted very fresh and very different than what I have had in the states. That was my only point.

 

[Airborneguy]

It's been awhile (bout '01), but the stuff I had in Europe seemed the same to me too.

 

[Beezy]

I never said they pass all their bad beer to the states. My point being was that Guiness in Europe doesnt have any preservatives and isnt pastuerized, to me, it tastes different. Maybe it all tastes the same to everyone else, but what I had tasted very fresh and very different than what I have had in the states. That was my only point.

Guinness is pasteurized everywhere.

 

[Huskysibe]

Guinness is pasteurized everywhere.

Well, I guess the guy at the pub in England lied to me then. He claimed none of their beers are pastuerized due to a purity law

 

[rycov]

i don't think ireland ever had a purity law (maybe, but i never heard of it). germany used to, but i think that was kind of a old thing