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For those saying that their getting extreme behavior or odd esters out of a yeast, it'd be very helpful to us all if you describe what temps you're fermenting at and how you control temps.
 
Yes, this yeast can be slow to start but once it does it finish's fast and clean. I used a fresh pack pitched dry into a 1.040 pale ale and it was going with in 12 hour's. I then collected the trub after racking, cleaned it a bit and stuck it in a jar in the fridge for 3 day's. on my next brew day I took it out of fridge in morning (9am)and let sit at room temp 74 F until I pitched at 1pm. fermentation was going in 6 hour's and it was finished in a little over 24 hour's at 67F. I like this yeast a lot and will be using it in a black IPA next week.
 
I did batch with M 21 belgian wit yeast from mangrove jack. Split half to compare with wyeast's belgian wit yeast, which I use a lot.

Both fermentered at 69 to 73F. No starters. But rehydated the M21 per instructions. 50% raw unmalted wheat berries that I pre-cooked, 48% two row, 2% crystal, and old cascade and saaz hops to taste in the boil kettle at 60, 30, and flame out. Very few hops, maybe a couple, three, ounces total for a 14 gallon batch. 1.044 OG.

All and all, out of the fermenters, the M 21 is drier than wyeast. More subtle flavor, but on point for a daily drinker wit. Been drinking a few blue moons here and there this yeast is close to that flavor, but drier, and a bit more belgain flavor. I would say better than a blue moon, but similar. Probably with carapils/dextrine malt you could clone an (improved) blue moon well.

Interestingly, it was drier tasting than the wyeast but had a higher final gravity than the wyeast.

The wyeast I would have liked a touch more hop bitterness, may add some isomerized bitterness to the fermenter. But the M21 is right as to hop profile.

Force carbonating now and give a final thought, but I'll buy this for a crowd pleasing, easy drinking beer. Might be a perfect yeast to introduce newbies to belgian style beers. My girlfriend likes dry beers but is ok with the flavor of Belgians if not sweet and not overpowering.
 
Just an update on the above post. Been drinking the M21 and the Wyeast on tap and took them to a large tasting/competition. Both were very popular. About evenly so. I did add some isomerized hop extract to the wyeast. The M21 has a more saison like taste, less blue moon-ish as it carbonated and matured, but it's very mild. I would drink either all day on a hot day, or a cold day, or a warm day... lol.
 
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