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Ok, I had to post this. The results from following this thread are too good not to post.

I bought two 1 gallon jars from Target and whipped up six cups of Kokuho Rose (California) sushi rice. I steamed the whole batch using a large pot and a metal basket steamer and split the steamed rice yield between the two 1 gallon jars which filled them to 3/4 full. Jacksonville has several Asian markets so finding dried yeast balls was no issue whatsoever. I crushed up three of them to powder gently using a rolling pin inside of a ziplock sandwich bag and pitched them evenly on the rice directly (no flour added as in some online articles). I mixed the rice by hand but I think I pitched on the rice while it was a little too warm and had to switch to a spoon because of the steam heat burning my hands. I covered each lid with saran wrap and gave the metal lids just enough of a half turn to attach them to the top of their jars. I placed each jar in a plastic tub in case of a blow off and set them in a dark cabinet to rest for the week.

I've checked the jars during this first week and noticed a slow colonization by a filmy white fungus (according to this thread, a great thing) and a slow accumulation of liquid in each jar. The liquification still continues but tonight, at one week and after a few beers, the curiosity got the better of me and I poured off about 2 ounces of liquid from each jar. I didn't squeeze the rice and there is plenty of liquid remaining in the bottom of each jar. I just wanted a sample and i'm happy to let the fermentation continue. I poured the wine from each jar into a crystal clear tumbler (2 ounces from each jar) and the re-sealed the rice under saran wrap and 1/2 turned on lids and put them back in the cabinet.

The liquid in the glass was a rich, opaque white color. A mixture of rice solids and alcoholic rice wine. I held the tumbler to my nose and immediately was hit with a massive scent of beautiful tropical flavors. Citrus, mango, plum, peach and star fruit intensely marched across my nose. This, of course, got me very excited. I gave the pourings a tentative first sip and was immediately bowled over. All of those tropical scents translated perfectly in a smooth, easy drinking delicious glass of rice wine with the right balance of slight acidity, tropical fruit flavors and semi-sweetness mixed with undetectable, but potent, alcohol.

All I have to say is: Wow. WAAAAW. Holy $hit, SonOfGrok.... I owe you for this thread big time. Yeah, we can make a superior, delicious rice wine at home that doesn't taste like green bottle Gekkikan dirt water. No wonder your rice wines don't last long once you ferment up your batches.

I predict my new rice steamer is about to get a serious workout.
 
I have been using that same rice. It's the Balls, shorter grain = shorter carb chains.

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I have been using that same rice. It's the Balls, shorter grain = shorter carb chains.

It's producing some awesome results. I can't wait to try the wine again at two weeks and see how it's evolving. I made a rookie mistake with the red rice and wound up purchasing Thai red cargo rice instead of RYR but i'm sure the family will eat it up.

I do have some questions about pasteurization for everyone:

1) Is it better to bring the bottle(s) of rice wine to 160f from room temperature, or just add them to the pot of water once it reaches that temperature?

2) Does pasteurization affect the flavor/taste?
 
I am going to harvest this weekend (maybe tomorrow if I got hot and bothered enough) and will probably bottle in a grolsch bottle and put in the fridge. So far it smells awesome and looks... well it looks a little alien, but thats cool.

If I like it as much as I think I will I am going to cook up all of my rice, put it in my pickle crock with the yeast balls I have coming and go for broke.
 
aiptasia said:
It's producing some awesome results. I can't wait to try the wine again at two weeks and see how it's evolving. I made a rookie mistake with the red rice and wound up purchasing Thai red cargo rice instead of RYR but i'm sure the family will eat it up.

I do have some questions about pasteurization for everyone:

1) Is it better to bring the bottle(s) of rice wine to 160f from room temperature, or just add them to the pot of water once it reaches that temperature?

2) Does pasteurization affect the flavor/taste?

1) I use the method in the stove top pasteurization sticky in the cider forum. Bring water to 190, add bottles, cover and turn off heat, wait atleast 10 minutes and remove bottles.

2) I haven't noticed a difference in flavor between pasteurized and non-pasteurized.
 
I have seen a few people adding extra fermentable sugar to these batches and I am wondering if how this compares to non sugar added batches. I am also thinking about doing a couple experiments. One with maltose syrup, one with honey, one with brown sugar, table sugar, and plain for a comparison. Thoughts or ideas?
 
CreamyGoodness said:
What is the benefit of pasteurization?

It kills the yeast and prevents continued fermentation. So you can keep it around longer without it changing, carbonating, or exploding what you bottle it in. The yeast in these balls tends to keep working even at refrigeration temps.
 
I've had my 2 bottles in the fridge for almost 2 weeks now. I'm taking a small glass about every other day. One of the bottles gives a faint "pop" when I open it (Grolsch Bottle) sometimes but it isn't building up any appreciable pressure. I don't imagine a bottle lasting more than 2-3 weeks around my house so I don't pasteurize. I have noticed the taste has mellowed (for the better) a little even in this short time.
If I were to try to keep some around longer I probably would stove top pasteurize though.
 
So youd suggest I bottle friday after 3 weeks, pasteurize and chill, and then give a shake before serving cold sake?

The only reason i'll be pasteurizing mine will be to:

A) Stop the fermentation process and,
B) Give a few small bottles to friends.

I'd prefer it if the bottles for friends were a little more shelf stable and not on their way to vinegar by the time they get around to trying it out.
 
1) I use the method in the stove top pasteurization sticky in the cider forum. Bring water to 190, add bottles, cover and turn off heat, wait atleast 10 minutes and remove bottles.

2) I haven't noticed a difference in flavor between pasteurized and non-pasteurized.

Ty for this. :)
 
But do you think doing so would make it less likely for me to have "rice champagne" (which doesnt sound all that nice to be honest) and give me a more even product?
 
I have seen a few people adding extra fermentable sugar to these batches and I am wondering if how this compares to non sugar added batches. I am also thinking about doing a couple experiments. One with maltose syrup, one with honey, one with brown sugar, table sugar, and plain for a comparison. Thoughts or ideas?
Be careful with the amount of syrup you use with the the brown sugar. It's a strong flavor to introduce into something that is fairly subtle to begin with.

1) I use the method in the stove top pasteurization sticky in the cider forum. Bring water to 190, add bottles, cover and turn off heat, wait atleast 10 minutes and remove bottles.

2) I haven't noticed a difference in flavor between pasteurized and non-pasteurized.
Interesting, I basically process the same way as water bath canning. Stick the bottles in the pot on a cooling rack or something to keep them off the bottom. Add water until it covers the level of liquid in the bottles for corked bottles, or the whole bottles by a 1/2" for crown bottles. Then heat to 160f, maintain that for 10 minutes. Remove from water and place on a towel on the counter until cooled.

For corked bottles I put aluminum foil "hats" on the bottles since you can't cork them until they are cool. Once the liquid had dropped back to the shoulder of the bottle, they are cool enough to cork. Assuming you didn't overfill them in the first place.

I have found that pasteurization causes the wine to separate more quickly, but does not effect flavor.

So youd suggest I bottle friday after 3 weeks, pasteurize and chill, and then give a shake before serving cold sake?
Depends on personal taste I think. I like mine best at cellar temps, around 50f. I find if it's been chilled in my fridge it doesn't have much of an aroma until it's warmed a bit.

But do you think doing so would make it less likely for me to have "rice champagne" (which doesnt sound all that nice to be honest) and give me a more even product?
Well, yeah. Pasteurization kills the yeast. No live yeast in the bottle means you won't have any co2 production. Of course, since you can't cork a bottle until after it's been pasteurized there is an extremely small chance you will get wild yeast in the bottle which will carbonate it anyway. That isn't a problem with crown caps of course. That kind of infection is so incredibly unlikely though...
 
Ok so here's what I got after 3 days. Seems like a lot of liquid in a short amount of time compared to other posts in this thread. If this fairly normal? I made it Tuesday night, went camping for a couple nights and came home to this. There was a faint smell in my kitchen that I rather liked.





Look OK? Thanks.
 
Ok so here's what I got after 3 days. Seems like a lot of liquid in a short amount of time compared to other posts in this thread. If this fairly normal? I made it Tuesday night, went camping for a couple nights and came home to this. There was a faint smell in my kitchen that I rather liked.

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Look OK? Thanks.

That is fairly quick, warm at home? Short grain rice?
 
We set the air on about 75 when we left. The rice is "Thai Jasmine sweet rice."

Should I taste to see if it's vinegary?
It won't be, not enough time. Though tasting is always a good idea. :mug:

What was your ratio of rice yeast balls to rice? And, how big are your balls?
 
Size matters? ;)
That's what she... Oh nevermind. :D

If you don't know the actual proportion to rice yeast ball mass to dry rice mass you don't actually have any useful information. Just stating the number of rice yeast balls to dry rice doesn't mean much. Different brands use different sized rice yeast balls.
 
That's what she... Oh nevermind. :D

If you don't know the actual proportion to rice yeast ball mass to dry rice mass you don't actually have any useful information. Just stating the number of rice yeast balls to dry rice doesn't mean much. Different brands use different sized rice yeast balls.

I'll get back to this when I can get to my scale. We just moved and the box it's in is in the bedroom where SWMBO is sleeping and has to be up at 6 for work. They are one inch diameter I know that. 2 cups dry rice and probably 1.75 balls. There are two balls in a package and i used almost all of one package.

I'll weigh my balls tomorrow and report back. :D
 
I processed yesterday. Its delicious! Im really pleased.

The wife was suspicious because of the rice glop, but when I finally convinced her to try it she was shocked how much like our favorite sake it tasted.

thanks sonofgrok.
 
Ok so here's what I got after 3 days. Seems like a lot of liquid in a short amount of time compared to other posts in this thread. If this fairly normal? I made it Tuesday night, went camping for a couple nights and came home to this. There was a faint smell in my kitchen that I rather liked.

Look OK? Thanks.

Looks really good. Lets hope it tastes that way too!
 
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