bearsonacid1
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Definitely no butter. Definitely not worth the premium tier pricing for it though unless the beer gets better.
Omg, no one cares.Posted elsewhere:
I started blending beers on my own a few years ago when a beer I knew well was tasting off. The experiment was successful, and I continued to blend any time we had a beer on draft at Lord Hobo that was off. I started blending 3 beers together shortly thereafter and generally liked the results. I've grown weary with some of my favorite beers being super inconsistent. The goal of us blending at LHBCo, is for Boomsauce to one day (soon) become an extremely consistent product. The 3 components of BS, Steal This Can, Ball & Biscuit, and Consolation Prize, will always need tweaking. As you know there are a lot a variables that lead to a particular batch of beer being not exactly the same as the last. That is one of the great fun challenges of brewing, but it can also be damaging to a brand. I've seen lots of first timers try a well respected beer, but to get it in less than optimal condition (be it from a problem at the brewery, exposure to heat, dirty lines, dirty glassware etc...), and then to expectthat flavor the next time, or worse, to be surprised or disappointed when they drink the beer as the brewer intended it to taste. For me, by blending our 3 beers into one, I can attempt to mediate the variance from batch to batch of the 3 component beers. Of course we will try our best to achieve predictable and consistent results with the 3 beers, but in the event that one of the 3 is off a touch, I can alter the blend ratio attempting to replicate the desired finished product. So I get to have fun tasting and blending and tweaking the ratios to get a more dynamic beer, and I get to deliver a product to the consumer that they can count on for consistency.
It does pose challenges. The 3 components take 24ish, 18ish, and 15ish days respectively. We have to dial in our brew schedule to accommodate different dry hopping schedules, finishing/carbing the beer and blending it bright. There are a lot of tank transfers and other blending challenges. Hell, it may be a dumb idea. But, with 6 months of pilot batches, endless blending, and a team up for this unique challenge, I am confident that we can put out a blended beer that is truly great.
Starting with a 40 BBL system and only 80 BBL FV's is obviously a risk. Going from 10 gallon batches to 1200 gallon batches (twice), presents a huge and expensive challenge. We don't want (and can not afford) to dump 160 kegs of beer. There was a lot of pressure on our brewers to nail the first batches. We brewed Consolation Prize first. That yeast strain is notoriously slow one Generation 1, and much to our dismay, it stalled. We did everything we could to revive it, but in the end we dumped it. 2000+ gallons of big beer. By the time it stalled, we had already double-brewed Ball & Biscuit, so we made the decision to proceed with Steal This Can. We Love those 2 beers and felt confident they would finish where we wanted them. So we opened our doors with no Boomsauce. We brewed Consolation Prize again, as well as the other 2 others. All 3 are super healthy and tasting great. We made the tweaks we thought necessary to all 3 the 2nd time around, and are currently amped up as we look forward to blending on Monday for our first Boomsauce release on Wednesday.
It will be a work in progress as we learn the nuances of our Brewhouse. The individual components will take time to dial in, and the blend will also. Once Boomsauce is exactly where I want it to be, I will let you know.
As far as the Brewery itself, we are open 7 days a week. Mon- Thur 4-9, Fri 4-10, Sat 12-10, Sun 12-6. We have growler fills, cans, and free samples Mon - Thur. Fri/Sat/Sun, we offer 5 oz tasters and 16 oz pours, for sale. This is specific to Woburn. We have located a License to Pour and will go through the License transfer process in September which will hopefully result in us having a 7 days a week pouring license. The 'tasting room' is a work in progress. We will expand the room to double it's size, and then install the appropriate tables and chairs fit for a proper Beer Hall. Until then we are sourcing some barrels so you have a place to stand around and rest your glass.
For now we have Steal This Can, and Ball & Biscuit, available. New batches of those, as well as Consolation Prize and Boomsauce on Wednesday.
We will also be brewing a session beer, as well as Glorious. Both will be first batches on our system.
Boomsauce will only be available at the Brewery, and at Lord Hobo, through July 4th weekend. Then you will see it in stores and on draft hopefully.
You have every right to judge us based on the 2 oz cups you had at ACBF, or on the first ever batches of beer to run through our brewhouse this past week. But we are not consumed with a few weeks of results. We are here for the long haul.
It may not work, but I would not bet against us.
Cheers
Daniel
So batch two of ball and biscuit and steal this can next Wednesday or yesterday?Posted elsewhere:
I started blending beers on my own a few years ago when a beer I knew well was tasting off. The experiment was successful, and I continued to blend any time we had a beer on draft at Lord Hobo that was off. I started blending 3 beers together shortly thereafter and generally liked the results. I've grown weary with some of my favorite beers being super inconsistent. The goal of us blending at LHBCo, is for Boomsauce to one day (soon) become an extremely consistent product. The 3 components of BS, Steal This Can, Ball & Biscuit, and Consolation Prize, will always need tweaking. As you know there are a lot a variables that lead to a particular batch of beer being not exactly the same as the last. That is one of the great fun challenges of brewing, but it can also be damaging to a brand. I've seen lots of first timers try a well respected beer, but to get it in less than optimal condition (be it from a problem at the brewery, exposure to heat, dirty lines, dirty glassware etc...), and then to expectthat flavor the next time, or worse, to be surprised or disappointed when they drink the beer as the brewer intended it to taste. For me, by blending our 3 beers into one, I can attempt to mediate the variance from batch to batch of the 3 component beers. Of course we will try our best to achieve predictable and consistent results with the 3 beers, but in the event that one of the 3 is off a touch, I can alter the blend ratio attempting to replicate the desired finished product. So I get to have fun tasting and blending and tweaking the ratios to get a more dynamic beer, and I get to deliver a product to the consumer that they can count on for consistency.
It does pose challenges. The 3 components take 24ish, 18ish, and 15ish days respectively. We have to dial in our brew schedule to accommodate different dry hopping schedules, finishing/carbing the beer and blending it bright. There are a lot of tank transfers and other blending challenges. Hell, it may be a dumb idea. But, with 6 months of pilot batches, endless blending, and a team up for this unique challenge, I am confident that we can put out a blended beer that is truly great.
Starting with a 40 BBL system and only 80 BBL FV's is obviously a risk. Going from 10 gallon batches to 1200 gallon batches (twice), presents a huge and expensive challenge. We don't want (and can not afford) to dump 160 kegs of beer. There was a lot of pressure on our brewers to nail the first batches. We brewed Consolation Prize first. That yeast strain is notoriously slow one Generation 1, and much to our dismay, it stalled. We did everything we could to revive it, but in the end we dumped it. 2000+ gallons of big beer. By the time it stalled, we had already double-brewed Ball & Biscuit, so we made the decision to proceed with Steal This Can. We Love those 2 beers and felt confident they would finish where we wanted them. So we opened our doors with no Boomsauce. We brewed Consolation Prize again, as well as the other 2 others. All 3 are super healthy and tasting great. We made the tweaks we thought necessary to all 3 the 2nd time around, and are currently amped up as we look forward to blending on Monday for our first Boomsauce release on Wednesday.
It will be a work in progress as we learn the nuances of our Brewhouse. The individual components will take time to dial in, and the blend will also. Once Boomsauce is exactly where I want it to be, I will let you know.
As far as the Brewery itself, we are open 7 days a week. Mon- Thur 4-9, Fri 4-10, Sat 12-10, Sun 12-6. We have growler fills, cans, and free samples Mon - Thur. Fri/Sat/Sun, we offer 5 oz tasters and 16 oz pours, for sale. This is specific to Woburn. We have located a License to Pour and will go through the License transfer process in September which will hopefully result in us having a 7 days a week pouring license. The 'tasting room' is a work in progress. We will expand the room to double it's size, and then install the appropriate tables and chairs fit for a proper Beer Hall. Until then we are sourcing some barrels so you have a place to stand around and rest your glass.
For now we have Steal This Can, and Ball & Biscuit, available. New batches of those, as well as Consolation Prize and Boomsauce on Wednesday.
We will also be brewing a session beer, as well as Glorious. Both will be first batches on our system.
Boomsauce will only be available at the Brewery, and at Lord Hobo, through July 4th weekend. Then you will see it in stores and on draft hopefully.
You have every right to judge us based on the 2 oz cups you had at ACBF, or on the first ever batches of beer to run through our brewhouse this past week. But we are not consumed with a few weeks of results. We are here for the long haul.
It may not work, but I would not bet against us.
Cheers
Daniel
So batch two of ball and biscuit and steal this can next Wednesday or yesterday?
Omg, no one cares.
Nope doesn't make any sense to me. And also how would one blend 2 beers at a bar together to make one taste the way it is supposed to? This Flower Power is a little off let me add some Congress Street to fix it...Does anyone understand how if one of the beers are off, blending more of a different beer will magically keep it consistent?
Does anyone understand how if one of the beers are off, blending more of a different beer will magically keep it consistent?
Based on the first two beers, hoppiness won't be a problem. But if one beer is supposed to be fruity/sweet and the other more floral/dry how can you make up for the loss of other flavors like that. And the alcohol may vary slightly as well. If they have different amounts of dry hopping or using unique hops with each beer I don't understand where a completely different IPA is supposed to make up for that.The impact of slight variations of each is minimized by being only 1/4 of the total. If it's got diacetyl or something people taste at very trace amounts, you'll probably still notice. But if, for example, one of the base beers is 88% as hoppy as usual for some reason, that would normally be pretty noticeable in the final flavor. Blended with the others, though, the final beer is only 4% less hoppy (assuming the others are close to on point). It's a way to smooth out variance.
Based on the first two beers, hoppiness won't be a problem. But if one beer is supposed to be fruity/sweet and the other more floral/dry how can you make up for the loss of other flavors like that. And the alcohol may vary slightly as well. If they have different amounts of dry hopping or using unique hops with each beer I don't understand where a completely different IPA is supposed to make up for that.
This whole idea is so stupid to me. Why not focus on making one amazing beer then 3 mediocre beers you think you can blend into magic.
They aren't as bad as you have heard.If the beers are as bad as I have heard then how are people to believe he can blend them into a great beer? Jesus it isn't hard to make a passable hoppy beer.
If the beers are as bad as I have heard then how are people to believe he can blend them into a great beer? Jesus it isn't hard to make a passable hoppy beer.
The butthurt is strong in here. The beers aren't that bad, and I'm sure they're going to continue to work out the kinks.
Everyone is ready to **** all over this guy, lay off the ****in' Haterade
kicked out of LH as in banned? what did you do?Haven't tried his beers yet, I am still kicked out of LH and haven't gone by the brewery yet. I'll give his stuff a chance, though blending IPAs doesn't seem right to me as a way to make a great beer. Maybe he will manage to do it, but 15 years of home brewing and most being hoppy things has never made me think to blend IPAs when I can just brew a good one.
Myself and a previous manager don't see eye to eye and after a disagreement at another establishment he found a reason to ban me next time I was there.kicked out of LH as in banned? what did you do?
That's all we get?Myself and a previous manager don't see eye to eye and after a disagreement at another establishment he found a reason to ban me next time I was there.
EditedThat's all we get?
Lanigan has a particular reputation in the industry,
Beer is super srs business guise
Man you seem to be the one who is butt hurt if anyone has anything bad to say about LHBC.
I don't know why you are defending a guy who shits on anything that isn't sour, hoppy, or Bink.I had a feeling someone was going to say that. **** me for trying to be positive right?
And actually no not really, I'm simply tired of the negativity surrounding beer, especially coming from people who are fans of beer and fellow people in the industry. This is supposed to be a fun and healthy community, but instead it turns into a pissing contest between brewers.
So go ahead **** all over what I have to say and continue to piss and moan about everything, you'll fit right in!
I don't know why you are defending a guy who shits on anything that isn't sour, hoppy, or Bink.
I think the beers are just OK so far but nothing I would go out of my way for or spend that kind of money on.
I have zero respect for the owner. I think he is a major ******; I don't understand where all the leghumpers come from saying he is a stand up guy. Maybe they haven't heard the stories I've heard, but this about beer and not someone's personal life so I'll just leave it at that and not start a soap opera drama on a message board.
I think you just picked the wrong brewery to start spreading your positivity for. It's like if you wanted to fix the negativity towards rich people and started defending Donald Trump.For Christs sake, just because I would drink their beers more than once and am trying to be positive about the collective beer industry, be it brewer to brewer or simply not just complaining about every ****ing thing makes it seem like I want to jerk the guy off. I shouldn't have said anything in the first place and just kept my mouth shut.
The negativity and general attitude in the corners of craft beer ****ing blows.
The negativity and general attitude in the corners of craft beer ****ing blows.
Duly noted everyone. Carry on!
Baseball statistics are NOT to be played with. (no sarcasm)As someone who has also spent time on various band and baseball forums, I can tell you this is not confined to beer. If you approach anything with unbridled enthusiasm, you're inevitably painted as a rube for some reason.
Baseball statistics are NOT to be played with. (no sarcasm)
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