Lambic Discussion Thread

[falc0n26001]

FWIW, Boon once told me that the only reason they say not to store the bottle on its side on the label is because they don't believe consumers understand the concept of moving a bottle to an upright position from a horizontal position prior to drinking.

But lambic is also served horizontally, because it's stored horizontally.

Maybe that's why it's stored horizontally? So you can get a clearer pour without yeast?










sorry

 

[Phin1]

Pretty sure that I've never had Black Label from Boon before. As the clerk told me, it is very dry. It is also quite tasty, batch 1. For 10 Euros, I'm certainly not complaining.

 

[skrip]

the Boon Vat box is up on Etre

 

[jrstar96]

the Boon Vat box is up on Etre

I have been waiting on this for over 40 days to complete my reservation! They also have them by the single. Grabed a few more 109 to fill out the rest of the box and I'm ready to ship!

 

[sherm10161]

Dammit. I completed my reservation on Monday, since yesterday was the 20th.

THIS ISN'T NAM. THERE ARE RULES.

 

[nathanmiller]

Is everyone excited for Zwanze? I’ll be at the avenue pub in New Orleans. Really looking forward to this years batch.

Find me! I'm gonna wear a Talkbeer shirt. I'll be upstairs all day long (from around 9-10ish until I finally die of exhaustion in the evening) near the bathroom (specifically I should find myself on the right side of that room that the bathroom is in, at one of the small tables, with my back to the picture of the girl offering the flower to the skeleton.)

 

[sherm10161]

Seriously though, does Etre not enforce the 20th of the last month of the quarter as stated on their website?

They seem to have a tendency to post new and interesting items shortly after the beginning of the new quarter - I would assume a vehicle to get new reservations started.

If they're not going to enforce it, is it just there to screw over people who try to follow their posted rules?

 

[wyatt1]

I have found that they enforce it, but would let you slide if you only have one thing in a box.

 

[jrstar96]

Dammit. I completed my reservation on Monday, since yesterday was the 20th.

THIS ISN'T NAM. THERE ARE RULES.

Seriously though, does Etre not enforce the 20th of the last month of the quarter as stated on their website?

They seem to have a tendency to post new and interesting items shortly after the beginning of the new quarter - I would assume a vehicle to get new reservations started.

If they're not going to enforce it, is it just there to screw over people who try to follow their posted rules?

Based on my previous experiences, you have until they actual send you the paypal invoice for shipping. Last time they were I think 2 weeks late with the invoice and even asked me in my email if I wanted to add anything cause it wasn't at the weight limit and only 11 bottles

 

[wuntrikpony]

Boon discovery box up on etre.

 

[sherm10161]

Based on my previous experiences, you have until they actual send you the paypal invoice for shipping. Last time they were I think 2 weeks late with the invoice and even asked me in my email if I wanted to add anything cause it wasn't at the weight limit and only 11 bottles

Shame on me I guess. Lesson learned.

Would have much rather had the Boon Discovery box than what I ordered on Monday.

 

[JCastle1]

****, what are the weight limits like on Etre? I totally forgot about the deadline and I have 6 bottles pending. Gonna add some stuff.

 

[jrstar96]

****, what are the weight limits like on Etre? I totally forgot about the deadline and I have 6 bottles pending. Gonna add some stuff.

I think the change from one box to two happens at 38lbs

edit- this includes shipping materials weight, you can play around with the cart to see.

 

[JCastle1]

I think the change from one box to two happens at 38lbs

edit- this includes shipping materials weight, you can play around with the cart to see.

Nice, thanks. Gonna buy one of those variety boxes.

 

[straightlambic]

I have been waiting on this for over 40 days to complete my reservation! They also have them by the single. Grabed a few more 109 to fill out the rest of the box and I'm ready to ship!

Interesting that they started to jack up the price of all the Vat beers with this new drop.

When I ordered some 109's on Monday they were €9.17 (now €11.35), and 79 was €10.37 (now €12.37).

 

[RuckIt]

****, what are the weight limits like on Etre? I totally forgot about the deadline and I have 6 bottles pending. Gonna add some stuff.

I believe (11x) 750's (33lbs) is the sweet spot, taking into account packing materials which jack up the weight.

 

[MooseLang]

Packing materials add 15% more weight.

So add up the given weights of the bottles you've selected, multiply the total by 1.15, and if you're under 38 lbs, you're good to go.

 

[JohnnyBags]

I believe (11x) 750's (33lbs) is the sweet spot, taking into account packing materials which jack up the weight.

I have found this to be the case as well.

 

[GetchaPull]

A bunch more 3F decanters for sale...

 

[bauermj]

A bunch more 3F decanters for sale...

God damnit, forgot this wasn't the etre thread

 

[buzzword]

Jesus Christ you nerds. Stop.

Aren't you some kind of scientist? Can't you just do the experiment for only vav to read?

unfollow thread

y'all hate learning or something ?

 

[lb304854]

y'all hate learning or something ?

I like stupac2's analytical approach, but some of us have read these posts for 4+ years now. I was merely wondering if he was the kind of scientist who could make his dream of peer-reviewed lambic aging a reality.

 

[buzzword]

I like stupac2's analytical approach, but some of us have read these posts for 4+ years now. I was merely wondering if he was the kind of scientist who could make his dream of peer-reviewed lambic aging a reality.

um peep my join date brah. also 2013. i also know stupac irl so i love it even more. would financially support said peer review.

 

[lb304854]

um peep my join date brah. also 2013. i also know stupac irl so i love it even more. would financially support said peer review.

Also, I hate learning.

 

[stupac2]

um peep my join date brah. also 2013. i also know stupac irl so i love it even more. would financially support said peer review.

I met lurchingbeast once. Let's just say the Toronado bathrooms were a little messier after that night.

I like stupac2's analytical approach, but some of us have read these posts for 4+ years now. I was merely wondering if he was the kind of scientist who could make his dream of peer-reviewed lambic aging a reality.

It's easy enough to set up an experiment with different aging conditions (hell I think plenty of users here have done not-very-controlled versions themselves), and in general like vav said when you do that you find it doesn't really matter. The problem is that it's really hard to control for everything that's interesting, and if you want to know what's actually happening you need some pretty fancy tools. For example, setting up an experiment to detect oxygen/water diffusion across a barrier wouldn't be hard at all, the problem is measuring the trace amounts that diffuse across. (I've done these types of experiments with radon, but I have very sensitive radon detectors...) It would be fairly straightforward to come to a firm conclusion regarding the way oxygen gets into a bottle and how cork/why cork degrades with time, it would just require tools I don't have and likely never will.

I'm pretty surprised there's no literature on the cork question, that seems pretty darn relevant to the wine industry, but I also don't have access to the vast majority of the literature so I can't even check.

 

[mrk_d]

I'm pretty surprised there's no literature on the cork question, that seems pretty darn relevant to the wine industry, but I also don't have access to the vast majority of the literature so I can't even check.

Isn't that what Google Scholar is for?

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=wine+cork+oxygen&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf0706023

If you know someone in academia (hint hint) they can probably send you a PDF if you'd like.

 

[64vdub]

Don't forget about bottle variation to throw off any experiments

 

[stupac2]

Isn't that what Google Scholar is for?

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=wine+cork+oxygen&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf0706023

If you know someone in academia (hint hint) they can probably send you a PDF if you'd like.

Well yes, but I've looked and only so much is public. I don't really know anyone in academia anymore, and a lot of the beverage-specific literature isn't covered by institutional subscriptions anyway (I've tried).

 

[falc0n26001]

Well yes, but I've looked and only so much is public. I don't really know anyone in academia anymore, and a lot of the beverage-specific literature isn't covered by institutional subscriptions anyway (I've tried).

Ever used sci-hub? It was able to access the article posted above. http://sci-hub.io/

 

[stupac2]

Ever used sci-hub? It was able to access the article posted above. http://sci-hub.io/

I don't believe I had heard of it the last time I did a big push here. Thanks for the reminder!