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I like Intense Red plenty well. Regular 3F Oude Kriek is one of my favorites and definitely better than IR to me, but they're different and I like both plenty. I'm obsessed with kriek in general so glad to have options and glad the IR was remade. Very much hope Cuvee Rene Kriek makes it stateside.
 
That's encouraging news on a lot of fronts and I hope that means Rowingbrewer 's quest to get Cuvee Rene Kriek to the states is paying off. Their draught lambic that is on tap as a house beer at The Publican in Chicago is phenomenal.
Definitely because I sent that email
 
Honestly, it mainly speaks to how good the rest of their beers are... And that this one was $25/375.
I actually preferred the Marriage Parfait Kriek to Intense Red in a recent side by side, and then considering the 2x price difference it's a no brainer. That being said I do have a few IR and will be cracking one a year to see how it develops.
 
Is It possible to use 2 temp controllers in a row on the same device to prevent this sort of thing from happening?
When I went through the documentation on my Johnson 419a when I got it and there is a setting that controls how the outlet behaves in event of a sensor failure. You can set it so if it fails the outlet doesn't turn on rather than the factory default which is that in event of a failure the outlet will run the outlet nonstop.

This seems preferential to two units IMO because of some of the issues that others have noted, I hope this helps.
 
Is there any other way of figuring out the bottle date of a 3F Oude Kriek 750 besides the label? My brother in law brought me back a bottle from Europe and the part of the label that has the date printed was folded back during the adhesive process. I've tried soaking it in water and soap to see if I could peel it off cleanly but it didn't work.
Mostly just want to know for personal taste reference since I haven't had too many 3F OK's before.
 
Is there any other way of figuring out the bottle date of a 3F Oude Kriek 750 besides the label? My brother in law brought me back a bottle from Europe and the part of the label that has the date printed was folded back during the adhesive process. I've tried soaking it in water and soap to see if I could peel it off cleanly but it didn't work.
Mostly just want to know for personal taste reference since I haven't had too many 3F OK's before.

I don't know but I'm curious whether 750s of this are available in Europe. I haven't seen a 750 of any batch from the last several years and am wondering if they still regularly bottle in that format?
 
I don't know but I'm curious whether 750s of this are available in Europe. I haven't seen a 750 of any batch from the last several years and am wondering if they still regularly bottle in that format?
I want to say 2009 or 2010 was the last batch that had 750s, this is from my memory of seeing them on etre and biab over a year ago
 
I don't know but I'm curious whether 750s of this are available in Europe. I haven't seen a 750 of any batch from the last several years and am wondering if they still regularly bottle in that format?
I was not aware of this. Unfortunately, I don't know where exactly he got the bottle from. They traveled throughout France and Belgium. I might just have to ask him now.

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I was not aware of this. Unfortunately, I don't know where exactly he got the bottle from. They traveled throughout France and Belgium. I might just have to ask him now.

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Yeah I'm in love with this beer and will be in Netherlands/Belgium next month...if there's somewhere that has vintage 750s sittin' around I'd love to know where!
 
On a totally different note, I'm going to be in Amsterdam for work late next month and am planning to spend a few vacation days in Belgium after my work is done. I will not have a car and don't a shitload of money to spend on taxis getting to obscure places. My questions are...where should I look for bottles to bring back in Amsterdam and Brussels aside from at Cantillon obviously (and what bottles can I realistically expected to find on shelf in late February)? And just as importantly, is there any inexpensive way to get to de Cam from Brussels without a car?
 
On a totally different note, I'm going to be in Amsterdam for work late next month and am planning to spend a few vacation days in Belgium after my work is done. I will not have a car and don't a shitload of money to spend on taxis getting to obscure places. My questions are...where should I look for bottles to bring back in Amsterdam and Brussels aside from at Cantillon obviously (and what bottles can I realistically expected to find on shelf in late February)? And just as importantly, is there any inexpensive way to get to de Cam from Brussels without a car?
Based on driving to De Cam I doubt you can get there in any reasonable manner, but google maps has transit info for Belgium so you can just use that. As for bottles, there are stores around that have stuff but I doubt you find anything good. I got lucky at a random place in Brugge and found a LPG, but that's the rarest thing I've seen in any beer store in Belgium. You're better off going to bars and just drinking stuff there.
 
Yeah I'm in love with this beer and will be in Netherlands/Belgium next month...if there's somewhere that has vintage 750s sittin' around I'd love to know where!
Yeah it's my favorite "easily" available kriek as well. Thanks for the info and I'll let you know if they remember where they got it.
 
Based on driving to De Cam I doubt you can get there in any reasonable manner, but google maps has transit info for Belgium so you can just use that. As for bottles, there are stores around that have stuff but I doubt you find anything good. I got lucky at a random place in Brugge and found a LPG, but that's the rarest thing I've seen in any beer store in Belgium. You're better off going to bars and just drinking stuff there.

Yeah I'm not expecting to bring back cases of Lou Pepes or anything but I get two free checked bags I think so may as well bring back two suitcases of 750s for cheap, even if it's just standard fare. At the very least I should be able to get De Cam for really good prices I'd think. But hoping things like Iris or GCB or even just regular Cantillon/3F gueuze from a few years ago will be around. Or dare I hope for some St. Lam or Vig or something?
 
Yeah I'm not expecting to bring back cases of Lou Pepes or anything but I get two free checked bags I think so may as well bring back two suitcases of 750s for cheap, even if it's just standard fare. At the very least I should be able to get De Cam for really good prices I'd think. But hoping things like Iris or GCB or even just regular Cantillon/3F gueuze from a few years ago will be around. Or dare I hope for some St. Lam or Vig or something?
In stores? RdG, Bio Gueuze, and Bio Kriek will be available. Nothing else Cantillon will be unless you get stupid lucky. Regular 3F will be around. No idea about de Cam, if you can get to the store (and he's actually there...) you'll be able to buy bunches of it for pretty cheap, IIRC Framboise was the most expensive at like 9 Euro.

This, of course, changes if you have a car. I've heard of places outside of Brussels that have better selections, and I've been to a place in Ghent that had a shitton of the grape lambics. But you'd need a car.
 
It doesn't need to be. I was drunk the other night and posted that for some reason. I was just curious what people's preference is. Mine is geuze.
Well, what's the situation? I generally prefer gueuze but I think for a lot of food pairings you'd rather have the fruited stuff. Plus they're a nice change of pace.
 
In stores? RdG, Bio Gueuze, and Bio Kriek will be available. Nothing else Cantillon will be unless you get stupid lucky. Regular 3F will be around. No idea about de Cam, if you can get to the store (and he's actually there...) you'll be able to buy bunches of it for pretty cheap, IIRC Framboise was the most expensive at like 9 Euro.

This, of course, changes if you have a car. I've heard of places outside of Brussels that have better selections, and I've been to a place in Ghent that had a shitton of the grape lambics. But you'd need a car.

Same deal in Amsterdam and Paris? And anyone know if Golden Blend is still around in Europe? I'd like to stock up but prices in the states are too high to buy a bunch.

Also interested in any details about which rare bottles are still available at Moeder or other bars. I can't seem to find any updated menus online.

Buying bunches of de Cam 750s for like 8 euros a bottle and not paying shipping sounds like a damn good time to me. I'd fill two suitcases with Oude Kriek at that price no question. Now I just need to find a way to get to Gooik...
 
Well, what's the situation? I generally prefer gueuze but I think for a lot of food pairings you'd rather have the fruited stuff. Plus they're a nice change of pace.

Yeah and, which fruited lambic? Lately I've felt my preference is like...kriek > gueuze > framboise. With some of the specialty fruited stuff like Fou or St. Lam maybe above kriek. It also depends on the brewery. I like Cantillon gueuze as much or more than Cantillon kriek, but like 3F kriek more than 3F gueuze...shrug. Too many variables.
 
Same deal in Amsterdam and Paris? And anyone know if Golden Blend is still around in Europe? I'd like to stock up but prices in the states are too high to buy a bunch.

Also interested in any details about which rare bottles are still available at Moeder or other bars. I can't seem to find any updated menus online.

Buying bunches of de Cam 750s for like 8 euros a bottle and not paying shipping sounds like a damn good time to me. I'd fill two suitcases with Oude Kriek at that price no question. Now I just need to find a way to get to Gooik...
Never been to Amsterdam, but totally different story in Paris. There are only a few places worth going to in Paris, but when I was there they had some LPs, Viggy, St Lam, etc. Brewberry is a place that's definitely worth checking out if you want Cantillon, they also have a baffling assortment of American beer (they had Almanac on the shelves...). Cave a Bulles is worth a stop too. Both aren't far from transit so you'll be able to get there easily without a car. There are a few other spots, mostly bars though, but checking out RB should be enough to find them. Don't expect to find anything too crazy on tap in Paris, I mostly drank weird French beer, with the occasional standard Belgian thing or Bio Gueuze thrown in.

As for menus of places, they're not really available afaik. Moeder is a good bet to find fun stuff, but it's expensive. buzzword had good luck at Delirium but I'm not sure that could be replicated. Bier Circus is worth going to though it has weird hours and is in a weird location. You can get to 3F by train and that's probably worth doing if you have time, they had old gueuzes and hommage available in-house until recently. De Heeren and Grote Dorst are both reachable by transit but it's annoying.
 
and what bottles can I realistically expected to find on shelf in late February)?

CantillonWatch says St Lam, LP Gueuze and Fou are available right now. With a bit of luck St Lam and Fou may still be around in a month. And Vigneronne hasn't been released yet, so one can hope.
 
Also, for anyone who would like a nice little 3 year vert of Tilquin Goozie, one of the main online shops has a 3 pack of 750s for around $33.
Don't think it will be too hard to find and not sure what the etiquette is for this but I can include the name if someone can't find it?
 
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