Lambic Discussion Thread

[SeaWatchman]

Someone who has to pay australian prices.

#thanksabbott

 

[lambandtunaphish]

It's pretty neat having authentic lambics brewed right in my backyard now in the Stratford Valley using the traditional koelschip-less method.

1. I love when a brewery refers to their own beer "rare"... Nope. It's just limited and this is the first time you've made it.
2. Already in line for Saturday. Srs.

 

[BusinessSloth]

1. I love when a brewery refers to their own beer "rare"... Nope. It's just limited and this is the first time you've made it.
2. Already in line for Saturday. Srs.

Eh I'd try it. Even if actually calling it gueuze is retarded. For more than one reason. The main one being there's no cool-chip.

 

[The Red Viper]

Yeah I was assuming it would get around to the online stores but it has a 2013 bottled on date so I wondered if it had already gone up and I'd just missed it. Thanks.

Well don't I have good timing: http://www.bieresgourmet.be/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_2_73&products_id=1528

 

[The Red Viper]

I bought six on the strength of that one Ratebeer review. Here's hoping kraddel has a good palate.

 

[mrk_d]

So can someone outline how the Etre reservation system works? I want to round out a box but I see no indicator on the site on how to know whether you've filled a 38 pound box, or how to tell it to send.

 

[Thorpe]

So can someone outline how the Etre reservation system works? I want to round out a box but I see no indicator on the site on how to know whether you've filled a 38 pound box, or how to tell it to send.

Just send them an email and say you want to know how many bottles you can order to finish out the box. They respond quickly in my experience.

 

[The Red Viper]

So can someone outline how the Etre reservation system works? I want to round out a box but I see no indicator on the site on how to know whether you've filled a 38 pound box, or how to tell it to send.

I don't think it tells you, you just have to keep track. And then you either tell them when you want to ship what you've got, or they do it automatically at the end of each quarter...I am just doing this for the first time now so someone else will know better.

BiaB does this too now, and I've done it, and there at least you just send Kurt a message when you want your orders combined and shipped and he creates a special "product" listing for you that is 1 euro and "weighs" whatever your total orders weigh so you pay the shipping cost that way. So you just have to do the math on weight and keep track.

 

[OnryAndMean]

BiaB does this too now, and I've done it, and there at least you just send Kurt a message when you want your orders combined and shipped and he creates a special "product" listing for you that is 1 euro and "weighs" whatever your total orders weigh so you pay the shipping cost that way. So you just have to do the math on weight and keep track.

Yep, I just know how much I can squeeze in a box by now and keep a running tally, and just email Kurt when I know I've filled a box

 

[huskermike12]

So can someone outline how the Etre reservation system works? I want to round out a box but I see no indicator on the site on how to know whether you've filled a 38 pound box, or how to tell it to send.

...it almost always works out to 11 750's FWIW. Cheers!

Mike

 

[OnryAndMean]

...it almost always works out to 11 750's FWIW. Cheers!

Mike

Or 16 on BIAB

Plus a glass, or something small

 

[xscottypx]

waiting on 50lbs of boxes full of infected love

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

My boxes from the recent cantillon drop on être arrived as well as a few trades

11 2014 bio gueuze
3 2014 Kriek
3 2013 Belgium flag gueuze
3 2013 bio gueuze
2 2014 iris
4 2012 bio gueuze
2 BGC 2011 and 2013 corks
2013 lamnivus
2007 sticker LPG

30 750s in all

 

[PeelBacks]

We just got in some De Cam & Lambicx at work and I've been doing some research on them both for a write up. I came across an article from Good Beer Hunting on De Cam's Karel Goddeau that led me to some questions that I was wondering if anyone on here might be able to assist with.

After a day with Goddeau, the writer of the article states that "De Cam is a rather ambitious and well regarded operation, sometimes selling whole batches directly to a unique importer for the US." GBH article if interested in full

Knowing that Lambicx is a series of hand selected & distributed lambic by Vanberg & DeWulf importers, I had to assume when I read the above quote that those batches went to V&D especially since they import De Cam, but couldn't find anything online to back it up. On ratebeer & Untappd it's read to be by Strubbe but further poking around shows they just bottle it. I looked closer at the labels of the Lambicx bottles and found that one was procured from De Troch in the Wambeek region. The other lambic is shown to be sourced from a private domain in the Zenne Valley. Do they say private domain because De Cam gets their lambic from Boon, Lindemans, & Girardin and it would be an even bigger step to be able to get those breweries to ok, saying it came from them and put it on the label? I mean there's no way it's any of what Goddeau brews at 3F once a year, right?

OR, am I reading into the bold quote too much and they just mean they send finalized bottles/cases of De Cam batches directly to the importer? Either way, does anyone know what/who the domain/source is for Lambicx zenne valley private domain?

Thanks!

 

[The Red Viper]

We just got in some De Cam & Lambicx at work and I've been doing some research on them both for a write up. I came across an article from Good Beer Hunting on De Cam's Karel Goddeau that led me to some questions that I was wondering if anyone on here might be able to assist with.

After a day with Goddeau, the writer of the article states that "De Cam is a rather ambitious and well regarded operation, sometimes selling whole batches directly to a unique importer for the US." GBH article if interested in full

Knowing that Lambicx is a series of hand selected & distributed lambic by Vanberg & DeWulf importers, I had to assume when I read the above quote that those batches went to V&D especially since they import De Cam, but couldn't find anything online to back it up. On ratebeer & Untappd it's read to be by Strubbe but further poking around shows they just bottle it. I looked closer at the labels of the Lambicx bottles and found that one was procured from De Troch in the Wambeek region. The other lambic is shown to be sourced from a private domain in the Zenne Valley. Do they say private domain because De Cam gets their lambic from Boon, Lindemans, & Girardin and it would be an even bigger step to be able to get those breweries to ok, saying it came from them and put it on the label? I mean there's no way it's any of what Goddeau brews at 3F once a year, right?

OR, am I reading into the bold quote too much and they just mean they send finalized bottles/cases of De Cam batches directly to the importer? Either way, does anyone know what/who the domain/source is for Lambicx zenne valley private domain?

Thanks!

Are you talking about Oude Lambiek or Lambicx? The latter is not a de Cam beer.

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

I think he wants to know if any of the lambic used in Lambickx comes from de cam.

 

[The Red Viper]

I think he wants to know if any of the lambic used in Lambickx comes from de cam.

Ooooh. If that's the case I don't know but I assume that the article is referring to Oude Lambiek when it talks about whole batches going to a U.S. importer.

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

Ooooh. If that's the case I don't know but I assume that the article is referring to Oude Lambiek when it talks about whole batches going to a U.S. importer.

just took a look at the article and I read it the same way you did

 

[SeaWatchman]

I mean there's no way it's any of what Goddeau brews at 3F once a year, right?

¿Qué?

Either way, does anyone know what/who the domain/source is for Lambicx zenne valley private domain?

By many accounts it's Boon lambic in the Private Domain blend.

 

[stupac2]

Speaking of LambickX, does anyone know it well enough to help me clean up the Untappd entries? There are about 17 under various breweries (mostly V&W and Strubbe) and I don't really know wtf is going on with it.

 

[The Red Viper]

Speaking of LambickX, does anyone know it well enough to help me clean up the Untappd entries? There are about 17 under various breweries (mostly V&W and Strubbe) and I don't really know wtf is going on with it.

I've avoided buying any of these partly because of the confusion with the differences between the various bottlings. From reviews it seems like some are definitely better than others but I haven't been exactly sure which would be worth the cost or not.

 

[SeaWatchman]

I've avoided buying any of these partly because of the confusion with the differences between the various bottlings. From reviews it seems like some are definitely better than others but I haven't been exactly sure which would be worth the cost or not.

The Oude Kriek is fantastic, fwiw. I think there has only been one batch of that.

 

[The Red Viper]

The Oude Kriek is fantastic, fwiw. I think there has only been one batch of that.

I've heard that. Haven't seen it on shelf in a while but will probably buy it if I do.

 

[jmarce]

at what point should I be worried about this? my etre/biab orders in the past have been delivered 3-5 business days after I see the processed through sort facility in Belgium.

 

[The Red Viper]

at what point should I be worried about this? my etre/biab orders in the past have been delivered 3-5 business days after I see the processed through sort facility in Belgium.

I had two boxes recently (one from BiaB and one from Etre) that were processed October 10 in Belgium, then processed October 19 in US, then delivered October 21. Processing time varies depending on how busy customs is, as far as I can tell.

I'm waiting on another shipment that was also processed October 20. If it doesn't process in the U.S. by this weekend I might start to get a little nervous, but I'm not yet.

 

[kscaldef]

Usually it's a couple days, but I've had a box sit in customs for almost a month.

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

at what point should I be worried about this? my etre/biab orders in the past have been delivered 3-5 business days after I see the processed through sort facility in Belgium.

I also had a couple boxes take over 10 days to be delivered from the date they were initiated in belgium

 

[stupac2]

at what point should I be worried about this? my etre/biab orders in the past have been delivered 3-5 business days after I see the processed through sort facility in Belgium.

I just had a box from Belgium take 2 weeks in customs. It happens, and there's nothing you can do anyway so may as well just keep waiting. I believe if they destroy the contents you'll get a notice.

 

[rsths13]

How variable is 3F oude geuze from year to year?

Sorry if that is a noob question. I just had a couple Oude Geuzes that were bottled in Late 2012. I really enjoyed them, and I am thinking about a large online order of a different vintage. However, I am a wondering if I should find bottles to try before ordering a different vintage in bulk.

 

[PeelBacks]

Thanks for the Lambicx help, I was mainly looking to find out where the lambic from the private domain was from / confirm I read the article passage wrong.

Seperately, I'm pretty set on my De Cam research now. And to answer SeaWatchman que, I read in Sparrow's Wild Brews that Karel taught Armand to brew and Armand "taught" Karel to blend and that once a year Karel brews a batch for De Cam at 3F.