Lambic Discussion Thread

[kzeon]

The last time I bought Fou from a physical store was in 2012...

Walgreens? wowl

Why only one

 

[JulianB1]

The last time I bought Fou from a physical store was in 2012...

Did they sell two cases to JEG?

 

[Padraig]

Anyone know what the deal is with this proposed 3F pub? Is it going to be in Beersel?

 

[wyatt1]

How does 3F's production compare to cantillon? I know cantillon is more hyped, but webshops can't keep cantillon in stock but generally have a decent amount of 3F. That said I have seen Etre selling out of some 3F recently.

 

[stupac2]

How does 3F's production compare to cantillon? I know cantillon is more hyped, but webshops can't keep cantillon in stock but generally have a decent amount of 3F. That said I have seen Etre selling out of some 3F recently.

Cantillon only sells what they brew. 3F buys lambic from other producers and blends that. I believe that's the main difference. (It probably doesn't help that Cantillon also makes a zillion different things while 3F only makes a few.)

 

[thefleshlight]

Cantillon only sells what they brew. 3F buys lambic from other producers and blends that. I believe that's the main difference. (It probably doesn't help that Cantillon also makes a zillion different things while 3F only makes a few.)

I thought 3F was full-on selling only their goozie at least, but still buying lambic to blend for their other beers?

 

[stupac2]

I thought 3F was full-on selling only their goozie at least, but still buying lambic to blend for their other beers?

Lambic.info isn't totally clear on this, but SeaWatchman will probably be in shortly to say. I was under the impression that they were still only using the 3F-brewed lambic as a blend component, but that may be wrong.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Lambic.info isn't totally clear on this, but SeaWatchman will probably be in shortly to say. I was under the impression that they were still only using the 3F-brewed lambic as a blend component, but that may be wrong.

Currently there isn't enough 3F brewed lambic to make up 100% of their blends and bottlings. In 2013 they started blending younger lambic brewed on-site into their geuze blends and we can assume they're in whatever they can. Slowly but surely I believe the plan is to primarily use their own lambic for everything, but those things take time. Girardin was phase out in 2010, but there are still barrels of lambic with wort that originated from Boon and Lindemans. We're not 100% clear with ratios of young to old like we are with Tilquin, and we also don't know which lambics are making up the bottlings fruit bottlings.

A caveat: No matter where the wort originates from, all of the places consider the lambic to be "theirs". That is to say that if the wort originates from Boon and is aged at 3F then it is 3F lambic. The same goes for all of the blenders. Tilquin considers their lambic to be Tilquin lambic even though none of it is brewed on-site. It's all about taste/characteristics/age and not where it comes from for these guys.

 

[thefleshlight]

Lambic.info isn't totally clear on this, but SeaWatchman will probably be in shortly to say. I was under the impression that they were still only using the 3F-brewed lambic as a blend component, but that may be wrong.

Ya, I think you and I have opposite thoughts on what may or may not be going on there. For some reason, I thought I read somewhere, likely some forum internet bro, saying they were on 100% of their own lambic but ya, I cannot substantiate that one bit.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

The last time I bought Fou from a physical store was in 2012...

Hearing about Carleton's flip flops coming off while he was running to the store made me smile when I heard it, and made me smile again this morning thinking about it again.

 

[tennispl]

Looks like there's 11 more bottles of that 99 Selection Lambic back up on Etre, cause apparently it's easy to find an additional 11 bottles of a 16 year old beer...

 

[LukeAleTime]

Opened a Dec 2014 RdG last night. Was brilliantly fruity and fun. Gf and I were discussing fruited lambics and she's like "do you have an older one to compare it to". So we opened a 2013 (Sept) and it was still fruity but had so much more to it. Cheese, leather, vinegar.

I think 2 to 3 yr old RdG is the sweet spot for me and possibly my favourite Cantillon.

Then she beat me at trivial pursuit and as I type this I'm wondering if she got me talking lambic as a distraction.

 

[Padraig]

2010 OGV. Lasted a week. Loads of Granny Smith and funk. Very mild acetone but cleared up once it had a chance to breath.

 

[sliverx]

Had this last night at a tasting, the guy who brought it said the guy he got it from thinks it's 1990 or 1991 Rose de Gambrinus. To me it seemed more likely to be a kriek. The bottle had no label but did have a red plastic shrink wrap type thing covering the bottle opening that was only corked no crown cap. There was no date on the cork obviously.


Taste wise to me it was if you took a slightly oxidized kriek and soaked some well done toast in it. Not vinagery and still carbed. Don't mind the cork floaties.

 

[callmemickey]

2010 OGV. Lasted a week. Loads of Granny Smith and funk. Very mild acetone but cleared up once it had a chance to breath.

Acetone (nail polish remover) or acetic acid (vinegar)?

 

[Padraig]

Acetone.

 

[falc0n26001]

Had this last night at a tasting, the guy who brought it said the guy he got it from thinks it's 1990 or 1991 Rose de Gambrinus. To me it seemed more likely to be a kriek. The bottle had no label but did have a red plastic shrink wrap type thing covering the bottle opening that was only corked no crown cap. There was no date on the cork obviously.


Taste wise to me it was if you took a slightly oxidized kriek and soaked some well done toast in it. Not vinagery and still carbed. Don't mind the cork floaties.

Didn't it use to also contain cherries?

 

[SeaWatchman]

Didn't it use to also contain cherries?

Prior to 2004-2005, it was botteld with 5-10% kriek for color. The first bottling (1986) contained 25% kriek.

 

[sliverx]

Didn't it use to also contain cherries?

Prior to 2004-2005, it was botteld with 5-10% kriek for color. The first bottling (1986) contained 25% kriek.

I read this while telling guys about lambic.info the guy didn't have a ton of info on the beer other than they think it is RdG and about 1991 vintage.

 

[sliverx]

Had this last night at a tasting, the guy who brought it said the guy he got it from thinks it's 1990 or 1991 Rose de Gambrinus. To me it seemed more likely to be a kriek. The bottle had no label but did have a red plastic shrink wrap type thing covering the bottle opening that was only corked no crown cap. There was no date on the cork obviously.


Taste wise to me it was if you took a slightly oxidized kriek and soaked some well done toast in it. Not vinagery and still carbed. Don't mind the cork floaties.

It was this bottle.

 

[jbeezification1]

Yet another reason why Stone is vastly superior to Cantillion. No labels, no problem. You beer snobs could learn a thing or two from American breweries. #murica #newmoney4life

 

[SeaWatchman]

It was this bottle.

I responded to his post about the dates more in the group.

 

[boogercrack]

Well ****. I guess I need to join another fb group.

 

[boogercrack]

Woo! Thanks for the add.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Yet another reason why Stone is vastly superior to Cantillion. No labels, no problem. You beer snobs could learn a thing or two from American breweries. #murica #newmoney4life

Dustin you're drunk go home.

 

[Padraig]

New 50N in 2017 (probably).

 

[SeaWatchman]

New 50N in 2017 (probably).

Source? Jean has had lambic in Cognac barrels for almost 3 years now and when we were there in June he was saying he wasn't a huge fan of how it had been aging (tasted fine though).

 

[Padraig]

JVR last Friday.

I wouldn't bet my life savings on it or anything.

 

[doobliebop1]

green walnut back up on etre limit 1

 

[SeaWatchman]

We reached out to Hanssens through a contact at HORAL about the Oude Kriek Handgeplukte Schaerbeekse Krieken release that happened initially for Toer de Geuze 2015 and this is the (translated) response:

The 'Scarrabecca' was a 100% Schaarbeekse Kriek Lambic. This was exclusively for export to the US, where our importer himself put in a label. The Schaerbeek Kriek with our own label is indeed mixed with lambic to get fermentation in the bottle. These are now widely available and for the moment replacing our Oude Kriek (yellow label).

I didn't quite know that Hanssens Scarenbecca was for U.S. only. So, essentially you can think of Hanssens Oude Kriek and Oude Schaerbeekse Kriek as you would 3F Oude Kriek and Schaerbeekse Kriek.

For those who are inclined, here's the original: De ' Scarrabecca ' was een 100% Schaarbeekse Kriekenlambiek. Dit was uitsluitend voor export naar US waar onze invoerder zelf een etiket aanbracht. De Schaarbeekse Kriek met ons eigen etiket is inderdaad gemengd met lambiek om hergisting op fles te krijgen. Deze zijn nu overal verkrijgbaar en vervangen momenteel onze Oude Kriek (met geel etiket).