Lallemand New England 11g yeast

[thehaze]

The Koln yeast is new, the New England one has been around for some while, though only available in 500 gr packs. Some shop in the UK or Ireland has been repackaging this in small 25 gr packs, but that was not something that came directly from Lallemand. It was a shop-only decision. Now it has been made available in small 11 gr homebrewer packages, which means it will most surely appear in different shops around the world. The opinions around this yeast are somewhat split, with many saying it's not really as good as the liquid one, but at this point, any new additions to the dry yeast catalogue are welcomed.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Hmm. The yeast manufacturers all copy each other. I'll bet this is finally Lallemand's version of Fermentis K-97. Less likely is that it is a completely new strain but that of course is possible.

They may rhyme but they don't copy directly - don't forget that Lallemand has no Chico, but pitch BRY-97 as an alternative. So it wouldn't surprise me if say it was closer to 1007/WLP003 rather than WLP036.

I'll have to use a tad more sleuthing to try to figure out whether the new NEIPA yeast has any "equivalent".

It's a derivative of the Conan family.

I guess it's a bit of a tradeoff between the contribution of the yeast and the dried yeast meaning that you don't need to oxygenate as much. Cloudwater have been using it quite a bit lately - one of those beers rated 4.13 on Untappd, and a non-exhaustive search found another rated 4.23 on Untappd, so not too shabby. (not that Untappd ratings count for too much...)

 

[Big Monk]

The Koln yeast is new, the New England one has been around for some while, though only available in 500 gr packs. Some shop in the UK or Ireland has been repackaging this in small 25 gr packs, but that was not something that came directly from Lallemand. It was a shop-only decision. Now it has been made available in small 11 gr homebrewer packages, which means it will most surely appear in different shops around the world. The opinions around this yeast are somewhat split, with many saying it's not really as good as the liquid one, but at this point, any new additions to the dry yeast catalogue are welcomed.

My shop has had it in 11g packets directly from Lallemand for almost 2 years.

Maybe only vendors could get it in those small packages.

 

[thehaze]

My shop has had it in 11g packets directly from Lallemand for almost 2 years.

Maybe only vendors could get it in those small packages.

Most likely. I was not able to find any in Europe, in any of the shops I usually shopped.

 

[Silver_Is_Money]

I asked Lallemand for 11 g packets about 3-4 months ago via email, and they told me I would have to purchase 500 g.

 

[Big Monk]

I asked Lallemand for 11 g packets about 3-4 months ago via email, and they told me I would have to purchase 500 g.

Interesting.

I've used it 2-3 times over the last couple years. I like it. I like BRY-97 as well.

 

[Big Monk]

As a general aside:

Lallemand is wonderful to deal with. I've been in contact with their technical people a number of times and they are prompt and really come back with very specific technical information when queried.

 

[Frusty]

@Big Monk can you give more detail on this? The reddit thread is really down on this strain, and I'm curious how your actual brews turned out. Were they juicy and NEIPA-like at all?

(I know this is an old thread, but really curious as my local place carries it and I am a huge fan of Trillium, Treehouse, etc.)

 

[Frusty]

I'll add that I've got a batch of graff going with this right now. It was a slow start, but there are obv a lot of available sugars there and it's chugging along respectably 18 hours in.

 

[moreb33rplz]

I've used this and the Gigayeast Vermont, which I think is the same strain, and liked the dry very much. My notes for the batch mention pineapple. I used one packet into 2.5 gallons of wort, no rehydration.

 

[Frusty]

Thanks @moreb33rplz , I appreciate the feedback. All the comments on here are pretty vague and technical for a looser brewer like myself. Despite the parts per billion counts or whatever 42 hours in is still bubbling away very vigorously. I'm not a numbers guy and am much more interested in flavor profile when it comes to yeast. I'll report back with how this tastes when it's all said and done. Am hoping for that "juicy", pineapple-y mouthful of flavor.

 

[Big Monk]

@Big Monk can you give more detail on this? The reddit thread is really down on this strain, and I'm curious how your actual brews turned out. Were they juicy and NEIPA-like at all?

(I know this is an old thread, but really curious as my local place carries it and I am a huge fan of Trillium, Treehouse, etc.)

It’s relatively flavor neutral and flocculates well. NEIPA? Probably not, although it’s a fine DIPA, IPA, and PA Yeast.

 

[couchsending]

This yeast isn’t worth the $$ it takes to get the right cell count. You’ll end up spending way more on the correct number of packets as opposed to a liquid verison.

This is dried Conan. It’s available in liquid form from Imperial, Gigayeast, The Yeast Bay, Omega Yeast, and just about every other smaller yeast lab.

If you want to use a dry yeast to make “juicy” beer use the Verdant strain. Way higher cell count and it’s basically dried LAIII. Or you could blend some Verdant/New England or Verdant/So4 or New England/So4 or countless other options.