LALBREW® VOSS KVEIK ALE YEAST

[rhys333]

If I remember correctly, it was about 67C (153F) for one hour.

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[kartracer2]

Well call me a slacker, I promised to kind of document a "running total" on my Dry Voss Kveik deal.
Here is Thursday's,,,, report: S.G. = 1.020 @ 88*
and the numbers for Friday; S.G. = 1.015 @ 86*
As you can see it's cooling down and also slowing down as I guess would be expected. @ 1.015 it's still going to be a boozy beer, 8.5%. I'm OK with that but it's still going, abet slowly. Now I'm a bit worried that it's going to be very dry, That makes me think about what I will do the next time, but I'm not "Really" worried. We"ll see what one more day brings.
Oh, not sure if any body has seen this but it's a video about Kveik by the guy that helped Lallemand develop their dry Voss Kveik Strain. (I think). If nothing else it's a good watch, very informative, at least to me.

This page is worth a look about with some of the Q&A's from it.
https://www.lallemandbrewing.com/en/canada/news/questions-to-special-guest-lars-marius-garshol/I hope the links work,,

Joel B.

 

[Greytop]

Oh, not sure if any body has seen this but it's a video about Kveik by the guy that helped Lallemand develop their dry Voss Kveik Strain. (I think). If nothing else it's a good watch, very informative, at least to me.

I bought his book. It's a good read, especially if you like traveling. Also interesting the differences in how the traditional farmers brew and what they put in the mix.

Did my first Lalbrew Voss today. Went with an IPA. Pitched 6 grams on 5.5 gallons of 1.078 wort at 94°. I've got a heating pad in the fermentation chamber holding it at 95°. Thanks to everyone for all the advice. "New toy" is absolutely right!

 

[kartracer2]

Did my first Lalbrew Voss today. Went with an IPA. Pitched 6 grams on 5.5 gallons of 1.078 wort at 94°. I've got a heating pad in the fermentation chamber holding it at 95°. Thanks to everyone for all the advice. "New toy" is absolutely right!

Good plan. I kind of lost my heat and (no heating pad) it seemed that when it went below 90* it really slowed down. It has all but stopped now, losing only a few points in the last couple of days. I have to remember though it has been less than 6 full days and it has chewed through a 1.079 wort to around 1.013, still impressive in my book. Pretty sure if I could have kept a 95* temp it would be done by now
The next thing,,,is it going to clear up any more, it's rather hazy at this point. I'm not so sure it will but I'm going to give it a couple of days to see what it does. I steeped a pound of CaraRed to give it some color, not sure if that was a good idea or if would have made any difference. More to come later,,,

Joel B.

 

[Greytop]

I've read that even though Voss may hit terminal gravity within a few days, some brewers have gotten good results by giving it two weeks. Maybe it works similar to more familiar yeasts in that it spends the additional time cleaning up and flocking.

 

[Greytop]

Quick update for anyone interested. In 48 hours @ constant 95° S.G. dropped from 1.078 to 1.025. Underpitchd 6 grams in 5.5 gallons with 4tsp of Fermax. I had activity in the blowoff within 3 hours. After 2 days, activity has slowed, but it's still sending bubbles from the bottom. I switched to a regular vapor lock and am hoping it will continue to drop to my target of 1.014.

 

[kartracer2]

@Greytop , sounds good. It "should" go to 1.014, with my single experience so far. Mine stopped @ 1.013 and would have been happy @ .016. Mine is setting waiting to see if it clears up a bit more. Been pretty much done for a couple of days and today has been a week from pitching. Seems to be clearing a little but not very quickly. I kind of need to get it to bottles in the next day of so,, supply pipe line and consumption running real close at this point.


Joel B.

 

[rhys333]

Well, I brewed a pale ale this evening. Stats: 1.053, 5.5 gallons, starting temp 87F. I pitched 5.5g (half a packet) of kveik at 6:00pm and it was already bubbling by 9:30pm. It's also the first time I'm using my new Anvil Brew Bucket, which is smaller than my other fermentors. It's my only pet peeve about it and I wish they had made the thing a half gallon bigger. I thought it wise to attach a blow off tube.

 

[kartracer2]

I thought it wise to attach a blow off tube.

Yea , a good idea. I didn't need it but started with one. 5g. in a 6g fermonster and it came close to the top but not quite.
Mine not flocking like I hoped, but that's not so important on this beer,, it's been an experiment from the beginning

Joel B.

 

[rhys333]

Yea , a good idea. I didn't need it but started with one. 5g. in a 6g fermonster and it came close to the top but not quite.
Mine not flocking like I hoped, but that's not so important on this beer,, it's been an experiment from the beginning

Joel B.

I ended up not needing the blow-off either, despite it being almost violently active for the past 24 hours. Speaking of which, it's now 6pm on day two and the airlock has flatlined.

 

[kartracer2]

I ended up not needing the blow-off either, despite it being almost violently active for the past 24 hours. Speaking of which, it's now 6pm on day two and the airlock has flatlined.

WOW,, mine kept bubblin for a couple of days, not a lot just enough to say wait some more. I just got done putting it to sleep in bottles as I type. The only thing I might have any complaint about is that it didn't flock well. I'm sure it's some thing I did or didn't do but the beer tastes great for what it is, just a "beer". I know that some ppl will poo poo just a boozy beer. Hey it was a $32.00 kit, didn't expect a any awards with it.
It was really more a yeast experiment. I figured that at the worst I'd end up with some kind of fermented beverage. Got that.
I'm not a fancy brewer, pretty much low rent so to speak. This has been fun so far, I plan to make a post as soon as I sample the first bottle and make a synopsis of the deal for some who might give a crap. It's been a learning experience for me and maybe some one else might learn from it also.
Yeah brewing is fun,,,exasperating sometimes, but that's allure to me. making beer with what I have. Bucks don't make better beer if you don't know the what's and why's.
Woops, got a bit windy here, I tend to do that sometimes,,,
Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[Immocles]

I finally managed to getting around to using this yeast today. I had two planned brew days postponed due to life. It happens

This stuff is nuts. Almost instant action inside the fermenter. Given most folks time tables, I should be packaging next Friday and sampling off my uKeg in...10 days?

 

[Saunassa]

I brewed my cream ale last Saturday afternoon, by evening it was a chugging along OG 1.050, Sunday night 1.010 and by Monday night at fg 1.007. dropped temp to 71f and waited rest of week to clear and will bottle tomorrow, 1 week after pitch.

 

[kartracer2]

I brewed my cream ale last Saturday afternoon, by evening it was a chugging along OG 1.050, Sunday night 1.010 and by Monday night at fg 1.007. dropped temp to 71f and waited rest of week to clear and will bottle tomorrow, 1 week after pitch.

My first foray with this yeast I have only one dis. I steeped 1lb of carared for color. I'm liking the beer for every thing else but just does'nt want to clear up. Made the same beer today w/out any steeping grains and it's almost clear as the yeastys kick in. (In like 2.5 hr. @97* only using the second half a pack.5.2 g. there abouts,,)
Kinda wierd, never gave much a eff about the ferment, it was what it was, but with this yeast it's a different ballgame.
One thing I simply amazed about is pitching half a pack dry at 90*+ and it bubbling within 3-4 hrs is crazy,

Edit,,,I bottle and in 1 week it's coming around already. Still hazy though, hoping that a day in the fridge would drop out some haze, no luck

 

[Joshua Hughes]

I finally managed to getting around to using this yeast today. I had two planned brew days postponed due to life. It happens

This stuff is nuts. Almost instant action inside the fermenter. Given most folks time tables, I should be packaging next Friday and sampling off my uKeg in...10 days?

I bottle it in 6-7 days and did at 5 days once.

 

[Immocles]

I’m curious what the clarity will be. I completely spaced on my whirlfloc tablet, so that won’t be helping. Wasn’t looking for a particularly clear beer anyways since I used some oats, but I’m hoping it’s not gonna be a murky mess

 

[Joshua Hughes]

none of mine using Kveik have been clear but not “floaties” either

 

[Tyler B]

I used oats and mine never really cleared either. It was always a bit cloudy and actually a pleasant golden-honey-orange color. A brown beer might look less visually appealing. The next time I use it, I won't rush to keg it because I think the finished beer would have benefited from more time to clear in primary.

 

[Immocles]

It kept pushing nearly all the liquid out of my S airlock last night and I ended up having to bust out one of my ole 3 piece airlocks that I never use anymore. Pretty wild. Also really digging the smell, hopefully some of that is staying in the beer and not all getting exhaled out haha.

I used oats and mine never really cleared either. It was always a bit cloudy and actually a pleasant golden-honey-orange color. A brown beer might look less visually appealing. The next time I use it, I won't rush to keg it because I think the finished beer would have benefited from more time to clear in primary.

Yeah, im okay with a little cloudy/hazy if the color is pleasant looking. I'm more concerned about that brownish, swampy looking murk though. OG sample had a pretty nice golden color to it though, so maybe it'll be a happy mistake.

 

[Joshua Hughes]

It kept pushing nearly all the liquid out of my S airlock last night and I ended up having to bust out one of my ole 3 piece airlocks that I never use anymore. Pretty wild. Also really digging the smell, hopefully some of that is staying in the beer and not all getting exhaled out haha.


Yeah, im okay with a little cloudy/hazy if the color is pleasant looking. I'm more concerned about that brownish, swampy looking murk though. OG sample had a pretty nice golden color to it though, so maybe it'll be a happy mistake.

I swapped 3 times my last batch in the first day then all was well. I’ve heard it makes a good bitter but I haven’t tried yet. I could die happy drinking a bitter a day. I’d also like to make a stout.

 

[Saunassa]

none of mine using Kveik have been clear but not “floaties” either

The blonde I made with Hornindal is clear with no haze. I used whirlflock in the boil and I leave the bottles in the fridge for two weeks before drinking them.

 

[Tyler B]

Yeah, im okay with a little cloudy/hazy if the color is pleasant looking. I'm more concerned about that brownish, swampy looking murk though. OG sample had a pretty nice golden color to it though, so maybe it'll be a happy mistake.

What was the grainbill like? Any dark grains or dark crystal/caramel malts?

Also, for the record, mine was hazy but not murky

 

[kartracer2]

This might be a dumb thought,,. Would filling the fermenter warmer (trying to keep as much heat) change how much "break" material stays in suspension? It seems like I get very little junk to keep out of the FV at aprox. 100*.
I do partial boils, so would it be smarter to let the wort cool more/longer and then add warmer/hot water to top it off in the FV in an attempt to start with less junk?.
I use 1/2 tablet of wirlfloc @ 5min left in boil, is that the right way to use it?.
I made the same beer as the first time but "without" the pound of steeped Carared and only 5.2g. of yeasties. So it was an all extract brew. Also found a heating pad that I'm using to keep it as close to the upper 90's as I can.
Any thoughts?.
Thanks,
Joel B.

 

[Immocles]

What was the grainbill like? Any dark grains or dark crystal/caramel malts?

Also, for the record, mine was hazy but not murky

90% 2 row
5% C40
5% oats

I know judging color by the fermenter is useless, but as it stands there it looks unappetizing. I know it’ll be significantly lighter in reality, but I hate when I forget whirlfloc plus a new quicker turnaround yeast. I’m sure it’s just brewer worry.

 

[Tyler B]

This might be a dumb thought,,. Would filling the fermenter warmer (trying to keep as much heat) change how much "break" material stays in suspension? It seems like I get very little junk to keep out of the FV at aprox. 100*.
I do partial boils, so would it be smarter to let the wort cool more/longer and then add warmer/hot water to top it off in the FV in an attempt to start with less junk?.
I use 1/2 tablet of wirlfloc @ 5min left in boil, is that the right way to use it?.
I made the same beer as the first time but "without" the pound of steeped Carared and only 5.2g. of yeasties. So it was an all extract brew. Also found a heating pad that I'm using to keep it as close to the upper 90's as I can.
Any thoughts?.
Thanks,
Joel B.

I don't know but I wouldn't think it matters much. Maybe? As for the whirlfloc, I add Irish moss/whirlfloc at the 10 minute mark (give or take a few minutes) and again I'm not really sure how much difference it makes.

Immocles, my grainbill was very similar and it came out looking nice. I think you will be fine after a bit of conditioning. The foam had a slightly off white color that I liked too. Of course, YMMV.

 

[rhys333]

I kegged mine at 10 days. It tastes clean, but definitely cloudy and I'm noticing weird chunks in the first few pours. Not sure if I sucked up some trub by mistake (I am using a new fermentor), or if more precipitated out in the kegerator. Tastes good though.

 

[ba-brewer]

I have not used this yeast but plan too in the future but comments about cloudiness has me wondering what is the cause.

One thing I have noticed from time to time is my wort will turn cloudy while chilling(assuming cold break) and stay cloudy until I get close to 70 or 80F. When warmer than that temp the cold break does not flocculate.

I wonder if pitching at 90 or 100F for some worts prevents the cold break from flocculating. Additionally if the wort was chilled to the point where the cold break drops then warmed back up to pitching temp(90F+) would the resulting beer be more clear.

 

[kartracer2]

@ba-brewer That's what I was wondering too. I wish I would have thought about it before I made this batch I would have tried just that. So far that's the only thing i would call a negative about this yeast. If I have to let it sit for a week or so to clear, it kind-of defeats the speedy fermentation angle of it.
Regardless, I'll continue to use it, I'm not taking any beers to comps so as long as it does what I like it for it's OK with me.
Cheers,
Joel B.

 

[rhys333]

I'm really happy with the pale ale I made with this kveik yeast. It's a real game changer for summer brewing. I think I'm going to use the slurry this weekend to make an amber ale. Just munich 6, victory and C120, I'm thinking.

Does anyone know - how much of the harvested slurry do I actually need? I'm assuming that the usual rule of thumb would be too high of a cell count for this beast.

Also, based on comments above, I'm going to chill this next batch down below 80F, then ramp back up to 90F. I'm curious to know if it will clear more (or sooner) than my pale ale.

 

[Immocles]

Bottled today and I’m on the fence. Obviously it’s quite early, but just not getting the hops that I normally do. I do pick up a little orange, butthat’s about it. I used my normal pale ale hopping, but added a whirlpool charge. I know that some bubbles and time will help a bit, but I’m underwhelmed at this point.
I don’t mind the hazy color though. Bad pic but I can live with it