Is this label a little racist?

[roastquake]

I was thinking of brewing a not-too-hoppy, wheat beer clone with watermelon.

Would it be racist if I called it "Eminem"?

I'm already offended :cross:

 

[Demus]

The label, no. This debate, yes.


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[manicmechanic]

Looks like its time to get the president and the department of justice involved to settle this. 😵


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[Sippin37]

It was brought to my attention by a coworker. And like somebody pointed out in the replies, he thought it could be considered racist due to the "black" berries and the African American used together. I believe it is a reach but can also see how people would find it insensitive, but not racist.

 

[Billy-Klubb]

Wow, you guys are reaching on this one. This is more of an homage to Barry with a play on words. African Americans have every right to be sensitive, but I don't think that non African Americans have to have a knee jerk reaction to every little thing unless it is blatantly racist, like the owner of the LA Clippers comments. Now that's racist, right?

riiiigggghhhtttt.... the only folk in the world who has no right to be sensitive about anything is the white male (please note the sarcasm). mental/social segregation still exists out of unwarranted guilt and/or arrogance.

 

[ajdelange]

Keep in mind that as the label on a commercial beer it has to have been approved by TTB.

 

[bford]

I have a feeling that would be the same beer label if they had used raspberries..

I would totally want to see a musician named Barry Rye.... it just sounds real....ha.

 

[kenmcchord]

If you have to ask…



That is always my motto. There was a strikingly racist label posted here a couple of days back. I cannot find it which means I am bad at looking or it was removed. It was clearly racist. Not 100% sure about yours except that my initial impression (because you point it out) is your choice in people is due to the use of blackberries. If that is spot on then I'd say it is lacking some class in spite of the nice artwork.

Maybe your referring to my post few days ago re: what came in the mail. I had a set of labels made for a black IPA I brewed that I'm calling "blackzilla". But the photos were only screen shots from the Dave Chappelle show episode "Blackzilla", with the caps being a shot of Chappelle's crackhead character Tyron Biggums. The whole thing was nothing more than a clever tribute to one of the funniest shows in recent memory, one that was very funny but also perceived as incredibly racist as well; or perhaps it's better said that Chappelle satirized racism through his comedy.

I didn't consider my label even remotely racist, nor do I consider the label the OP asked about racist either.


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[sandyeggoxj]

From here on out I would appreciate if the rules on hbt were changed so that any reference to color was censored. I think it is wrong to use color as a descriptor of any kind. I am going to pursue the bjcp standards and get the category names changed to take color out of beer......
/sarcasm

People get to caught up trying to find problems with everything. To those who called him African american... what tribe.in Africa is the guy on the label from? Id bet he was just a drawing based on an american. He fit the label just fine.

The real question is why wasn't it a woman on the label? A woman can't have the name Barry?!

 

[krackin]

Most of the time it is bigots who cry racism. Don't worry about it. PC is going out anyway.

 

[flars]

Thought about it long enough. Can't see any racism, but just not very appealing to try a different brew.

 

[drainbamage]

'Merica: We're not happy unless we're offended.

I don't see it, personally.

 

[Tutsbrew]

Seems to me that 8 or 9 out of 10 peeps who play offended by things that are not directly racist are those looking to get something from the "ordeal" even if it's just attention or getting to play victim. Just my $0.02. Having said that, if someone does do or say a directly racist comment or action then they should be dealt with on it. Yeah, I know, who's the judge as to where the line is drawn, right?

 

[EJay]

Musician? He was the mayor of the District.

What district? Not DC - there's never been a Barry Rye mayor. Are you thinking of Marion Barry?

I like the label, I just have no idea if I'm supposed to know the name Barry Rye and there's some deeper joke or tribute that I'm not cool enough to understand.

A review on Beer Advocate refers to soul hits of the 70s, but they've got to be thinking Barry White, and the picture on the label doesn't anything like Barry White.

If its some name they just made up, then I'm just offended that they didn't come up with something more clever.

 

[Owly055]

I find this obsession with political correctness deeply offensive...... far more so than the shallow and harmless supposedly racist & sexist speech / expression they "PCP" are constantly attacking. It is a threat to freedom of thought and of expression. One more tool in the drive toward conformity and uniformity. It's exactly the sort of behavior we condemned so loudly in the Soviet Union and other "not free" countries over the years. This kind of hypersensitivity is unrealistic and results in a climate of fear. An environment were we are afraid to speak in public, even to think "unworthy thoughts". You cannot speak truth if it doesn't match the way things are supposed to be. An example would be the recent uproar in Florida where nobody dared speak the truth that the area suffers from a LOT of property crime, and nearly all the perps matched the profile of the "victim". Dare to say that and everybody on the room would pounce on you at once! Another example was the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, where you could speak the facts that were apparent, and the flag wavers would all jump on you spewing Fox "News" garbage. Non conformity of thought was not tolerated, or at least brought loud condemnation.
One thing I've learned over the years is that the majority is nearly always wrong!! Which unfortunately does not bode well for our system of government.

H.W.

 

[Barley_Bob]

Is that Arsenio hall?

No, they just all look the same*.

Now that was racist. Take notes folks.

*Barley Bob does not actually believe that all the individuals within a given racial or ethnic group look the same.

 

[troy2000]

No, it isn't racist. I don't see how it denigrates anyone in any way, shape or form... much less for his race.

 

[Eucrid]

From here on out I would appreciate if the rules on hbt were changed so that any reference to color was censored. I think it is wrong to use color as a descriptor of any kind. I am going to pursue the bjcp standards and get the category names changed to take color out of beer......
/sarcasm

People get to caught up trying to find problems with everything. To those who called him African american... what tribe.in Africa is the guy on the label from? Id bet he was just a drawing based on an american. He fit the label just fine.

The real question is why wasn't it a woman on the label? A woman can't have the name Barry?!

Lets stop calling people black, white, etc and just refer to them by their SRM value.

 

[sandyeggoxj]

Lets stop calling people black, white, etc and just refer to them by their SRM value.

Now that is a cause I could get behind!