I understand now... but its still not ok (to varying degrees)

[kombat]

I once felt very much like you @kombat. With that said, I dont think I ever intended this thread to be an argument between who have and those who dont have kids.

No worries, Creamy, it's just a hot-button topic for me, particularly because this isn't exactly the kind of thing you can openly discuss in public, and especially not with the parents/relatives themselves. So the frustration gets pent up and erupts in a "safe" anonymous environment like this.

I certainly didnt want to cause an argument between you and a member who has been banned from the site for months now...

Was he??? Oh, that explains why I haven't seen him around. What'd he do, anyway? I must have missed some drama.

 

[cattmoble]

Most narcissistic thread award winner!!!! 🎉🎊🎇🎈🎁

 

[hunter_le five]

Was he??? Oh, that explains why I haven't seen him around. What'd he do, anyway? I must have missed some drama.

He kept posting verboten stuff, mods kept deleting it, he got sandy, and then he left.

Deleted threads and deleted posts?(triceratops) Really? FU*K THIS PLACE. See you all somewhere else!

It ain't eezy, bein' cheezy.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

Most narcissistic thread award winner!!!! ����������

Oh dude, if you think this is narcissistic, you should see some of my other threads! :fro:

 

[1977Brewer]

Trolls gonna troll.


I love my kids and will tell you all about them if you ask.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

No worries, Creamy, it's just a hot-button topic for me, particularly because this isn't exactly the kind of thing you can openly discuss in public, and especially not with the parents/relatives themselves. So the frustration gets pent up and erupts in a "safe" anonymous environment like this.

I get that, and to a certain extent that was the whole point of this thread. A certain kind of pretty wonderful dementia hits somewhere between 15 and 20seconds after your milk-monster's birth but one has to remember how frustrating it was when you were childless to live amongst the crazy people.

I'm pretty thrilled to be nuts right now... but I am trying like hell to not use the baby as an excuse for bad behavior on my part. I will blame him for when I am tired though.

 

[fuzzy2133]

No worries, Creamy, it's just a hot-button topic for me, particularly because this isn't exactly the kind of thing you can openly discuss in public, and especially not with the parents/relatives themselves. So the frustration gets pent up and erupts in a "safe" anonymous environment like this.

Probably 90% of people who have gotten married have gone through all those questions kombat. I personally reached the point of answering the question with a smart @***** answer.

 

[cattmoble]

Not just you "creamy" the whole subject matter as well as replies from both ends of the spectrum.
I have 3 children , 2 are adults and 1 teenager 😬 as well as 1 grandson. As soon as the grandson got here I realized grandkids are the reward for all the 💩 the kids did/do. ( which is by the way the same 💩 we all did to our parents) which explains the goofy grin my dad always had when he was around my kids as they were giving me 💩....
Anyway, I remember my dad saying as one point " if I had known grandchildren were so much fun I'd had them first".
It's all good !!!!!!!!

 

[SharonaZamboni]

Oh, kombat. Never have full control of my bladder? Sex is no good anymore?
You do realize that most females are built to accommodate a birth, right?
It's not like I sat on a grenade or something. That stuff ain't all blown up.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

I started this thread because Ive been on both sides of the coin... and now Im still on both sides of the coin.

I cant wait to go home to the baby. My wife is the best version of herself she has ever been, and I hope I am as well. I got annoyed at 3am when I got shaken awake to go feed the baby and then when he finished his bottle the little bastard hugged me. I'm still reeling.

With that said, people still ask if my wife is breastfeeding, when we are going to have another one, when we are going to move to the suburbs, all questions that make me want to go ballistic. I hope the next person who starts a monologue with "when I got pregnant I realized it was no longer all about me" is stricken with laryngitis and cant finish their self-agrandizing blather. Also, I REALLY hope I can keep my kid from kicking the back of the seat of the person in front of them on the plane... cuz MAN I hate that.

 

[AnOldUR]

 

[cattmoble]

Oh, kombat. Never have full control of my bladder? Sex is no good anymore?

You do realize that most females are built to accommodate a birth, right?

It's not like I sat on a grenade or something. That stuff ain't all blown up.

Right on Sharona , "that stuff ain't all blown up" roflmao

 

[Melana]

Then why do parents always look so tired, stressed, and miserable? If the good outweighs the bad, why is the bad always kept as such a secret? Why not be upfront and tell women the truth? If you have kids, you will never have full control of your bladder again. Sex will never feel as good again. For either of you. You will get stretch marks, your ****s will sag, you will always carry a little extra weight, and you will never be as attractive as you otherwise could have been. You will have embarrassing experiences like lactating through your shirt in public, or leaving a stain on your friend's couch if you laugh too hard. You will spend the entire first year fighting with your spouse over who got slightly more sleep and thus whose turn it is to go feed the baby. You will fight over money, how long the in-laws should visit, and what kind of car you need/can afford/is safe enough for your precious new future genius.



I've seen it first hand. Kids change everything. My life is friggin' sweet as it is - why would I want to "change everything?" Heck, I don't want to change ANYthing.

Tell women the truth? You don't say. Some of us look tired, shredded, and miserable because of life and the only bright spot is the kids!
I have one child and never lost control of my bladder... Not even at ten days past my due date. That was five years ago. I have no stretch marks after carrying a baby that weighed in at over nine pounds. I am proud of my ****s because they provided for my daughter. They have never sagged. The big guy was psyched that they got bigger during my pregnancy and stayed bigger. Oh yeah.... That's bad, right?
Sorry, your post pissed me off and your words make it sound like you are somehow offended by women that have given birth. Don't you ever think that women go into it not knowing the changes we are going to go through. Since we are equal to our male counterparts it's a choice we are happy to make.

 

[kombat]

Melana, I'm happy for you, but there are plenty of examples where reality did NOT live up to the promise.

 

[Beernik]

You know what I wish someone had told me before having our daughter?

"Having kids means 12 more years of doing homework."

And it's like whack-a-mole. I get the math grade up, the spelling grade drops. I get the spelling grade up and the creative writing grade drops.

 

[BrerRabbitBrew]

Having kids is a little like brewing beer. It can be hard, frustrating, a lot of work, totally worth it, and someone will always tell you you're doing it wrong.

 

[DrunkleJon]

I agree with Creamy that kids a schriveled red monkey looking creatures when born. Then for the next year or so smell like spoiled milk and poo. They keep you up, try your patience and can be all around repulsive (using a diaper as a kangaroo pouch? no thanks). But they can be cute, and as bad as they can be when they are good they are the polar opposite. I have no kids, but would like one or two eventually.

Having kids is a polarizing topic. It isnt for some. Maybe that is an inbuilt population control method now that we have managed to defeat or make survivable a lot diseases and conditions that used to be fatal. Heck I have a friend who swore that she never wanted to have kids. She had a rotten childhood and still hates her mother. She found she was pregnant and since having said child has become all doting mother over him. She even remarks on how cute her kid is and how disgusted she is with herself for feeling that attachment. You never know. I am not saying those who are anti-having children should have kids. But I am also saying to not look down on others for prioritizing their lives towards their kids. Heck, I would hope that parents would prioritize the raising and nurturing of their impressionable children over going out and having fun.

Kids may not always be a choice, but once you have them, you really ought to raise them to be good examples for others who may want them.

 

[kombat]

Kids may not always be a choice

It's 2015. Kids are always a choice.

That said, I agree with the rest of your post; great perspective on a hot-button topic.

 

[DrunkleJon]

It's 2015. Kids are always a choice.

That said, I agree with the rest of your post; great perspective on a hot-button topic.

Well, some who want to have kids (their own) are incapable, and some who dont accidents happen. Religion and beliefs or even health could actually prevent termination.

Consider that hair thoroughly split. (and since I dont use them imagine a smiley face of some sort here)

 

[hunter_le five]

Well this thread is every bit as fun as when it started.

 

[TheDudeLebowski]

Congratulations Creamy. The internet was created for open dialogue, respect and discussion between fellow man. You've succeeded in ruining the internet. Thanks.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

Anyone want to hear about my son's reaction to pea puree?

 

[fuzzy2133]

Anyone want to hear about my son's reaction to pea puree?

Only if you captured the moment with a picture!

 

[CreamyGoodness]

As of this weekend, my son is walking. I have told everyone I can think of, and now I am on to random people on the train. Y'know what, stranger on the subway? If you don't want to hear about my kid's childhood milestones you would do like everyone else and wear earbuds on public transportation. I have no mercy for you.

 

[Rhumbline]

Just please do everyone a favor and pass on the "stick figure family" decal affixed to the back windshield of your new mini-van.

Hey, wait a minute. We design a "beer family" sticker...

Maybe a stout, a saison, and an IPA?