Hop substitution question for Saison

[EvilGnome6]

I'm planning on brewing this Petite Saison d'Ete recipe from NB:

Fermentables

    * 4.5 lbs. Belgian Pilsner
    * 2.75 lbs. German Vienna
    * 0.75 lbs. Torrefied Wheat

Boil Additions

    * 1 oz. East Kent Goldings (60 min)
    * 0.25 oz. Styrian Goldings (10 min)
    * 0.25 oz. Saaz (10 min)
    * 0.75 oz. Styrian Goldings (2 min)
    * 0.75 oz. Saaz (2 min)

If you choose liquid yeast

    * Wyeast #3711 French Saison Yeast

I'm just wondering if it would make much difference to substitute the East Kent Goldings with Styrian Goldings as the bittering hop. I have plenty of the Styrians on hand but none of the Kent.

 

[toman8r]

That should be fine, I doubt you would be able to tell the difference.

 

[EvilGnome6]

Thanks. If all goes well I'll brew it up this weekend.

 

[MattHollingsworth]

+1 on it not mattering. Just keep your IBUs the same.

 

[sp1365]

Since it is the bittering addition you should be fine.

 

[Scimmia]

You will get some flavor from the 60 minute addition, and Styrian Goldings is actually quite a bit different than EKG. It's related to Fuggles, not Goldings, believe it or not.

 

[MattHollingsworth]

You will get some flavor from the 60 minute addition, and Styrian Goldings is actually quite a bit different than EKG. It's related to Fuggles, not Goldings, believe it or not.

It's not *related* to Fuggles, it *is* Fuggles, but it's grown in Slovenija.

 

[MattHollingsworth]

http://www.basicbrewing.com/radio/pdf/TheBreeding_Varieties.pdf

Styrian Golding (Austira, Slovenian Republic): In the former country of Yugoslavia, hops were grown in two districts, one near Lake Bled in the Savinja Valley and the other in Backa near Zagreb. Styrian (Steirer) Golding are grown on the border of Austria and the Savinja Valley.

By genetics they are true English Fuggles, which are grown seedless. Hence, they are slightly higher in alpha acid content, ranging from 4.0-6.0%. The beta acids are very similar to Fuggles, 2.0-3.0% and the cohumulone is 28%.

The Savinja Valley sufferend badly in the early 1930s from a disease which devastated their (German origin) aroma cultivars. This resulted in a visit to England to obtain an English aroma variety. They thought they had selected a Golding, so they called it Styrian or Steirer Golding unaware it was a Fuggle they had selected. This variety is being used extensively in the UK as a dry-hopping variety.

 

[Potter1]

Man, that looks good. I think i found out what i'm going to do with the new pack of french saison from wyeast

 

[EvilGnome6]

Man, that looks good. I think i found out what i'm going to do with the new pack of french saison from wyeast

I brewed this one up last year and it was fantastic. 3711 took it from 1.048 to 1.002.

 

[JaimeTheLimey]

That yeast is a workhorse. It produced my lowest gravity to date.