I had one of these tonight tat the new bar I told you all about before ( my first on the 85 beer challenge) It was better than I expected. I thought I was gonna get something that would turn my mouth inside out! I would actually drink this if it wasn't $12.75 a bottle.....although one was about enough......................I also had a little kings ( big variation I know but after the hop stoopid I wanted something small) I could not believe how much it smelled like weak skunk urine. Tasted OK but reminded me of my dogs when they get into a skunk.