Hop combinations to avoid!!!

[ylpaul2000]

I find summit to be a bit funky (garlic and onion) I tried a few late addition charges laced with Amarillo and my IPA turned out like a skunky pizza beer! I won't do that again.

 

[Xpertskir]

I'll second that...summit and anything is not a good combo for my palate.

 

[Tantalus]

Any opinions on Citra/Cascade combo? Seems like it should work well to me but I'm brewing an APA in the next week or so, so I'd like to be sure.

 

[ylpaul2000]

Both citrusy, they should play together nicely. I've used them together before with great results.

 

[daddude7]

I tried Mt. Hood for aroma three or four times, and decided to stop trying. Maybe I just don't like it.

 

[jageraholic]

Chinook is a little harsh for my taste. I do an Arrogant Bastard clone with Columbus that I really love. Recently I went with Tasty's recipe and used Chinook in place of the Columbus. While it is still a very good beer, I prefer the Columbus version I came up with better. Chinook is very present on the finish, whereas the Columbus is more up front with a malty finish.

I really enjoy Simcoe and have not tried it with Columbus yet, but that is definitely in the plans for a future brew. I'll use the Columbus for bittering and the Simcoe at 15 minutes and in dry hop. Probably with MO and a dash of light crystal malt. Should be a great sessionable beer.

Rehashing this thread a little bit...mind sharing your arrogant bastard clone. It is my favorite beer and I havent had luck yet with a clone.

 

[maltoftheearth]

I had a columbus/simcoe dry-hopped IPA that I could not drink.

I can completely understand this, don't have to taste it to agree.

 

[DPBISME]

I had a columbus/simcoe dry-hopped IPA that I could not drink.

When I get beers like this I just put them aside and let them age out... so the hop bitterness just about goes away...

Then again I am not all that fond fo a lot of the West Coast "piney" beers...

I mean if I want to chew on a pine tree I can do it in my front yeard for free..

 

[TimBrewz]

Its really interesting to hear what people like and dislike. One of the top IPAs out there, Green Flash, is all Simcoe/Columbus.I love it, and use those hops all the time. But a lot of people just do not like those hops. I like Mt. Hood in lots of beers-its pretty neutral and adds a little noble character. Glad we have so many hop varieties to play with!

 

[MMJfan]

Any opinions on Citra/Cascade combo? Seems like it should work well to me but I'm brewing an APA in the next week or so, so I'd like to be sure.

One of my favorite IPA's I brew starts off with Chinook for bittering and then the rest is a combo of Citra and Cascade. IMO, they work VERY well together!

 

[MMJfan]

I have not had that experience. I make an India Red Ale that has lots of dark crystal and uses Simcoe, Amarillo and Cascade. It is great.

Though I have had people make the beer with Chinook, and not like it, so maybe some of the NW "c" hops would clash with dark crystal.

Agreed! I make a hoppy American Red Ale that uses Columbus, Chinook, Cascade and Citra and it is AWESOME! :rockin:

 

[maltoftheearth]

Reading the comments on here about Perle ... I did an Alt bier exclusively with Perle and I loved the bitterness and aroma but it added a mint-like finish that was really odd. Particularly unsettling once I could identify exactly what it was.

I could see it used as a lesser addition with other Noble hops varieties, though.

 

[CrazyBastardsBrew]

sorry lil off topic from where this has been going but im working on a quad recipe and the recipe im basing it off of uses some pretty bland hops in my opinion(challenger and east kent goldings) which from what i have read dont really fit the flavor profile of what i think of when you think belgian quad... i was wondering seeing as i dont have any experience with any of these hops if anyone has opinions or experience they can help me with i wanted to maybe replace these hops with something more like perle(german) or brewers gold(german) or maybe even fruggle(u.s) anyone have any experience with any of these or maybe pairing tips with other hops any and all input is appreciated...

 

[apeet]

I used Liberty and Cascade in a Pale Ale. I would not recommend it at all. It was just weird.

 

[TimBrewz]

Yep,exactly my experience with Liberty. As I stated elsewhere on this thread, Liberty just does not blend well with citrusy hops.

I used Liberty and Cascade in a Pale Ale. I would not recommend it at all. It was just weird.

 

[pm5k00]

sorry lil off topic from where this has been going but im working on a quad recipe and the recipe im basing it off of uses some pretty bland hops in my opinion(challenger and east kent goldings) which from what i have read dont really fit the flavor profile of what i think of when you think belgian quad... i was wondering seeing as i dont have any experience with any of these hops if anyone has opinions or experience they can help me with i wanted to maybe replace these hops with something more like perle(german) or brewers gold(german) or maybe even fruggle(u.s) anyone have any experience with any of these or maybe pairing tips with other hops any and all input is appreciated...

I would either use a noble variety (or an American noble breed hop like sterling, mt hood, etc...) for an authentic Belgian, or citrusy American hops for sonething a little different.

 

[rhys333]

Has anyone tried combining Columbus and Hallertauer? I'm doing a non-traditional hoppy sauson tomorrow and considering 1.5 oz of each at flameout.