Fresh Squeezed IPA (Deschutes Inspired)

[plankbr]

I'm using beersmith to punch in the numbers and keep my recipes and it calculates the IBU's at 64 and that's with putting the FWH addition in as a 20min boil addition which I understand is common for translating the FWH IBU's. With the Nugget as a 60min addition the IBU's jump up to 80. How did you guys figure the IBU's for this beer around 50?

Here is the recipe I have on BrewersFriend. The FWH is substituted as a 20 min addition 'left' in the boil. It calculates the FWH of Nugget as 13.9 IBU's:
http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/72500/fresh-squeezed-ipa

 

[olotti]

Bottled almost 2 weeks ago its at perfect carbonation I moved the rest of the bottles to the basement and some to the fridge. Its dangerously drinkable at 6.8% and I get nice smooth bitterness, now I see how the fwh works, with nice sweetness and great fruit and that hit of grapefruit from the mosaic. The nose is huge, can smell it once the bottle is opened. Should b getting some of the real thing soon to compare but this is a great beer whether an exact clone or not.

 

[olotti]

Took a bottle to my lhbs tonight and 4 guys there tried this and all were blown away by it!!!!! They all commented on the huge citrus nose and grapefruity taste it had I def get that real hit of grapefruit and juiciness. Does everyone else get that real grapefruit hit on the palate? ? I don't get alot of the citra pineapple on the taste but it come through in the nose for sure.

 

[plankbr]

This has to be the best IPA recipe I have constructed so far. I simply love the flavor. I'm glad you are liking it so much!

 

[olotti]

This has to be the best IPA recipe I have constructed so far. I simply love the flavor. I'm glad you are liking it so much!

Thank you for posting this. I should have some of the real thing soon and I'll be interested in the comparison. Either way as the guys at the LHBS said this is a keeper.

 

[plankbr]

Thank you for posting this. I should have some of the real thing soon and I'll be interested in the comparison. Either way as the guys at the LHBS said this is a keeper.

Please let me know when you can compare. Definitely interested. I know they use CC75 and I use CC60.

 

[FreddyMar3]

This went over huge at my wedding. It was the one of the first beers to kick and I had more of it than any other of the styles I made. mine didn't come out quite like the real thing but still was very tasty.

 

[FreddyMar3]

Another update… I just got back some scores from the DE state fair homebrew competition. This beer got 38/39, which I was pretty pleased with. I was on a time crunch and had foaming issues with my kegs. Ended up bottling it the ghetto way with a length of tube and picnic tap instead of my bottling gun. Will be interesting to see what notes that have on the carbonation when I see the sheets tonight.

 

[plankbr]

Another update… I just got back some scores from the DE state fair homebrew competition. This beer got 38/39, which I was pretty pleased with. I was on a time crunch and had foaming issues with my kegs. Ended up bottling it the ghetto way with a length of tube and picnic tap instead of my bottling gun. Will be interesting to see what notes that have on the carbonation when I see the sheets tonight.

That's friggin awesome! Congrats!

 

[FreddyMar3]

That's friggin awesome! Congrats!

Thanks! And thanks for the recipe. I have two bottles left that were filled properly with the gun once I got the beer flowing correctly. I'm debating whether I should hold off and try to enter them into the next comp or drink them...

 

[olotti]

I've had 5 diff people try this from friends to the LHBS guys and some customers that were in the store and everyone of them are literally blown away by this beer, the reaction I get which I feel the same, is that if this had a label and was in a store they all would buy it hands down. It's an awesome recipe. I had a four pack of the real thing sent to me and should get it in the next couple days, I can't wait to A/B it to this clone recipe. Either way even if it's not exact this is a winner hands down and will always be a staple recipe for me.

 

[olotti]

So I got my 4 pack of the Real deal Fresh Squeezed today and had to A/B it to the clone. My wife and I both hands down chose this recipe over the real thing. Much better nose and pronounced flavor and I bottled my batch prob 1 month ago. The real deal was amazingly clear and had a touch more malt/sweetness to it I'm guessing bump up the mash in temp and it would be spot on, I hit the FG of 1.010 as the recipe suggests so maybe it's just a fact of the HB being alot fresher. I'm going to do another A/B test after the real bottles have had a week of fridge time and see what happens. Either way this recipe is amazing.

 

[millie]

Can someone post an extract version of this recipe?

 

[kcmobrewer]

Try www.brewersfriend.com

I bet there is a calculator on there to convert it...


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[olotti]

Drinking my second of the real deal Fresh Squeezed and it definitely has a more malt presence, actually seemed real malt forward the first few drinks then by the halfway point the malt and hops started to become better intertwined. I'd def say Deschutes mashes at a higher temp to bring out the malt sweetness or uses more Crystal in the grain to interplay with the Citra/Mosaic tropical, orange, juiciness of the hops but I still like this recipe better as I like my IPA's drier to make the flavor of the hops more pronounced. I've handed this clone off to prob 10 diff people from friends to guys at the LHBS and all have said if it was bottled on the shelf in a store they'd buy it regularly hands down. Yeah this is a winner recipe.

 

[te-wa]

did it again. got about an hour left in the boil. good, good stuff cometh.

 

[mjc999]

Drinking my second of the real deal Fresh Squeezed and it definitely has a more malt presence, actually seemed real malt forward the first few drinks then by the halfway point the malt and hops started to become better intertwined. I'd def say Deschutes mashes at a higher temp to bring out the malt sweetness or uses more Crystal in the grain to interplay with the Citra/Mosaic tropical, orange, juiciness of the hops but I still like this recipe better as I like my IPA's drier to make the flavor of the hops more pronounced. I've handed this clone off to prob 10 diff people from friends to guys at the LHBS and all have said if it was bottled on the shelf in a store they'd buy it regularly hands down. Yeah this is a winner recipe.

Just (last night) had my first pint that has been conditioning for a few weeks and I agree it has a very malt forward presence. I don't usually care for that in an IPA, but it was actually vey tasty and balanced the bitterness well.

Really good beer.

 

[Kealia]

I'm using beersmith to punch in the numbers and keep my recipes and it calculates the IBU's at 64 and that's with putting the FWH addition in as a 20min boil addition which I understand is common for translating the FWH IBU's. With the Nugget as a 60min addition the IBU's jump up to 80. How did you guys figure the IBU's for this beer around 50?

Here is the recipe I have on BrewersFriend. The FWH is substituted as a 20 min addition 'left' in the boil. It calculates the FWH of Nugget as 13.9 IBU's:
http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/72500/fresh-squeezed-ipa

I think I'm not "getting this" either.
I just plugged in the numbers for a 5.5G batch (using half the amount of the original recipe. I have to drop the Nugget FWH addition to 1/4oz to get it down to 13.9 IBUs. For those doing 5G batches, did you use 1/2oz and FWH?

(And what the heck am I missing in BeerSmith that isn't doing that calculation right?)

 

[Kealia]

*bump*

 

[plankbr]

I think I'm not "getting this" either.
I just plugged in the numbers for a 5.5G batch (using half the amount of the original recipe. I have to drop the Nugget FWH addition to 1/4oz to get it down to 13.9 IBUs. For those doing 5G batches, did you use 1/2oz and FWH?

(And what the heck am I missing in BeerSmith that isn't doing that calculation right?)

Try this: scratch the 'idea' of the 20 minute thing. Use a FWH of nugget instead of the 60 minute addition. That's all. Keep the other hop additions the same. Plug this recipe into brewersfriend (free account) and see how your number compare to Beersmith.

 

[Kealia]

Thanks for the reply as I'm hoping to brew this soon.

For clarity, I ignored any comment about a 20-minute addition and listed the Nugget at 1/2oz FWH and BeerSmith kicked out 27.7 IBUs.

But if you, or anybody else can say that they brewed a 5G batch of this using 1/2oz Nugget for FWH and it turned out right I'll gladly do it that way.

 

[plankbr]

Thanks for the reply as I'm hoping to brew this soon.

For clarity, I ignored any comment about a 20-minute addition and listed the Nugget at 1/2oz FWH and BeerSmith kicked out 27.7 IBUs.

But if you, or anybody else can say that they brewed a 5G batch of this using 1/2oz Nugget for FWH and it turned out right I'll gladly do it that way.

It's how I brew it every time.

 

[Kealia]

So it is said, and so it shall be done.

Thanks. :rockin:

 

[grizzly2378]

Brewing a 5 gallon partial mash of Fresh Squeezed this weekend. Really hoping it turns out well since Fresh Squeezed is my favorite IPA. It'll be my first brew using my just-finished temp controlled keezer for fermentation. Looking forward to being able to dial in the ferm temp and not worry about ice baths!


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[grizzly2378]

Oh, and if anyone's curious, here's my partial mash recipe. Haven't brewed it yet, so it may need some tweaking depending on how this turns out.

5.5 lbs Rahr 2-row
0.75 lb Munich 10L
0.5 lb Caramel 80L
4 oz Flaked Wheat

Mash at 152 for 60 min.

2.5 lbs. Light DME @ 60
2.5 lbs. Light DME @ 15

1 oz Nugget @ 60
1 oz Citra @ 15
1 oz Mosaic @ 15
1 oz Citra @ 0
1 oz Citra for dry hopping

Wyeast 1056, will be making a 2L starter
Ferm @ 65 degrees

From Brewer's Friend, the stats:
OG - 1.066
FG - 1.016
ABV - 6.48%
IBU - 59.43
SRM - 9.19

Some notes/explanations:
--Deschutes' site says they use Crystal/Caramel 75. Used 80 because that's what I could get. Not sure what the target SRM is, but 9 seems reasonable. Not so much worried about color as I am about taste.
--DME additions are split to get the IBUs right.
--Included flaked wheat for head retention and because I have some lying around.
--The numbers assume 60% partial mash efficiency. In the few partial mashes I've done, I've come out within a point or two of the target OG based off of 60% efficiency.
--The projected numbers come out right at what Deschutes lists on their website...hopefully the taste is close too!

 

[grizzly2378]

For those that have brewed this before, what was your total time in primary/secondary (if you did secondary) before you bottled/kegged? Mine's been in primary for just over a week now. Looks like fermentation has settled down, krausen has dropped. Plan on taking a gravity reading tonight and then again this weekend. I guess the question is, if the SG is stable after two weeks, is there any benefit to letting it sit longer before dry hopping, or is 3 weeks total (2 weeks primary, 1 week dry hop...which I'll do in primary) sufficient to get it into bottles as "fresh" as possible?

 

[plankbr]

I would dry hop it on day 10 for ~3-5 days then proceed to your cold crashing / bottling process. ~2-3 weeks in the bottle and she's ready to guzzle!

 

[grizzly2378]

I would dry hop it on day 10 for ~3-5 days then proceed to your cold crashing / bottling process. ~2-3 weeks in the bottle and she's ready to guzzle!

Thanks!

Just took my first gravity reading and it's down to 1.010. Projected was 1.016, so I've got about an extra percentage point of ABV now. The sample tastes and smells awesome, though. Can't wait to see what it's like after the dry hopping. This is shaping up to be my best brew yet (knock on wood)!


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[MrSnacks]

I tried this beer for the first time, fresh on tap: tasted like pinapple skittles! Blech. Is there something I'm missing?

 

[jammin]

Actually I have. I'm in a coop of ~15 people and we make 2 x 20 gallon batches each month. They brewed this recipe and we did equal parts of Mosaic and Citra dryhop. While it wasn't bad, I was a little turned off due to it deviating what I was actually trying to achieve. If I were to modify this recipe again, the only thing I may do differently is to dry hop with more Citra, maybe 1 more oz. Not both Mosaic + Citra. It takes away from the 'Fresh Squeezed' aroma you get from the Citra.

im not surprised. mosaic is best used as an accent hop, not in the star role. i bet if brewed it with a 2:1 Citra:Mosaic it would rock!