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[furley]

Ok, this is actually ******* dangerous, i just posted this same quote on my FB wall. This is effectively creating a way of sneaking Category Captains in for chains and places that aren't dedicated to Craft, and that is not a good thing.

thanks for clarifying because the original quote just sounds like "sales guys are going to use technology to determine sales numbers".... as they should have always been doing anyways.

 

[kodt]

Dem Three Floyds plans though...

http://www.munster.org/egov/documents/1518216341_93204.pdf

 

[user 306237]

Dem Three Floyds plans though...

http://www.munster.org/egov/documents/1518216341_93204.pdf

Forget a Loop/O'Hare express train - we need something to drop us off here.

Also, where is the roller coaster? It's practically screaming for a ******* roller coaster.

 

[JRBecks]

Dem Three Floyds plans though...

http://www.munster.org/egov/documents/1518216341_93204.pdf

JEEZUS this is awful.... it looks like a brand new campus for some sort of TECH college

 

[danbanana]

Dem Three Floyds plans though...

http://www.munster.org/egov/documents/1518216341_93204.pdf

Pff. At least be honest and show what it will look like after Dark Lord Day:

 

[RedCoffee]

Pff. At least be honest and show what it will look like after Dark Lord Day:

That's all I can see when I look at this. "But how will it look covered in gravel, mud, and pee?"

 

[Alum]

Hachi Machi

 

[JRBecks]

Half Acre bringing the fire

 

[Dunt1]

Dem Three Floyds plans though...

http://www.munster.org/egov/documents/1518216341_93204.pdf

Least metal brewery on the planet

 

[Dunt1]

Hachi Machi

 

[middlebrow]

Least metal brewery on the planet

I mean its sorta bauhaus/mies van der rohe which is german making it like metal adjacent. but ya, take that **** to silicon valley, we like our breweries in industrial parks were we can ****, screw and throw up behind like factories or warehouses. (says the guy moving into an old camera store thats a brick rectangle)

 

[beeraficionado]

VSOJ is on at the Brewpub

 

[Kentucky1]

VSOJ is on at the Brewpub

Could you fill a corner of a ziplock snack bag and save it for me until this weekend? Thanks!

 

[beeraficionado]

Could you fill a corner of a ziplock snack bag and save it for me until this weekend? Thanks!

Done. It's duck-taped under Table #17.

 

[mishuggah]

VSOJ is on at the Brewpub

 

[Unbreakabolt]

VSOJ is on at the Brewpub

I guess I have to go get a card at steel petal press now on the way home. . .

 

[Dunt1]

 

[vav1]

If anyone is interested in further discussion on the Category Captains stuff it spilled over into a really interesting discussion on my Facebook wall, which is completely open so we don't have to be friends for you to read it.

 

[Gonzoillini1]

If anyone is interested in further discussion on the Category Captains stuff it spilled over into a really interesting discussion on my Facebook wall, which is completely open so we don't have to be friends for you to read it.

Loved reading Michael Roper's responses (guy who owns Hopleaf) as I've often wondered about the taproom / brewpub dynamic vs. dedicated beer bars. I think it is well documented that I greatly prefer going to the source and talking to the folks who are serving / producing the product vs. going to a place that is "reselling" it as a retail beer bar. However, this isn't to speak ill of beer bars, it's just a reflection of how I like to spend my spare time.

In New York last year with lurchingbeast I greatly preferred to check out the beer bar scene (Fools Gold, Blind Tiger, Gingerman, Rattle & Hum, Torst, etc...), but we still ended up hitting at least a couple of breweries (Other Half / and one that served cocktails on draft that is escaping me at the moment). However, I think I enjoyed the beer bars more up in that region as I wasn't familiar with a majority of the breweries, and I preferred choice over a selection of a particular brewery for the most part.

I'm a huge proponent of the small brewery for a localized neighborhood model, but I never really thought about the externalities of that model for the beer bar owner. I wonder what the owners of Bavarian Lodge would say compared to places in the city as I feel like they haven't felt any hit at all because of their stellar kitchen.

 

[vav1]

Loved reading Michael Roper's responses (guy who owns Hopleaf) as I've often wondered about the taproom / brewpub dynamic vs. dedicated beer bars. I think it is well documented that I greatly prefer going to the source and talking to the folks who are serving / producing the product vs. going to a place that is "reselling" it as a retail beer bar. However, this isn't to speak ill of beer bars, it's just a reflection of how I like to spend my spare time.

In New York last year with lurchingbeast I greatly preferred to check out the beer bar scene (Fools Gold, Blind Tiger, Gingerman, Rattle & Hum, Torst, etc...), but we still ended up hitting at least a couple of breweries (Other Half / and one that served cocktails on draft that is escaping me at the moment). However, I think I enjoyed the beer bars more up in that region as I wasn't familiar with a majority of the breweries, and I preferred choice over a selection of a particular brewery for the most part.

I'm a huge proponent of the small brewery for a localized neighborhood model, but I never really thought about the externalities of that model for the beer bar owner. I wonder what the owners of Bavarian Lodge would say compared to places in the city as I feel like they haven't felt any hit at all because of their stellar kitchen.

Michael is one of my heroes. I learn something every time he opens his mouth.

 

[trickytunadicky]

Michael is one of my heroes. I learn something every time he opens his mouth.

Same. Definitely need to make it out there again soon. Maybe Sunday if I feel motivated. I was reading an article about him a while back and was blown away at how much of an impact he has had on my party life. He opened the first club I ever went to, he served me my first truly spectacular mead (okay one of his employees, circa 2006), probably my first couple of great lambics, too. And those moule frites!

 

[user 306237]

Michael is one of my heroes. I learn something every time he opens his mouth.

Then you’re going to love this (if you haven’t seen it already):
http://fooditor.com/living-bubble-chicago-restaurant-industry-2018/

Really great discussion among a handful of key restaurant operators in Chicago - Michael, one of the BOKA partners and another 25-year restaurant vet, Scott Worsham (the who once said this: “We do some great things in Chicago in the food world. One of them is that we do dark rooms and pork and bourbon very, very well here“).

 

[Dunt1]

Michael is one of my heroes. I learn something every time he opens his mouth.

One of the truly inspirational voices in Chicago beer.

 

[Alum]

Then you’re going to love this (if you haven’t seen it already):
http://fooditor.com/living-bubble-chicago-restaurant-industry-2018/

Really great discussion among a handful of key restaurant operators in Chicago - Michael, one of the BOKA partners and another 25-year restaurant vet, Scott Worsham (the who once said this: “We do some great things in Chicago in the food world. One of them is that we do dark rooms and pork and bourbon very, very well here“).

Great read. Thank you for posting.

 

[vav1]

Then you’re going to love this (if you haven’t seen it already):
http://fooditor.com/living-bubble-chicago-restaurant-industry-2018/

Really great discussion among a handful of key restaurant operators in Chicago - Michael, one of the BOKA partners and another 25-year restaurant vet, Scott Worsham (the who once said this: “We do some great things in Chicago in the food world. One of them is that we do dark rooms and pork and bourbon very, very well here“).

I hadn't seen this yet. It's nice to see this discussion with these voices too. I'm still peeling the onion of this industry myself.

 

[user 306237]

I hadn't seen this yet. It's nice to see this discussion with these voices too. I'm still peeling the onion of this industry myself.

The 2017 conversation linked to at the start (TALKING RESTAURANTS IN 2017 WITH KEVIN BOEHM AND JASON HAMMEL) is also interesting - especially when you think about what was a big concern in 2017 vs 2018.

 

[Lansman]

Dem Three Floyds plans though...

http://www.munster.org/egov/documents/1518216341_93204.pdf

Completely unrealistic depiction of a place I will attend once before saying that 'I miss the old FFF when we were treated like **** and they actually really didn't give a **** - who are these clean-cut people who barely look of legal age pretending to like/know about beer' (looking at you establishment formerly known as Goose Clybourn).

1. No one is overweight in any of these pictures.
2. No one is looking on their phone in any of these pictures.
3. Cars and overall grounds lacking in pollution dust that accumulates after being in area for longer than one hour.
4. Greenery as shown will last approximately 48 hours after initial soft open.
5. Tough to tell but there are too many people enjoying non-hazy beer.
6. There is only one neckbeard pictured.
7. If you were to put a picture of 'normal looking successful moderately sized craft brewery' in the dictionary, this would be the picture accompanying the definition. Might want to consider updating that motto.
8. Nick must really like the Lord of the Rings because this looks like the ******* Shire.
9. There are parking spots open right up front on a seemingly nice looking day. This will never happen.
10. Distinct and clear lack of lines and people shouting at you to NOT LINE UP AT THE BAR and that you have an hour and a half left until your table is ready.

On the other hand, the bartender looks miserable, so that's pretty accurate, and there is fire, so, metal.

 

[trickytunadicky]

Completely unrealistic depiction of a place I will attend once before saying that 'I miss the old FFF when we were treated like **** and they actually really didn't give a **** - who are these clean-cut people who barely look of legal age pretending to like/know about beer' (looking at you establishment formerly known as Goose Clybourn).

1. No one is overweight in any of these pictures.
2. No one is looking on their phone in any of these pictures.
3. Cars and overall grounds lacking in pollution dust that accumulates after being in area for longer than one hour.
4. Greenery as shown will last approximately 48 hours after initial soft open.
5. Tough to tell but there are too many people enjoying non-hazy beer.
6. There is only one neckbeard pictured.
7. If you were to put a picture of 'normal looking successful moderately sized craft brewery' in the dictionary, this would be the picture accompanying the definition. Might want to consider updating that motto.
8. Nick must really like the Lord of the Rings because this looks like the ******* Shire.
9. There are parking spots open right up front on a seemingly nice looking day. This will never happen.
10. Distinct and clear lack of lines and people shouting at you to NOT LINE UP AT THE BAR and that you have an hour and a half left until your table is ready.

On the other hand, the bartender looks miserable, so that's pretty accurate, and there is fire, so, metal.

11. At least they kept the mud wrestling pit?

 

[Hopping Tiger]

Whatever happened to that weird liquor thing FFF was going to do a couple of years ago? Did that come and go? Never happen? Is it here and I am clueless?

 

[middlebrow]

Completely unrealistic depiction of a place I will attend once before saying that 'I miss the old FFF when we were treated like **** and they actually really didn't give a **** - who are these clean-cut people who barely look of legal age pretending to like/know about beer' (looking at you establishment formerly known as Goose Clybourn).

1. No one is overweight in any of these pictures.
2. No one is looking on their phone in any of these pictures.
3. Cars and overall grounds lacking in pollution dust that accumulates after being in area for longer than one hour.
4. Greenery as shown will last approximately 48 hours after initial soft open.
5. Tough to tell but there are too many people enjoying non-hazy beer.
6. There is only one neckbeard pictured.
7. If you were to put a picture of 'normal looking successful moderately sized craft brewery' in the dictionary, this would be the picture accompanying the definition. Might want to consider updating that motto.
8. Nick must really like the Lord of the Rings because this looks like the ******* Shire.
9. There are parking spots open right up front on a seemingly nice looking day. This will never happen.
10. Distinct and clear lack of lines and people shouting at you to NOT LINE UP AT THE BAR and that you have an hour and a half left until your table is ready.

On the other hand, the bartender looks miserable, so that's pretty accurate, and there is fire, so, metal.

if it truly wants to be a dictionary based brewery, that interior better have some Edison bulbs, reused staves and a mix between dark woods and cold stainless.