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[user 306237]

Can I trade it?

Sadly, trade value is minimal, if any.

More impresssive, though just as un-tradeable, I suspect, are the bottles of '10 Matilda they have for sale (old school 22oz. bottles, $8 per).

ETA: To-go, specifically. They have a few cases stacked up in the corner with the other Goose merch.

 

[afternoondelight]

Sadly, trade value is minimal, if any.

More impresssive, though just as un-tradeable, I suspect, are the bottles of '10 Matilda they have for sale (old school 22oz. bottles, $8 per).

ETA: To-go, specifically. They have a few cases stacked up in the corner with the other Goose merch.

I'd love to grab one of these. I was aging a '13 but ended up drinking it last year. Like to see what it's developed to over five years.

 

[JulianB1]

Can I trade it?

Hand-bottle all 3 pours into a 12 oz and seal it with a wing capper, then trade it as "Bourbon County Vanilla Barleyryne".

 

[vav1]

I remember complaining about this in 2012, when the one day only Black Friday nonsense first started. Remember getting King Henry and Bourbon County in September and variants releasing when they were ******* ready? What was wrong with that?

Black Friday is ******* dumb and everyone involved in the decision to release all Bourbon County on Black Friday is an *******. The decision to turn BCS into a one day a year thing is a watershed moment on the road to the current Chicago beer shitshow.

Thanks, *********.

 

[lb304854]

 

[tinypyramids1]

Hand-bottle all 3 pours into a 12 oz and seal it with a wing capper, then trade it as "Bourbon County Vanilla Barleyryne".

last year the wife and i were at a tapping where they busted out vanilla rye and '14 barleywine. wife actually drinks bourbon county so we were both excited, but both of us despised vanilla rye because it tasted like straight vanilla extract and '14 barleywine was not nearly as good as '13 out the gate because of the stronger hop presence. she had the idea to ask the bartender for a glass and blended them, and wound up with a much better beer than either one individually.

needless to say, ISO that.

 

[Hops McG]

last year the wife and i were at a tapping where they busted out vanilla rye and '14 barleywine. wife actually drinks bourbon county so we were both excited, but both of us despised vanilla rye because it tasted like straight vanilla extract and '14 barleywine was not nearly as good as '13 out the gate because of the stronger hop presence. she had the idea to ask the bartender for a glass and blended them, and wound up with a much better beer than either one individually.

needless to say, ISO that.

15' BCBW was a little to much for the pallet out the bottle, or maybe it was the new format. I mixed the 2nd half with Death by Coconut and it was delicious.

 

[quinnsi]

the one thing i think everyone can agree on that Miller, AB, etc. do better than anyone is make consistent product. their QC is beyond reproach.

why, if they are involved here, would the beer quality fall off.. instantly?

if Goose had it dialed in for years, consistently making un-infected, delicious, widely respected beer.. why would AB come in and tank it? if they are going to bring anything to the table it will be the ability to make every batch exactly the same as the one before it.

well, that and marketing with a huge budget

This: “Costs are like fingernails. You have to cut them constantly.” - Carlos Alberto Sicupira (Owner, ABInBev)

 

[furley]

This: “Costs are like fingernails. You have to cut them constantly.” - Carlos Alberto Sicupira (Owner, ABInBev)

they have managed to make the same beer taste exactly the same for... decades. of all the things that AB does to anger craft beer lovers the last of them should be their lack of quality control

that they would crank out infected beer and release it nationwide would astonish me. 90% of their shtick is familiarity. you know what you're getting when you grab that can/bottle.. the same exact beer you had 28 years ago, 13 years ago, 3 months ago. exactly. the. same. beer.

 

[LSMroz]

Just opened a '15 BCBBW and had first taste of it this year. Holy crap is it not good. '13 was close to my favorite beer. This has a slight tart on the finish and makes me not want to drink any more. I knew some here said it wasn't good, but I didn't realize it'd be bad.

 

[Ferowcious]

they have managed to make the same beer taste exactly the same for... decades. of all the things that AB does to anger craft beer lovers the last of them should be their lack of quality control

that they would crank out infected beer and release it nationwide would astonish me. 90% of their shtick is familiarity. you know what you're getting when you grab that can/bottle.. the same exact beer you had 28 years ago, 13 years ago, 3 months ago. exactly. the. same. beer.

You're not wrong but some of those principles don't apply to what is seemingly experimental craft beer.

If you think you can compare Anheuser making the same portfolio of products and monitoring of the QC on those products for decades to craft breweries that release new products to market every month/quarter, you must be Los Delirios

 

[furley]

You're not wrong but some of those principles don't apply to what is seemingly experimental craft beer.

If you think you can compare Anheuser making the same portfolio of products and monitoring of the QC on those products for decades to craft breweries that release new products to market every month/quarter, you must be Los Delirios

i could see if this were a brand new, one-off, experimental beer but this is Bourbon County. the base has been made for quite a long time (in craft terms) and the coffee for several years.

it seems odd to me that they'd just let this one slip past the goalie

 

[RedCoffee]

i could see if this were a brand new, one-off, experimental beer but this is Bourbon County. the base has been made for quite a long time (in craft terms) and the coffee for several years.

it seems odd to me that they'd just let this one slip past the goalie

How stable has their staffing in that department been as of late? They can have a recipe for it all day long but someone has to actually do the stuff.

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The other thing is that this will have virtually zero impact on sales so why prioritize it? When I told my wife she was like "Oh so maybe next year you'll have an easy time getting it?" I thought for a minute and then said "No probably not. If anything they'll probably be raising the price and it will still sell out day one."

 

[JulianB1]

If infections are coming from places like the barrels, the coffee (how is the coffee added to BCBCS?), the bottling line at GI (I assume this is where it's bottled), etc. then factors like recipe consistency or how consistent the beer is at ABInBev's massive production facilities. No one is talking about infected 312 or Honkers.

 

[mjohnson171]

how is the coffee added to BCBCS?.

The coffee is cold brewed then blended with BCBS base.

 

[Dunt1]

I can probably take this to the unpopular beliefs thread: Hill Farmstead is just okay.

I've said it once and i'll say it again: while his house yeast is pretty spectacular, all his saisons are basically devoid of any character outside the yeast. If you did a blind taste test of his saisons against each other, I would put good money on even his most loyal fans being unable to tell them apart.

 

[Lansman]

I've said it once and i'll say it again: while his house yeast is pretty spectacular, all his saisons are basically devoid of any character outside the yeast. If you did a blind taste test of his saisons against each other, I would put good money on even his most loyal fans being unable to tell them apart.

I'M NOT ALONE!? OMFG I'M NOT ALONE! THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE.

I thought I was the only one who felt this way what with $50 one-off super special OMG rar trade bait saisons that taste...just like all the other ones...

 

[Scalzo]

I've said it once and i'll say it again: while his house yeast is pretty spectacular, all his saisons are basically devoid of any character outside the yeast. If you did a blind taste test of his saisons against each other, I would put good money on even his most loyal fans being unable to tell them apart.

I am up for this challenge
I dont mind them tasting somewhat similar, as i thoroughly enjoy all of them.

I can see you being right tho, but then again I think this line of thought would apply to most blind tastings.

 

[furley]

How stable has their staffing in that department been as of late? They can have a recipe for it all day long but someone has to actually do the stuff.

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The other thing is that this will have virtually zero impact on sales so why prioritize it? When I told my wife she was like "Oh so maybe next year you'll have an easy time getting it?" I thought for a minute and then said "No probably not. If anything they'll probably be raising the price and it will still sell out day one."

i like beer but i don't keep up on employee turnover.. even at the locals.

i'm certain that changing people out makes a difference but wouldn't more than just Bourbon County have been impacted? really not sure how to answer that. it would seem to make sense that most or even all the recipes would "suffer" some from the turnover. that said, i don't target GI for drinking... nor avoid.. but certainly am not personally invested enough to know taste variation from batch to batch.


"we" are the tastemakers. if AB/GI cranks out an "infected"/******/high priced batch next year... "we" will stop buying it and the rest will follow suit as word spreads that it sucks/isn't a good deal/isn't better than a much cheaper beer. if it doesn't make money for them and only draws publicity/crowds then it wouldn't make sense to sabotage the thing, chase off customers and kill the publicity.


maybe i'm taking crazy pills but some of this argument being made (by the wider nerd crowd) strikes me as eerily similar to diehard Packers fans crying that Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy were hired by the organization for the express purpose of undermining and destroying it from within.

it sounds...... completely insane...... from the outside looking in and even to most Packers fans but there was a diehard group of fans that truly believed it and who cling to it still in 2015.

given how 2015 turned out for the Packers................................... *barf*

 

[beersis81]

Quick question for all you Burger Antics regulars. If we were going to have a large-ish group for Sunday brunch, when should we aim to be there to minimize wait time? Is our best bet to be there right away at 11 or maybe wait until noon or 12:30 to go? We'll have a few kids with us, so we want to try and time it so they don't have to wait too long. dvelcich , any recommendations? Thank you!!

 

[Gonzoillini1]

Quick question for all you Burger Antics regulars. If we were going to have a large-ish group for Sunday brunch, when should we aim to be there to minimize wait time? Is our best bet to be there right away at 11 or maybe wait until noon or 12:30 to go? We'll have a few kids with us, so we want to try and time it so they don't have to wait too long. dvelcich , any recommendations? Thank you!!

If you are there right at 11am you should have no problem grabbing a few tables for your group.

 

[capnmike]

I'm rarely a newsbreaker (old, no social media), but on the off-chance someone just landed from a 2+ week vacation in a place where computers and cell phones don't work and came right to this post, LP Binny's has:

Taproom
- $15 flight 12oz (4 of each) of 15 reg, 14 VR, and 13 BW
- $10 bottles of 12,13,14 regular

Store
- about a case of BA Last Kiss 12oz
- Abyss
- PT5

I feel like I've heard folks asking about all of the above but probably on another site.

 

[Lansman]

LP Binny's has:

- Abyss

LOL

 

[sidetracked]

LP Binny's has:
- Abyss

LOL

New and improved! Now only 5% barrel-aged!

 

[capnmike]

LOL

See what I'm sayin'? Prolly the other site (I think there's a thread on WHEN it will HIT).

 

[SecretSquirrel]

How stable has their staffing in that department been as of late? They can have a recipe for it all day long but someone has to actually do the stuff.
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This thought came to mind as well, I was friends with a lot of people at GI all who have fled the nest so to speak...

 

[SecretSquirrel]

I've said it once and i'll say it again: while his house yeast is pretty spectacular, all his saisons are basically devoid of any character outside the yeast. If you did a blind taste test of his saisons against each other, I would put good money on even his most loyal fans being unable to tell them apart.

As someone who goes 2x a year and been going since they open I agree....

 

[furley]

LOL

is this because it sucks now?

or because it was released a while ago and Binny's just got it?

 

[danbanana]

is this because it sucks now?

Was never good?

 

[ChicagoGuy]

is this because it sucks now?

or because it was released a while ago and Binny's just got it?

Was never good?

I thought last year's was pretty tasty, so I grabbed a bottle of this year's from The Beer Temple a couple weeks ago.

This year's run-of-the-mill Abyss is apparently 50% barrel-aged (some mix of bourbon, pinot noir, and new oak), then there are two ultra-rahr versions (200 cases of each) that are 100% barrel-aged (cognac or rye barrels).