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Effin Doug.

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And for reference, here is what ASB had to say about their exploding cans.
Thanks for reaching out.

The problem is very simple: there's a TON (literally, over a metric ton in this batch) of fruit that went into this batch and if cans are not stored cold, they will referment in the can and cause the situation you are experiencing. There are no bugs, we can assure you of that. After Prickly Pear was released, we put on subsequent kettle sour cans, clear as daylight "Warning: Contains Lots of Fruit! Must Be Kept Cold At All Times" (refer to Tayberry cans, which I see are also stored in your garage).

Fine to replace your cans, send me an address and we'll mail you a 4-pack.

But I will say, I'm a bit concerned about seeing other fruited sours in your garage, and you even have some Slice Joint being stored warm as well. These beers are designed for relatively quick consumption (within a month) so that they can be enjoyed at peak freshness. They deserve to be stored cold, as well. Aroma / Flavor / Overall Quality will degrade at warm temperatures, especially when stored out for several months. The YoE beers are fine to cellar, and will actually improve with age and gain complexity over time. But not Alvarado Street beers. This is why we come out with new cans each week, so they are consumed fresh.

Hit us back with an address, and thanks for understanding where we're coming from.


It never dawned on me that they didn't fully ferment out their fruit, and therefore any can deformities will likely result in explosions due to the continued fermenting.

This makes sense though (re: fermenting fruit) because their kettle sours are very much fruit forward brews, and now I know. I wonder, then, how they manage to get certain levels of carbonation? I assume they're not canning while fermenting on the fruit, but their response leads me to believe otherwise. Maybe they maintain an extremely low temperature while adding in the fruit and force carb in the cans? That would prevent the fruit from fermenting, but pull in all the flavors?


Makes sense why that Tayberry you sent was deformed and over carbed and why something exploded in that box. It was pretty hot that week.
 
Don't place judgement. You should call him; he's a nice guy ... would enjoy a few beer shipping stories ... from someone else!

Send him my way... he'd get f'n lost in all the corn fields. We'll get him smashed on shatty corn shine. If it were worth a damn I'd send some in one of these boxes, still thinking it might make me blind.
 
Send him my way... he'd get f'n lost in all the corn fields. We'll get him smashed on shatty corn shine. If it were worth a damn I'd send some in one of these boxes, still thinking it might make me blind.

You got his email, number, and address ... scroll a few back (I think the paper away) ;)
 
HA!! @jerbrew, they clearly knew and yet still relinquished the box. Wonder how many dings you get? This is number to at least ... Perhaps three, not counting.

I need to give Doug a call, d1cks.

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My address is there so you can all test your accounts and send me beers. Best to test, you know ... Practice makes perfect and all
 
HA!! @jerbrew, they clearly knew and yet still relinquished the box. Wonder how many dings you get? This is number to at least ... Perhaps three, not counting.

I need to give Doug a call, d1cks.

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My address is there so you can all test your accounts and send me beers. Best to test, you know ... Practice makes perfect and all

Seriously!?!? Damn Doug! Lay off!! Although now I know where to send a gift box.....
 
HA!! @jerbrew, they clearly knew and yet still relinquished the box. Wonder how many dings you get? This is number to at least ... Perhaps three, not counting.

I need to give Doug a call, d1cks.

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My address is there so you can all test your accounts and send me beers. Best to test, you know ... Practice makes perfect and all


Is this to you as the shipper or to you as the recipient?
 
Is this to you as the shipper or to you as the recipient?

I shipped.

What is extremely interesting is that this box was delivered, rather... I should say it was picked up. They gave him ****, as I understand.

Another box that was not delivered was destroyed and they sent a letter to the recipient, @Thorrak, letting him know that "blah blah beer blah blah" was shipped to him but tough ****. I never got a notice on that package as the shipper.

I think the San Diego guy submitted something internally informing FedEx of the beer in the box which prompted the letter to me ... weeks later.
 
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