FEAR the Waking Dead

[ffaoe]

What annoys me in most zombie shows is that people never call the undead, zombies or realize until wayyyyy to late that there are zombies. I am fairly certain if I saw someone acting like a biter/walker I would call them a zombie.

Whenever I see on the news about the police shooting and killing someone running around naked and chewing the face off a victim a few things instantly come to mind. First, it must have been bath salts or synthetic pot, then zombies.

 

[drainbamage]

What annoys me in most zombie shows is that people never call the undead, zombies or realize until wayyyyy to late that there are zombies. I am fairly certain if I saw someone acting like a biter/walker I would call them a zombie.

The writers have explained before that in the Walking Dead universe, there is no such thing as zombie fiction, so the people have no idea what they are or how to deal with them. That's why there are so many different names (and why no one actually says "zombies") and why it takes so long for everyone to realize to go for the head shot.

It would make for a pretty boring show if, at the first sign of trouble, everyone barricades their door, breaks out their pre-stashed Zombie Apocalypse Survival Kit, and waits half an hour out until the National Guard shows up and blasts the offending zombies' heads off. The end.

 

[nutty_gnome]

In WD they seem to find infinite supplies of canned foods, ammo etc. in stores, homes - as if those areas were never affected by zombie epidemic and people just died very quickly. But in FTWD it should become clear that it would take weeks if not months for epidemic to take over, long after panic sets in, and most infrastructure shuts down.

I think it is plausible that survivors keep finding caches and supplies out in suburbia. I think the infection spreads pretty quickly so people don't have time to use their supplies - thus they are left for the survivors to find.

Anyone know how long Rick was unconscious in the WD pilot? I forget, but it wasn't all that long and the world was completely screwed well before he woke up. I think it could all happen pretty quick.

 

[55x11]

I think it is plausible that survivors keep finding caches and supplies out in suburbia. I think the infection spreads pretty quickly so people don't have time to use their supplies - thus they are left for the survivors to find.

Anyone know how long Rick was unconscious in the WD pilot? I forget, but it wasn't all that long and the world was completely screwed well before he woke up. I think it could all happen pretty quick.

From the length of his stubble and wilted flowers by his bed, I would guess about 2 weeks or less. Probably less than a week before hospital services disintegrated.

 

[MarkKF]

These peoples stupidity drives me crazy. The guy has seen it first hand yet still thinks they can be helped. The woman knows what has to be done but won't tell her daughter. And they all leave doors open and attract attention to themselves. Even it it wasn't zombies, maybe a gang of hoodlums, I would be smarter than this lot.

 

[adamranders]

These peoples stupidity drives me crazy. The guy has seen it first hand yet still thinks they can be helped. The woman knows what has to be done but won't tell her daughter. And they all leave doors open and attract attention to themselves. Even it it wasn't zombies, maybe a gang of hoodlums, I would be smarter than this lot.

My thoughts exactly

 

[ffaoe]

If these guys don't get their acts together, they will surely all die.

After Nick decided not to break into that house and walked out onto the street, it showed a plane flying overhead. The plane was flying level then suddenly banking sharply. I thought for sure it was going to go down. Unfortunately it then went to the next scene. Zombies on a plane? I think I saw something somewhere about a short 30 minute special on that scenario.

 

[nutty_gnome]

Much more compelling this evening. Bravo.

Issues:
1 - I still dislike the druggie kid, but I begrudgingly accept his acceptance of reality.
2 - If you are an uninvited guest who looks like Death warmed over in my house late at night AND you are eating my dog.... I will put you down. Double guns to the face mister!
3 - Who allows their neighbor to have a deathtrap maze? That is an eyesore and someone should have called the zoning board a long time ago. What a horse**** plot point that was.
4 - The old latino guy is bent on being strong..... no weakness for him... but he won't leverage the strength of others to elevate himself. That is a bummer. Hope he gets bitten soon.
5 - The hospital scene seemed very very legitimate. I think it was authentic. I liked that scene.

 

[Resonator]

3 - Who allows their neighbor to have a deathtrap maze? That is an eyesore and someone should have called the zoning board a long time ago. What a horse**** plot point that was.

Pretty sure that was a garden with a lot of vines and plants everywhere. I'm guessing she wasn't that great of a gardener though since most seemed dead.

If these guys don't get their acts together, they will surely all die.


After Nick decided not to break into that house and walked out onto the street, it showed a plane flying overhead. The plane was flying level then suddenly banking sharply. I thought for sure it was going to go down. Unfortunately it then went to the next scene. Zombies on a plane? I think I saw something somewhere about a short 30 minute special on that scenario.

Maybe the pilot wasn't flying at that point. Seemed like something an inexperienced person would do trying to turn.

 

[drainbamage]

If these guys don't get their acts together, they will surely all die.

The old Hispanic guy seems to have some sense of the scale of what's going down, but the main family is dangerously naive:

"Um, there's a creepy guy lurking out front...let's head over to the neighbors' and leave the back door wide open!"

"Hey man, I know we just saw the neighbor eat a floccing dog in our living room, but how dare you teach my son how to handle a gun?!"

Someone is going to end up zombie food if they don't wise up soon.

 

[ffaoe]

The old Hispanic guy seems to have some sense of the scale of what's going down, but the main family is dangerously naive:

I think the Hispanic guy had an idea of how bad things could get because he said they were from El Salvador. They had a civil war that lasted for more than a decade and raged through the 80's. Their daughter looked to be about that age, so I'm sure they fled and came to the US about that time. They would have seen how bad things can get when law begins to disintegrate.

 

[55x11]

I think the Hispanic guy had an idea of how bad things could get because he said they were from El Salvador. They had a civil war that lasted for more than a decade and raged through the 80's. Their daughter looked to be about that age, so I'm sure they fled and came to the US about that time. They would have seen how bad things can get when law begins to disintegrate.

I like the old El Salvador guy, but the rest of the episode was too full of cliches, and a bit too slow / shallow.

But a few interesting notes:
1. Hospitals will be the zombie nucleation sites, as all "sick" people will be brought there, and then infection just spreads from there.
2. A reasonable human reaction is to assume that infected people are just sick, not "dead zombies", and so killing them presents a moral quandary of sorts (what if they have the cure?). This is also probably how the infection spreads, too many people are "weak" and don't want to start killing their infected family members or neighbors.

Having said that, so far it looks like only maybe a few percent of population is infected and most people on the show have realized something is going on. So did the police/military. So how does it get to >90% infection rate that Rick has witnessed once he got out of the hospital? How does it get out of control in such dramatic fashion?

 

[Zuljin]

They put out the garbage and recycle. That shows where their mentality is toward their situation.

And what's with the lighted ceiling in the Asian's house? That was kind of neat looking. I wouldn't want it, but it looked neat.

 

[JohnSand]

I didn't watch. I'm not sure I will. The Giants/Cowboys game was exciting though.

 

[lupulinaddict]

I am getting confused on the timing. Like zuljin mentioned, they're putting out their trash cans for pickup like normal, but the night before the hospital was on fire and these dead/sick people are being shot outside? How long ago was the druggy in the hospital, it seems like at least two nights? He broke out of the hospital and shot the dealer. Then the next day she went to get the drugs from the school and I think the same night just past. So how come the kid is puking and withdrawal sweating on the coach, but has yet to shower and replace the old guys clothes he stole?

Also during the riots in the city it went from protesting police brutality to looting....ok that's realistic, but when people see other people eating police offers I think even rioters would realize the situation is out of control and run scared. I would have like to see part them running from zombies instead of trying to escape a riot, well I guess that will come so maybe too early to play that card.

The other thing I keep thinking is they should incorporate the news with it. I liked in the first episode how they used the cell phone videos, but if I see something happening like a police standoff I go turn on the tv when I get home. If this outbreak is already to the point the the military is taking control of the neighborhood, I wonder what cnn is covering around the world or locally if this is supposed to be ground zero. In the real world nothing keeps journalist away.

 

[ffaoe]

Interesting episode overall. At first I was thinking the show had really taken a step backwards with everyone living life as normal (as it can be).
The military taking all of the "undesireables" eg. guy on hospice care, depressed guy, Griselda (crushed foot), and Nick (drug addict) away makes sense as far as keeping order and disposing of any liabilities.

 

[MarkKF]

Interesting episode overall. At first I was thinking the show had really taken a step backwards with everyone living life as normal (as it can be).

The military taking all of the "undesireables" eg. guy on hospice care, depressed guy, Griselda (crushed foot), and Nick (drug addict) away makes sense as far as keeping order and disposing of any liabilities.

Yeah I didn't see the leap where the guys ex-wife started taking care of people. Then she's recruited by the Doc. Overall interesting but I doubt the soldiers would be so cavalier. They gotta know more just by rumors. I'd think they would still be on edge.

 

[LabRatBrewer]

If these guys don't get their acts together, they will surely all die.

After Nick decided not to break into that house and walked out onto the street, it showed a plane flying overhead. The plane was flying level then suddenly banking sharply. I thought for sure it was going to go down. Unfortunately it then went to the next scene. Zombies on a plane? I think I saw something somewhere about a short 30 minute special on that scenario.

Yep, sounds like your are right re: 30 minute special: http://www.inquisitr.com/2374764/th...new-spin-off-look-out-for-zombies-on-a-plane/

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Two episodes left, and so far the thing I most enjoyed has been hearing Lou Reed's "Perfect Day"

 

[LabRatBrewer]

Two episodes left, and so far the thing I most enjoyed has been hearing Lou Reed's "Perfect Day"

Interesting version:

Sorry re

 

[A2HB]

I think the last episode was somewhat boring and from a storytelling standpoint, a step backwards compared to previous episodes. The first three episodes seemed to be building towards what we know is going to happen, and this last one didn't do much to advance that story line. No zombies in sight, the main characters just walking around arguing with each other and not really doing anything, overall I felt like I could have just skipped watching this entire episode and wouldn't have missed anything.

And I'm sorry but I'm really starting to get sick of Travis and his "everything's going to be ok soon" BS. Like dude why are you so dismissive of your son and what he's seeing? He didn't even bother looking at the kids camera before he was already like "there's nothing there, it's all in your head" Come on dude, your'e not going to any kind of job or doing anything that productive with your time other than jogging around, you telling me you can't be bothered to look at what your only son is trying to show you? Like I said I'm really starting to dislike that character, and if him getting bit is the only thing that makes him see what exactly is going on then I say let it happen. Sick and tired of his denial about the situation.

We'll see how this next one goes

 

[drainbamage]

And I'm sorry but I'm really starting to get sick of Travis and his "everything's going to be ok soon" BS. Like dude why are you so dismissive of your son and what he's seeing? He didn't even bother looking at the kids camera before he was already like "there's nothing there, it's all in your head" Come on dude, your'e not going to any kind of job or doing anything that productive with your time other than jogging around, you telling me you can't be bothered to look at what your only son is trying to show you? Like I said I'm really starting to dislike that character, and if him getting bit is the only thing that makes him see what exactly is going on then I say let it happen. Sick and tired of his denial about the situation.

That's kind of what I've been thinking about his character as well. In the teaser commercial/trailer things that played before the premiere, the actor was saying something like, "Travis is an average guy just trying to do the best he can in a bad situation." No, he's in denial. The house could be on fire, and he'd be sitting there in the living room saying, "hang on guys, it might go out on its own."

The mom (Madison?) still irritates me somewhat as well, but at least she had the sense to slap the floc out of her son when she found out about the morphine.

 

[MarkKF]

The mom (Madison?) still irritates me somewhat as well, but at least she had the sense to slap the floc out of her son when she found out about the morphine.

If that was her attitude going forward I might just start to like her. But I fear it was just a momentary snap she now regrets.

 

[nutty_gnome]

I think the last episode was somewhat boring and from a storytelling standpoint, a step backwards compared to previous episodes.

I think we had to take the step to martial law at some point. It wouldn't be realistic to assume it all went to hell overnight. the original series was able to not tell this part of the story because we 'jumped' 3 weeks or so with Rick in the hospital.

I too thought it was a bit dull and, even worse, somewhat confusing. If people can get out of the fence so easily, whats stopping the z's from getting in?

I hope the z's overrun the neighborhood next week so we can go visit the hospital, collect the dope head, kill off the red shirt of the week (Griselda?), and get started towards the desert.

 

[drainbamage]

I think we had to take the step to martial law at some point. It wouldn't be realistic to assume it all went to hell overnight. the original series was able to not tell this part of the story because we 'jumped' 3 weeks or so with Rick in the hospital.

I too thought it was a bit dull and, even worse, somewhat confusing. If people can get out of the fence so easily, whats stopping the z's from getting in?

I hope the z's overrun the neighborhood next week so we can go visit the hospital, collect the dope head, kill off the red shirt of the week (Griselda?), and get started towards the desert.

Did I hear the son correctly that 9 days had passed between the arrival of the army and this week's episode? Doesn't that kind of defeat the premise of going into detail on the events prior to TWD? If Rick was in the coma for 2-3 weeks, FTWD should be nearly caught up to that point by now.

 

[Zuljin]

So. Are they taking the infirm to an infirmary or a disposal site? Is that the building with the flashing light and then the gunfire? Seems kind of dumb to do that in sight of the town.

 

[adamranders]

So not one zombie the entire episode? WTF? This show needs to sort itself out, not looking good for a second season.

 

[ffaoe]

So not one zombie the entire episode? WTF? This show needs to sort itself out, not looking good for a second season.

Hate to break the news, but they already green-lighted a second season.
http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/08/fear-the-walking-dead-renewed-for-second-season/

 

[lupulinaddict]

So. Are they taking the infirm to an infirmary or a disposal site? Is that the building with the flashing light and then the gunfire? Seems kind of dumb to do that in sight of the town.

I thought the building with the light was a survivor. I took it as the military killed off everyone outside the gates to stop the infection from spreading. The general mentioned, "you guys are the lucky ones." Madison said some of the people shot looked like they had been sick and some didn't. I thought that light person had managed to escape and was trying to communicate. Based on the previews I am assuming they are taking and using the infirm as test subjects, but I'm usually wrong going off of the previews.

 

[ffaoe]

Now that's what an episode should look like. A much better episode that in my opinion was 10X better than any previous episode.

 

[BBQB]

Who are they killing humanely at 0900?

 

[ffaoe]

Who are they killing humanely at 0900?

Good question. It is certainly going to be the ones at the school where they are detaining all those people. It may even include the people in the fenced "safe zones". We shall see. Whatever happens, the military is going to get out of there and call LA a total loss.

 

[m_c_zero]

What about the arena full of zombies? Think the guy just had to see for himself or is he planning on letting them out?

 

[agrazela]

What about the arena full of zombies? Think the guy just had to see for himself or is he planning on letting them out?

I know he'd seen the riots, but had he seen more than one or two walkers with his own eyes? I think he just had to see for himself. I read his reaction to that as, "wow, I guess there really IS a reason for martial law this time."


Hopefully in the next (last of this season, right?) episode, Travis will finally realize that this truly is the apocalypse, the gubmint ain't gonna be his nanny no more, and he's going to have to learn to take care of his own. Will he get over his gun-o-phobia?

Be interesting to see what the suave guy in the jail cell wants with drugboy.

I wonder when that high school kid from the first few episodes will re-appear.

That daughter cleans up nice...she's 18, right?

That son of Travis' is either going to get killed, get someone killed, or make a 180 degree surprise turnaround and become a hero. I know which outcome I'm voting for.


So at this point, I could maybe see another 8-episode season, spanning a couple more weeks to a month of in-show time, where they get everybody together, loot some guns, gas and supplies, and caravan the heck out of town...but after that, won't this show essentially become "Walking Dead West?" How could they drag out the "pre-Walking Dead" idea more than another season (or two at most?)

Maybe they grab a boat and head out to Catalina Island and set up a "Survivor"-style dystopian fortress?

 

[Zuljin]

It sounded like the military was going to kill everyone. I don't get that. I get killing off the sick and injured, as cold hearted as that is, but why the whole neighborhood of healthy folks? Are they trying to create a new society of government loyalists? Do they not have the supplies to defend everyone, so they want to stop potential zombies from happening?

 

[m_c_zero]

I could maybe see another 8-episode season, spanning a couple more weeks to a month of in-show time, where they get everybody together, loot some guns, gas and supplies, and caravan the heck out of town...but after that, won't this show essentially become "Walking Dead West?"

Right?

 

[nutty_gnome]

..but after that, won't this show essentially become "Walking Dead West?" How could they drag out the "pre-Walking Dead" idea more than another season (or two at most?)

I guess that is why they all haven't even left the driveway together yet. Maybe next season they will make it as far as the next neighborhood over. Oh the horrors they will find; - A 7-11 instead of a Circle-K - oh my!

If we hadn't already been indoctrinated by the TWD, this version would be cancelled after a single failed season.

 

[Zuljin]

I guess that is why they all haven't even left the driveway together yet. Maybe next season they will make it as far as the next neighborhood over. Oh the horrors they will find; - A 7-11 instead of a Circle-K - oh my!

If we hadn't already been indoctrinated by the TWD, this version would be cancelled after a single failed season.

This!

And I live in 7-11 country.

 

[slym2none]

I took it to mean the military would kill everyone behind the fence. Everyone.

Also, it has been mentioned that, at least timeline-wise, there will be a "crossover" of sorts with the regular TWD show. I am guessing somewhere near the end of that show's season1 or season 2.

 

[agrazela]

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