Fat Tire Clone

[Dude]

bummer. what's up with the stout? off flavors, or not what you wanted?

No, no "off-flavors (as in faults) per se, but it wasn't what I set out to do. I wanted a classic dry irish stout and the grain bill recipe that I used from BYO has way too much roasted barley in it. I'm going to go back to the drawing board for that.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

u use the white labs irish ale yeast? or wyeast equal?
don't you hate been a good beer plan goes bad......

 

[Dude]

u use the white labs irish ale yeast? or wyeast equal?
don't you hate been a good beer plan goes bad......

I used the WLP004.

Hey--make sure you post when your Flat Tyre is ready.

Mine is probably the best beer I've done so far. It seems like it has a depth of flavors that I haven't gotten in any of my other beers yet. I wouldn't change one thing with this recipe. I think it is a bit more bitter (as in hops) than the real Fat Tire (last time I actually had one was about 5 years ago), but that is something I like about it.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

Mine is probably the best beer I've done so far. It seems like it has a depth of flavors that I haven't gotten in any of my other beers yet. I wouldn't change one thing with this recipe. I think it is a bit more bitter (as in hops) than the real Fat Tire (last time I actually had one was about 5 years ago), but that is something I like about it.

funny you say that. i racked mine today, and it had the same color, and damn close to flavor, even though it's young. i fermented at about 66-68 for 8 days, and plan on conditioning at 58 degress for 7-10. i had a few fat tire's tonight while i grilled up some chicken and asparagus. i agree with you, it's a little more hoppy. but, i think that's gonna happen with any homebrew clone. i definatly could tatse the biscuit malt, which to me makes the fat tire. i'll let you know next weekend (i hope!).

 

[Walker]

I'm bottling mine this weekend, but I took a sample on Monday night. It's been at least 5 months since I had a real Fat Tire, but it seemed to be pretty close to the mark, though it is a tad darker than the Real Deal.

A friend is bringing me a case of fat tire from TX in a couple of weeks, so I should be able to do a real side-by-side comparison after my bottles have conditioned for 2 or 3 weeks.

Even though I can't recall what real Fat Tire tastes like, this particular bew is definately one of the 10 best I have ever made.

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

walker, you can't get new belgium beers in Raleigh?

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

walker, you can't get new belgium beers in Raleigh?

I haven't seen it around here. I thought they had a fairly limited distribution, like 5-6 states around CO?

 

[Walker]

New Belgian doesn't distribute East of the Mississippi yet. It's supposedly coming in 2006 or 2007. (though, I have heard rumors of one bar in NYC that has Fat Tire available.)

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

bummer. their 1554 aleis damn good too.

hope it gets there sooner than expected...

 

[Walker]

yeah, I know how good the stuff is. I lived in California from 1998 to August of this year, and there was one of their varieties of beer in my fridge at all times. Ah... the good old days.

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

i feel your pain bro. before we got a big liquor warehouse chain here in Beaumont last year (Spec's), we had to drive 1.5 hours to Houston to get decent beer. hence one of the reasons i started homebrewing 6 years ago!

i wish i could get all of Stone's beer here in Texas.

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

The big news here in NC is that our legislature raised the abv cap from 6% to 15% a few months ago. We're just now getting the good Belgians (not New Belgium...), big Rogues, etc. You used to have to go to VA. Most of the microbreweries are following suit with some high abv beers, as well.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

The big news here in NC is that our legislature raised the abv cap from 6% to 15% a few months ago. We're just now getting the good Belgians (not New Belgium...), big Rogues, etc. You used to have to go to VA. Most of the microbreweries are following suit with some high abv beers, as well.

rock on!
believe itor not, there are still several dry countiesin Texas, including Dallas. stupid hu?

 

[Baron von BeeGee]

rock on!
believe itor not, there are still several dry countiesin Texas, including Dallas. stupid hu?

You don't have to tell me...I lived in Dallas for a few years. Unicard member since 1995! Worked in Richardson and used to drive to the 159 encircled acres that was Buckingham to buy beer.

We have plenty of dry counties and blue laws in NC, particularly in the mountains. There is typically a Brew Thru right at the county line. I used to do a lot of whitewater kayaking and a trip back east from the Ocoee River in TN entailed crossing into NC on a divided highway and going a few hundred yards to a cut-through in the median, going back just into TN and buying beer at a c-store, hitting another cut-through in TN to go east again, and eating at a bbq joint a few miles inside NC that allowed brown bagging.

 

[Mindflux]

That flat ass tire recipe is courtesy of Hop Head on the green board (brewboard). I brewed it as my 4th batch, I believe it was. Maybe 5th. It's a bit hoppier than the original FT. Not what I'd call an accurate clone. Please note that some of the grains in the flat ass tired recipe require toasting (not hard but gives the right biscuit type flavor).

 

[God Emporer BillyBrew]

rock on!
believe itor not, there are still several dry countiesin Texas, including Dallas. stupid hu?

Yeah, and my fellow Okies are always running down to Texas to get 6 point Budweiser! Ah, if only they were enlightened enough to realize that our larger liquor stores have as good of selection of good brews as most of Texas's liquor stores.

 

[Dude]

That flat ass tire recipe is courtesy of Hop Head on the green board (brewboard). I brewed it as my 4th batch, I believe it was. Maybe 5th. It's a bit hoppier than the original FT. Not what I'd call an accurate clone. Please note that some of the grains in the flat ass tired recipe require toasting (not hard but gives the right biscuit type flavor).

Yeah, I already acknowledged to the forum that that recipe was from another forum.

In all honesty, it is exactly what I remember about Fat Tire. I don't think you can get much closer to a clone as a matter of fact.

 

[Mindflux]

Yeah, I already acknowledged to the forum that that recipe was from another forum.

In all honesty, it is exactly what I remember about Fat Tire. I don't think you can get much closer to a clone as a matter of fact.

That's fine, I drink enough fat tire to know what I percieve it to be like and while that recipe is good (I don't know why you got all huffy about me noting where *I* found the recipe). I used to live in Denver and drank fat tire on many, many.. MANY ocassions.

IMHO it's not the same.. but then again I've never had a clone recipe I considered so damn close to the beer it attempted to be.

Still good none the less.

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

Well, I'm kegging mine today and have a sixer of Fat Tire in the fridge. I plan on doing a side by side as mine matures a little bit, and *I* will give you my "perception" of *MY* clone recipe. ;~)

 

[Mindflux]

DeRoux,

Good deal. Keep us informed!

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

DeRoux,

Good deal. Keep us informed!

i'm jones'n! i had to replace my keg frid ge due to Rita and got it all together, and the damn shanks are too short for my new fridge!
but, that'll make me let it carb for 2-3 days and be right when it's ready to tap this weekend. i'll post an update!

i was worried it might be a little hoppier than the original. usually happens w/ a homebrew clone (in my experience anyway).

 

[Walker]

I'm bottling mine tonight (but my recipe is a hybrid of three others that I was considering.) It will have been in the bottles for 2.5 weeks when my sis-in-law's boyfriend moves up here from El Paso, TX. He's bringing me a case of the real deal and I'll actually be able to do a side-by-side comparison.

I have no idea how close to the mark I am, but I'm sure my beer will be good. Plus, I'll also have 24 bottles of Fat Tire to drink anyway, so I don't think I'll be upset by anything.

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

that's my kind of research!

 

[Dude]

That's fine, I drink enough fat tire to know what I percieve it to be like and while that recipe is good (I don't know why you got all huffy about me noting where *I* found the recipe). I used to live in Denver and drank fat tire on many, many.. MANY ocassions.

IMHO it's not the same.. but then again I've never had a clone recipe I considered so damn close to the beer it attempted to be.

Still good none the less.

Who's getting huffy? I'm just having a hard time understanding why you have to repeat the obvious. If you would have read the entire thread, you'd have noticed I mentioned the toasting of the grains, and also I mentioned it was from another brewer at another forum. Why you felt the need to repeat all that is beyond me.

 

[Mindflux]

Who's getting huffy? I'm just having a hard time understanding why you have to repeat the obvious. If you would have read the entire thread, you'd have noticed I mentioned the toasting of the grains, and also I mentioned it was from another brewer at another forum. Why you felt the need to repeat all that is beyond me.

Because I didn't read the entire thread. Don't get in a huff buddy.

 

[Walker]

I think everybody needs a timeout.

My child-rearing books say an effective timeout is 1 minute for every year of age.

MindFlux... sit in the corner for 28 minutes.

ORRELSE... sit in a different corner for 32 minutes.

then come out swinging.

-walker

 

[Dude]

I'm bottling mine tonight (but my recipe is a hybrid of three others that I was considering.) It will have been in the bottles for 2.5 weeks when my sis-in-law's boyfriend moves up here from El Paso, TX. He's bringing me a case of the real deal and I'll actually be able to do a side-by-side comparison.

I have no idea how close to the mark I am, but I'm sure my beer will be good. Plus, I'll also have 24 bottles of Fat Tire to drink anyway, so I don't think I'll be upset by anything.

-walker

Can't wait for the review. You will be tasting it tonight, no matter what, right?

 

[Walker]

Can't wait for the review. You will be tasting it tonight, no matter what, right?

Absolutely. I almost always take a 4 oz sample when I rack from pri->sec and another when I rack sec->bucket.

I had taken a sample a couple weeks ago and shared it with the ladies of the house and the response was mixed. All tasters thought it was good, but there was a split decision on whether it actually tasted like fat tire. As usual, I was the most critical judge of my beer. (I have low self esteem, according to my wife.)

Unanimously, we all thought it was too dark in color, but that's because of the LME I used.

-walker

 

[DeRoux's Broux]

i tasted mine a little while ago when i kegged and color was on, and taste was pretty close too. once it's carbed i'll get the full aroma and flavor. i'll tap it friday!

 

[Walker]

I wonder how many people have a FT clone in the works right now. I suspect there are at least a half dozen of us that brewed right about the same time.

This might be a great opportunity for a swap/critique.

-walker