dry yeast

[Sean]

Zymurgy Mag published an article in the July/August issue, “Liquid vs. Dried Yeast.” They did a comparison of White labs WLP051, Wyeast 1056, and Fermentis US56 dry ale yeast. They also pitched one carboy with half – half dry ale US56, and dry Lager W-34/70 also from S.I. Lesaffre. The White lab sample took off first, 12 hours, and the Wyeast took the longest to get going, 24 hours. After conditioning, there were only slight differences in nose, taste, and finish. Oddly enough, the two liquid yeasts were the two with the most differences. They said they enjoyed the ale/lager dry yeast batch best overall.

I like the convenience and lower price of the dry yeasts, and more quality, varieties are becoming available including Belgian yeast strains.

 

[boo boo]

I got it from a local ubrew form their bulk supply. I've seen it online somehwere for sale though.

I'll get some from the guys in our brew club http://barleyment.wort.ca/biz/?biz=48 later. I just wanted to know if it was avaliable on line in packs other than brick size.
Thanks

 

[Thirstyone]

I have tried liquid yeast before, and it pissed me off! These are all I use now for my ales!

Super fast agressive yeast, and I only use one packet for 12 gallons. It rocks!

 

[Beer Snob]

I have tried liquid yeast before, and it pissed me off! These are all I use now for my ales!

I used the 58 with very good results. I am curious as to why it pissed you off though? Dry yeast is good option for beers, but if you want to brew something specific... a Hefe for instance. The dry yeast available will only get you so far. When I inicially brewed, dry yeast was all I had (and there was not even a lot of options with the dry as well.... 2 or 3). Now there are so many options with dry and liquid it is truely daunting

 

[Thirstyone]

I used the 58 with very good results. I am curious as to why it pissed you off though? Dry yeast is good option for beers, but if you want to brew something specific... a Hefe for instance. The dry yeast available will only get you so far. When I inicially brewed, dry yeast was all I had (and there was not even a lot of options with the dry as well.... 2 or 3). Now there are so many options with dry and liquid it is truely daunting

For me it was the lag time, even sometimes with starters. The dry stuff gets going real fast

 

[disaffected]

It's odd, but you'd think the wet yeasts would start faster than the dried ones. Seems like the wet yeasts would have a head start on the dry ones, as they are already hydrated.

I haven't used any dry yeast yet, but I plan to on a near future batch so I can see if I like it better than the wet ones.

 

[Walker]

It's odd, but you'd think the wet yeasts would start faster than the dried ones. Seems like the wet yeasts would have a head start on the dry ones, as they are already hydrated.

I haven't used any dry yeast yet, but I plan to on a near future batch so I can see if I like it better than the wet ones.

I think it's a matter of initial cell count. Your liquid yeast has a lot of non-yeast material in it. The dried yeast is almost all yeast.

-walker

 

[newfie]

I just returned to homebrewing after a, shall we say "sabbatical". When we used to brew, we had to choose between coopers and coopers or we could use coopers
Since I started back up this year ... WOW ... is all i have to say. The nottingham has worked well, dry, clean, but takes a while to get going. May be the beer style though. Its a esb we brew again, and again, and again. Windsor seems to start a little faster, little less dry. s-04 blasted off one time, even with about 4 inches head space (literally, wife not impressed with mess on ceiling and wall), coopers seems to work better than it did (less lag time). Man, I just realized that my neighbour and I have brewed a crapload of beer this year.

One final thought ... Danstar is working on a lager yeast, maybe its already out ... should be a quality product though.
right on
newfie

 

[Thirstyone]

I did not knowthey made dry lager yeast as well! I wil try this on my next run. Here is the link to Fermentis with great info:

http://www.fermentis.com/FO/EN/00-Home/10-10_home.asp

 

[Beer Snob]

See it is all just very important to make a yeast starter when using liquid. And a good one.... not a half a** made one that you put together 2 hours before you plan to use it. I started using yeast starters when I joined this group and have seen the benifits of using them.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

One final thought ... Danstar is working on a lager yeast, maybe its already out ... should be a quality product though.
right on
newfie

It's called "Diamond" and was supposed to be distributed through believe it or not, whitelabs. Probably because they distribute Servomyces for them.

http://www.yeastbank.com/np/diamondyeast.htm

http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/craft_diamondlager.pdf#search=%22lallemand%20diamond%22

 

[Sean]

See it is all just very important to make a yeast starter when using liquid. And a good one.... not a half a** made one that you put together 2 hours before you plan to use it. I started using yeast starters when I joined this group and have seen the benifits of using them.

But I am curious what the benefit of a liquid yeast is? I have used them, and I am not being an AH. Just want to know what the benefit of liquid yeast is.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Variety is the main reason.

 

[Beer Snob]

But I am curious what the benefit of a liquid yeast is? I have used them, and I am not being an AH. Just want to know what the benefit of liquid yeast is.

As said, variety is the reason.

Here is a link to the variety in White Lab products:
http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_strains.html

Here is a link to the variety in Wyeast products:
http://www.wyeastlab.com/beprlist.htm

Comparing this to the dry yeast products.... oh about 5 or 6 .... but the kicker is that dry yeast basicly can only produce a few styles.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

I use dry yeast for certain styles becasue it's easier/cheaper and stores longer. But for certain brews I order in some liquid yeasts.
For lager's I've just got in some saf 23 to try out, but I'd probably still lean toward liquid yeast for lagers.

 

[boo boo]

I just returned to homebrewing after a, shall we say "sabbatical". When we used to brew, we had to choose between coopers and coopers or we could use coopers
Since I started back up this year ... WOW ... is all i have to say. The nottingham has worked well, dry, clean, but takes a while to get going. May be the beer style though. Its a esb we brew again, and again, and again. Windsor seems to start a little faster, little less dry. s-04 blasted off one time, even with about 4 inches head space (literally, wife not impressed with mess on ceiling and wall), coopers seems to work better than it did (less lag time). Man, I just realized that my neighbour and I have brewed a crapload of beer this year.

One final thought ... Danstar is working on a lager yeast, maybe its already out ... should be a quality product though.
right on
newfie

Curious about your handle. Are you an ex-pat?

The big thing with liquid is the fact that some styles can't be brewed using dry yeast to get the "true flavor" of the brew acording to style. Liquid is supposed to be "pure" also as compared to dry.
I use both liquid and dry yeast in my brewing and have built up a stock of frozen test tubes of liquid yeast cultures. I know I'm a cheap B but I also find it hard to get fresh liquid yeast other than on-line. Ther is only one place that carries liquid yeast and they have now discontinued buying any to replace stock as it don't sell well here.

 

[Beer Snob]

Curious about your handle. Are you an ex-pat?

The big thing with liquid is the fact that some styles can't be brewed using dry yeast to get the "true flavor" of the brew acording to style. Liquid is supposed to be "pure" also as compared to dry.
I use both liquid and dry yeast in my brewing and have built up a stock of frozen test tubes of liquid yeast cultures. I know I'm a cheap B but I also find it hard to get fresh liquid yeast other than on-line. Ther is only one place that carries liquid yeast and they have now discontinued buying any to replace stock as it don't sell well here.

Don't sound cheap... sounds smart.... this would be the wrong thread for it, but perhaps you could talk about how you do this. I would be very interested in reading it.

 

[boo boo]

I have used this site http://www.schwedhelm.net/brew/yeast_harv_freeze.html
as my guide. I recently revived a frozen tube of WY2308, made a starter and pitched into a lager that is winding down its primary ferment.
I have every liquid culture frozen that I'm interested in, so I should be good for a while.

Cheers

 

[newfie]

Curious about your handle. Are you an ex-pat?

i'm from the rock. Fathers from trinity bay out your way, White Way. I believe theres a pond in back of hearts delight named after a distant relative of mine, Martin Rowe.

Long live the republic
newfie

 

[boo boo]

i'm from the rock. Fathers from trinity bay out your way, White Way. I believe theres a pond in back of hearts delight named after a distant relative of mine, Martin Rowe.

Long live the republic
newfie

We just call it Martins pond.

Have you visited this site? http://barleyment.wort.ca/biz/?biz=48
A lot of good guys there.