Double IPA Dogfish Head 90 Minute Clone

[brew2enjoy]

You found Simcoe but not Amarillo? Usually it's the other way around.

 

[Chedda]

Brewing this bad boy tomorrow, is everyone still using hop bags for the additions or just throwing the pellets in since there are so many additions?

 

[scottland]

I use a 5 gallon paint strainer, like this: http://bertusbrewery.blogspot.com/2012/02/brewing-with-bertus.html

Third to last picture.

 

[brew2enjoy]

I just threw them in the kettle, whole hops and all. Dumped most of it in the fermenter and let it settle out.

 

[Lgaddy44]

I've been reading that the WLP007 is pretty hardcore. I'm going to make a 1L starter tonight so I'm ready for a brewing weekend. If i'm making a 5 gallon batch, using a bucket for primary, how likley is it that I need to use a blowoff?

I don't typically use blowoff tubes, but having never used this yeast (or tried this recipe), I'd like to avoid any possiblities of a mess. Just moved into a new townhouse and the last thing i want is to ruin the landlord's carpet.

 

[scottland]

Depends on the temperature you ferment it at. Low 60s, it's not too bad. mid-high 60s, it'll blow off pretty well. I'd use a tube just in case.

Also, if you can make a bigger starter, do so. I made a 3L starter for this beer, and I use a stir plate. If you don't have something big enough for 3L, go as big as you can.

 

[Lgaddy44]

Thanks, I'm now considering putting this in a spare bathtub or shower now. With that, I may have two options, depending on the target temp. I could put it in one safe spot, where I would guess it can ferment at around 68 degrees, or another where it would probably be between 60-62 degrees.

Logistically, the space with the lower temp would be best for me to keep the primary, but I see the optimum temp range for this yeast is 65-70. Do you think I would have any negative effects from the lower than ideal temp, if i chose to keep it there?

Also pertaining to the starter, I can go larger, but I've read debates on whether or not to step it up near the OG of the brew itself, rather than just keeping it around 1.040. I would think the 1.040 should be fine, considering the main purpose is simply to multiply your viable yeast count. Any thoughts?

 

[brew2enjoy]

When he said bigger starter, I don't think he mean't stepping it up. Instead of doing 1L of 1.040 wort do 2-3L of 1.040 wort. I think I did 2L for mine and it seemed to work well, but it doesn't hurt to go bigger.

 

[Lgaddy44]

Yeah, I was tracking as far as the volume goes, and will have no problem doing a 2-3L starter, I was just asking about the gravity of the starter. I take it, you also just do 1.040 on your starters, regardless of the OG of the wort you're making?

 

[scottland]

Just some rapid fire answers:

-1.030-1.040 for every starter. We're just trying to grow yeast.
-You don't need to step up the 1L to 3L (although you can), you can go straight from vial>3L
-Ignore the ideal temp range. 60-64 is where you want to start this beer.

You're two ranges are actually ideal. Start the beer at 60-62 for the first couple days, once fermentation peaks (day 3, day 4), move the fermenter to the area that's 68, to keep the yeast active, and help them attenuate the beer.

 

[Lgaddy44]

Thanks for the info...and helping to put my mind at ease.

 

[Chedda]

Just brewed today, finally had the time to do it. I wasn't able to find the specific amber malt needed so I mixed victory and C40 (I know I know I should have just ordered it online) anyway the color looked great and smelled amazing. Mashed at ~152 for 60 min, sparged at 170. Got a preboil of about 6.5 in the end had little over 5 in the fermentor. Starting gravity of 1.082 not sure what the efficiency calculation is but I'm happy with it. Was also unable to find amarillo hops (had no problem finding simcoe or warrior though odly) so I subbed with centennial figured it was a good substitute, would love to hear others opinions since I've never used amarillo before. Oh and Simcoe might be the best smelling hops I've ever opened, can't wait to dry hop with them.

I pitched two packs of S-04 around 8pm tonight and it's just after 1am and I'm getting bubbles. I'm also trying the fermentor in a bucket with water and an ice pack trick. Seems to be pretty good, it's hanging around 70 right now, I'll throw a fresh one in in the morning.

 

[scottland]

Try to keep that fermenter a little cooler if you can. 65 or so would be much better than 70.

 

[Chedda]

Yea I decided to toss a fresh water bottle in last night before I went to bed, it's sitting around 65. Bubbling nicely.

 

[Chedda]

Man S-04 is a beast after 24hrs it was exploding! A blow off tube is definitely needed for this recipe. Look at my airlock!

Also quick question, I usually only do 7-10 days in the primary depending on the gravity. This recipe calls for 2 weeks in the primary, is that really necessary? Or can I get away with just one week if the gravity's good?

 

[scottland]

Two weeks or more is generally a good idea with a 1.085, 9% ABV beer

 

[SenorPepe]

Scottland, I finished this batch long ago but you were right about the FG. I'll be making this again soon and I hope it finishes at 1.012 again. It was awesome.

 

[scottland]

Ya, I'm brewing a batch for a friend next weekend. I'll be brewing it with 1.25lbs Amber malt. I'll report back how it turns out.

 

[Tombrew]

I brewed this last weekend. It stopped bubbling a day ago so i put into secondary and dry hopped. What temp shoukd i keep it at now. Also, i should keep it in sec for about 2 weeks right?

 

[scottland]

Two weeks is optimal, as a big beer like this can use a little time, plus I find I get really nice hop aroma if I split the hop additions 5-7 days apart. Temp isn't critical at this phase. 50-80* (seriously)

 

[brew2enjoy]

Ya, I'm brewing a batch for a friend next weekend. I'll be brewing it with 1.25lbs Amber malt. I'll report back how it turns out.

Definately keep us posted on that. I plan on brewing this one again sometime in the near future.

 

[scottland]

Alright, I'm brewing it again friday night. 3QT starter of WLP007 is spinning away right now. Only change is 1.25lbs of Amber. We'll see how it turns out...

 

[wcrooker]

Alright, I'm brewing it again friday night. 3QT starter of WLP007 is spinning away right now. Only change is 1.25lbs of Amber. We'll see how it turns out...

I'm actually doing the same thing. only a 2L starter on a stir plate because that's all I have. My wife and I love 90 min. but they no longer distribute to my area anymore. I'm using the 1.25 amber as well but I had to sub zythos instead of amarillo. I don't really know if that was a good idea or not but we'll see what happens!

 

[CidCitrus]

has anybody tried making a small beer after mashing this? if so, what kind of beer?

 

[DustBow]

you could probably do a smaller batch of a session pale ale or something

 

[CidCitrus]

yeah thats what i was thinking. i guess it can't hurt to try it

 

[CBK]

Kegged this up today. Used 1.25 lbs TF Amber (have 18 lbs of this got to love group buys). Hydro sample aroma and taste were just awesome. Could have easily drank a pint of this warm and flat. Looking forward to the final product. Will do a side by side with the real thing. To the OP thank you for sharing this recipe.

 

[brew2enjoy]

Well my keg finally kicked last night. I really enjoyed this recipe and will be brewing it again very soon.

 

[coldcrash]

^ Agreed. Bottled mine two days ago and Will brew it again sooner rather than later. Outstanding brew! Much props to the OP and all who've contributed. Slainte!

 

[jammin]

24 hours on the stir plate. Gonna crash it tonight and brew tomorrow.

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