Maybe it's just me, but I have really had some not so good flavors come out of this "clean" yeast. From fruity, peach like flavors to a almost Belgian like aroma and off flavor. Not to mention the time it takes for this yeast to drop out. I've cold crashed for a week and still had lots of yeast in suspension. I brew all grain. Pitch hydrated yeast or a appropriate amount of slurry if I have It. Use temp control and tried temps from 62 up to 70. Feel like I have my processes dialed in. The beers I've made with other yeasts have been better than the ones with 05. I think this yeast will be off the list for me from here on out.