Does anybody have experience with Candi Syrup d-240

[Remos112]

I ordered 2 16OZ pouches of this stuff as the description totally sounds delicious, but somehow I can't find anybody who has actually brewed with the stuff. I did read some brewers that have used the D-180 and warned it would take completely over the beer if used more then 8oz.

My initial plan was to use 11% in a a Belgian Dubbel brew this would be 800Grams/28.2 Oz.
But I am worried it might be too much. I am looking forward to your experiences with this product.
Thanks in advance, Remi

 

[Remos112]

Some information from the manufacturer:

D-240 Candi Syrup is the richest and darkest candi syrup available on the market. Created to have a rich smooth palate, D-240 is a triple-dark syrup with hints of dark raisin, extra dark stone fruit and a roasted dark caramel back-palate. For ales that require full body and indescribable flavor that will set your ales apart.

 

[Kee]

I ordered 2 16OZ pouches of this stuff as the description totally sounds delicious, but somehow I can't find anybody who has actually brewed with the stuff. I did read some brewers that have used the D-180 and warned it would take completely over the beer if used more then 8oz.

My initial plan was to use 11% in a a Belgian Dubbel brew this would be 800Grams/28.2 Oz.
But I am worried it might be too much. I am looking forward to your experiences with this product.
Thanks in advance, Remi

I haven't use it either, but wouldn't expect it to be much different from D-180 (darker, of course). Let us know how it turns out.

 

[Remos112]

I haven't use it either, but wouldn't expect it to be much different from D-180 (darker, of course). Let us know how it turns out.

I will when I get around to brewing it. Might be a couple of weeks though.

 

[Remos112]

Nobody ever used this stuff?

 

[xpops]

i've also used d-180 in a 10% quad. used about 12oz for 5gal batch. Very strong - i imagine the d-240 is even stronger, and would probably stick with the 8oz/5gal.

 

[Remos112]

i've also used d-180 in a 10% quad. used about 12oz for 5gal batch. Very strong - i imagine the d-240 is even stronger, and would probably stick with the 8oz/5gal.

That's some useful info! MY my plan was to make a Belgian strong dark ale +/-8.5% and to put 32 oz D-240 in. Based on your reaction this would be way too strong?

 

[xpops]

I really liked the flavour of 8oz in the quad. Makes it smooth and that very distinct Belgian flavour without over powering it. I'd almost wonder if 8oz of a stronger candi in a lower ABV may be too much? At some point you'll have to just make a decision, brew it and adjust for the next batch. Personally, I'd err on the side of caution with such a strong flavour additive and go 4-6oz, then going 8oz and have it over power the rest of the beer.

 

[Remos112]

I really liked the flavour of 8oz in the quad. Makes it smooth and that very distinct Belgian flavour without over powering it. I'd almost wonder if 8oz of a stronger candi in a lower ABV may be too much? At some point you'll have to just make a decision, brew it and adjust for the next batch. Personally, I'd err on the side of caution with such a strong flavour additive and go 4-6oz, then going 8oz and have it over power the rest of the beer.

Good points! The thing is I see some recipes that use up to 3 pounds in a 5G batch. those are usually higher ABV. though. I am planning to use Special B and Caramunich in this same brew so choosing the side of caution might be the best approach. Thanks for your input!

 

[xpops]

3lb? Must be low d-45 or something? Seems like waaaaaay too much.

No prob! Lets us know how it goes!

 

[Remos112]

3lb? Must be low d-45 or something? Seems like waaaaaay too much.

No prob! Lets us know how it goes!

I use D180 in my BDSA
I add 1.0lb at the beginning of the boil. Then 1.0lb in last few minutes to preserve its aroma. Then when I transfer to long secondary I add one more full pound.

It does seem like a huge amount. I will keep you posted when I decide what to do! I have a low ABV extract brew coming up this weekend, basically a glorified yeast starter. I might add some there although the extract kit is intended to be a pale ale (ordered Golden Syrup for it), it makes for a perfect experiment.

 

[filthyastronaut]

Used 8 oz. of D-180 in a 2.5 gallon Dubbel that attenuated high enough to be a Dark Strong (~8%). Was delicious. For five gallons I bet you'd be safe using a pound, but I think 2 pounds would be overkill.

 

[Remos112]

Used 8 oz. of D-180 in a 2.5 gallon Dubbel that attenuated high enough to be a Dark Strong (~8%). Was delicious. For five gallons I bet you'd be safe using a pound, but I think 2 pounds would be overkill.

Great info! Thanks for your input!

 

[bassmang4]

I haven’t done one yet, but Candi Syrups own Westy 12 clone recipe uses 2.5 lbs of D-180, and Northerns Brewers recipe states 2 lbs.

 

[Remos112]

I haven’t done one yet, but Candi Syrups own Westy 12 clone recipe uses 2.5 lbs of D-180, and Northerns Brewers recipe states 2 lbs.

Wow that sure is a lot. I think I will be trying 1lbs for my first time. Since I am making a Belgian Dark Strong Ale of around 8% ABV

 

[Remos112]

I just bought a bottle of Rochefort 10. According to Candi Syrup this beer has 3LBS of D-180 in a 5gallon batch. Can't think of a better way to get acquainted with D-180 without brewing with it myself.

 

[Beerswimmer]

I'll let you know in a few weeks, just added 2lbs of D-240 to a braggot I've got fermenting now. I've never used it before, had it sitting around collecting dust so I decided to try it.

I've been using D-180 for years, it's the best!! 2lbs in a 5g batch of a Quad is a pretty normal amount IMO.

 

[Remos112]

I'll let you know in a few weeks, just added 2lbs of D-240 to a braggot I've got fermenting now. I've never used it before, had it sitting around collecting dust so I decided to try it.

I've been using D-180 for years, it's the best!! 2lbs in a 5g batch of a Quad is a pretty normal amount IMO.

Much obliged!
Only thing I could find about D-240 was on an Australian board yesterday.
They said D-240 is slightly burned, lots of hints of coffee and chocolate, and some dark raisin and as strong if not stronger than D-180. D-180 seems to be fruitier though. I am looking forward to your experience.

 

[Kee]

I'll let you know in a few weeks, just added 2lbs of D-240 to a braggot I've got fermenting now. I've never used it before, had it sitting around collecting dust so I decided to try it.

I've been using D-180 for years, it's the best!! 2lbs in a 5g batch of a Quad is a pretty normal amount IMO.

Yes, it's hard to beat the Westy 12 clone recipe, with 2 lbs. of D-180 in a 5 gallons batch (CSI orginally used 2 1/2 lbs).

I can't get D-180 here, except when friends bring it in from the States, but I've just started experimenting with a local product that tastes quite similar (quemado de panela).

 

[Remos112]

I'll let you know in a few weeks, just added 2lbs of D-240 to a braggot I've got fermenting now. I've never used it before, had it sitting around collecting dust so I decided to try it.

I've been using D-180 for years, it's the best!! 2lbs in a 5g batch of a Quad is a pretty normal amount IMO.

Did you by any chance taste it already? Very curious about your observations!

 

[Beerswimmer]

Did you by any chance taste it already? Very curious about your observations!

I just bottled my braggot tonight, so my sample was flat. It also had 10lbs of dark honey added to it and was a 18.6%! I'm not great at describing flavors: Very tasty! Big dark malt flavors(I only used light malt and wheat DME), dark fruit, a bit of chocolate, caramel, and possibly coffee.

I'll have to let it carb a few weeks and try one again to really get a feel for it. Right now I would say that it would be almost overpowering in a smaller beer.

 

[Remos112]

I just bottled my braggot tonight, so my sample was flat. It also had 10lbs of dark honey added to it and was a 18.6%! I'm not great at describing flavors: Very tasty! Big dark malt flavors(I only used light malt and wheat DME), dark fruit, a bit of chocolate, caramel, and possibly coffee.

I'll have to let it carb a few weeks and try one again to really get a feel for it. Right now I would say that it would be almost overpowering in a smaller beer.

Thanks for the update, so you are saying that 1 lbs of the stuff in a 8% abv beer would probably be overkill?

 

[Beerswimmer]

I'm not sure. It's a stronger flavor than D-180 for sure though.

 

[Remos112]

I'm not sure. It's a stronger flavor than D-180 for sure though.

I I'll just go for it then. I am brewing a Gouden Carolus inspired brew tomorrow and I will use the entire pound. Will let you all know how it turns out.

 

[Beerswimmer]

Yeah! I'll be using it more in the very near future. Maybe do my standard quad and dubbel and see how it compares to D-180. Probably just the expected heavier and darker flavors, but I still want to try it!

 

[Remos112]

Yeah! I'll be using it more in the very near future. Maybe do my standard quad and dubbel and see how it compares to D-180. Probably just the expected heavier and darker flavors, but I still want to try it!

The only syrup I have used so far is the golden wich I like a lot. I now have 2 pounds of d-240 so will use it in the future for sure, and by then I will know how much is appropriate, looking forward to trying the other syrups too!

 

[Remos112]

Did my brew today and wow this stuff is DARK! I added the entire pouch and I rinsed it twice with water, I was running higher then expected efficiency anyway so might as well rinse that pouch thouroughly! The wort smelled amazing, will update in a couple of weeks

 

[JohnSand]

I am currently drinking a Dubbel with 1# of D90 and 1# of D180. It is a little dark for the style, and a bit roasty. I will use less next time.
If I were using 240, I would add it to the fermenter gradually, tasting after each dose fermented. Maybe 1/2# to start. That way you can gauge the result.

 

[Beerswimmer]

I just ordered 2 more packs to make a quad with. So in a few weeks/months I'll be able to sse what it's like a little more.

 

[Remos112]

I just ordered 2 more packs to make a quad with. So in a few weeks/months I'll be able to sse what it's like a little more.

Looking forwards to you observations already!