Denver Bulk Buy # 2

[Ridebreck]

Hopefully things clear up between Denver and the Springs. Snow's still flying and there was a rollover near Monument on I-25 northbound that has things all in a mess. Should be an interesting morning.

 

[cruelkix]

Hopefully things clear up between Denver and the Springs. Snow's still flying and there was a rollover near Monument on I-25 northbound that has things all in a mess. Should be an interesting morning.

I work right by the mall and I'm going to have to say that the weather is pretty nuts right now. we have gone through rain to hail to snow back to rian and now back to snow. Gotta love spring weather craziness in CO.

 

[Strngcheez]

I'd like to give a shout out to Chris (for initiating everything), Wayne, Jason, and Colorado Malting Company. That was the easiest transaction. Thank you very much!!! I can't wait to brew with the pale malt I received. May car smells of malty goodness!

 

[Wayne1]

I want to thank everybody that made it out in the nasty weather to pick up their grain.

Unfortunately some people were not able to make it and 1,000 lbs or so had to go back. It was rather busy at first and I was not able to keep track of who was there.

Jason understood that the weather may have caused problems for travel. He is willing to come back up to Park Meadows next week to redeliver the grain.

Please get in touch with me if you are still interested in getting your order next week. Jason will honor the price of the bulk buy.

 

[Buffman]

Considering the volume of grain, number of participants, and weather, the transaction was extremely smooth and efficient. Thanks again to Wayne for coordinating the effort and to Jason for working with all of us. I particularly want to thank the guys who helped distribute the grain. Of my seven bags, I think I personally only loaded two.

 

[Petervonstubb]

Yes, thanks to everyone who put this together. I can't wait to brew with this stuff.

 

[lackey2000]

A HUGE THANKS TO WAYNE for helping to organize this!!! Given the number of people involved and the amount of gain ordered, there is definitely demand for this. Without someone like Wayne to organize everyone's requests and coordinate with Colorado Malting Co. this never would happen!

And another huge thanks to Colorado Malting Co. for showing up on time despite the challenging weather AND for providing us homebrewers with some pretty awesome malt! It's pretty cool that they're willing to deal with us little guys despite most of Colorado's major breweries are showing interest in their product. Hopefully this doesn't change.

 

[jppostKW]

+1 thanks again Wayne have my grain all packaged up in buckets Jason has delivered to me before a very nice guy we chatted a bit and their main malting floor has a capacity of 7000 lbs our order almost filled a whole batch :rockin:

 

[Wayne1]

Jason will be coming up again this weekend. For those who missed the pick up time last week, please get in touch with me about getting your grain this weekend. Sunday afternoon would be the best time and day to meet up with him.

Jason will honor the bulk buy pricing.

 

[gridstorm]

I'm sort of in late on this thread, but was wondering if it'd be possible to place an order for this weekend if I wasn't in the first round.

 

[Wayne1]

The bulk buy is over. The only people allowed to receive grain this weekend for the bulk buy price are those who had placed their orders prior to the April 15 deadline.

We may have another in 6 months or so. I'm not sure how to prevent the problem of people placing orders, confirming them and then not showing up.

I could have been on the hook for $500.00 worth of grain. I am not willing to take that on me.

One person suggested pre-paying with PayPal. I'll run that by Jason. I'm sure the usual 3% surcharge would be in effect.

I did this to help out fellow HBDers on the front range. I don't want to have my good deed punish me.

 

[Blackgaurd_Brewing]

If there is still some unsold this weekend it would be beneficial to create a list and post it here and see if people want it.

 

[gridstorm]

that's cool dude. I understand. You're last post sort of made it sound like a new person would be able to get in on the 2nd shipment because "he'll honor the bulk price".

Anyway, my old roommates went in on a buy years ago. They said it was the Boulder-Denver grain coop or something. Anyway, now that I'm out of the house and brewing on my own I've been looking for something like this (just found the website, too)

 

[Wayne1]

The bulk buy was just for people who pre-ordered before April 15th. As to him honoring the price, that meant he would allow the people who were not able to get to the pre-aranged pick-up point because of the weather to get their grains at the bulk price. He would have been entirely within his rights to charge full price for the grain. Part of the agreement for the BULK Buy was to be there to pick up on a particular date. The reason we got a good price was because they were able to bring up a large quantity of grain in one trip.

All the grain went back to Alamosa. It will be sold at a full price, now. He is not hurting for business. He has contracts with 10 brewpubs and micro-breweries in Colorado. He is in talks to supply the bulk of the grain to New Belgium and O'Dells. He could not sell to homebrewers at all and it would not hurt his bottom line.

In fact, this bulk buy may have hurt him. At least one, large homebrew shop that sells his grain has asked him not to sell direct to homebrewers.

I am fairly dismayed by the selfishness being shown on the thread. Looking for a technicality to get a cheaper price. After this, and the cavalier fashion in which people blew off the pick up, after placing an order AND confirming it, I am not sure I want to get involved in a bulk buy again.

Most of the persons involved were great to work with. As they say, no good deed goes unpunished.

 

[gridstorm]

chill dude, I get what was going on. I read through the thread. Is it possible that your last post suggested that he's making another trip to the front range and could add on another 100#s or so for someone who wasn't in on the first bulk buy? That's how I interpreted it. I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask, as this is an irregular event and it might be a while before it happens again.

Also, as Blackguard suggested, my inquiry could also help buy up some of the grain that was never picked up. Don't get pissed at me for simply asking a question that would potentially help out everyone else involved. A real welcoming community here...

(by the way, I'm from Alamosa and could easily pick it up when visiting my grandparents, so don't treat me like some punk kid)

 

[Buffman]

We need to find some way to pay Jason up front, before he makes a trip up here. Wayne is right on - CMC and Jason do not need us. Part of their incentive to work with us is building a market for the product, at which point I expect them to deliver only to our LHBS and stop the bulk buys and individual deliveries. So, as long as CMC is willing to work with us, we need to make it as easy, profitable, and low-risk for them as possible.

Wayne, don't get too worked up. Those of us who have dealt with CMC know the situation and really appreciate your time and effort on our behalf.

 

[BCC]

Wayne,

I am sorry about all the troubles you had with this bulk buy after all the work you put in to confirm everyone’s order. It is a shame that more people did not call and update you if they could not make the pick up for what ever reason. I do want to say thank you for helping out Mike and I out by waiting like you did. I will say a cheers to you with my first glass of CMC made beer. Your hard work was appreciated!

Thanks again!

 

[Wayne1]

The last of the bulk buy was picked up today.

I did talk to Jason about future buys. We both agreed all grain needs to be paid for in advance.

Jason is willing to accept checks mailed to him. He is also able to accept credit cards, but will have to charge back his processing fees in order to give us the big discounts he has been doing.

He also said he may be making some crystal malt in the next week or so.

My feeling right now is to give it a rest for a few weeks. I do want to buy some specialty malts from CMC when they become available. I might be persuaded to help organize another group buy. It will be set up a bit different than the last one.

If you commit to the buy, you will have to pay for your grain in advance. When the grain arrives in Denver, you will give your name to Jason at the site, you name and order will be matched and you will take your grain and leave.

If you cannot make it to the site on the specified day, so sorry. You will forfeit your payment and the grain will be divided up between the people who do show up.

I do understand that life happens. There may be a reason that you may not be able to make the pick-up. If you notify either Jason or the coordinator, something may be able to be worked out.

That is enough on this issue.

Enjoy the grain and I hope at some point to be able to sample some of your efforts with the CMC grains.

 

[MikeScott]

I know that I really appreciate the opportunity to get some really great grain, for a really great price. My thanks to Jason, as well as Wayne1 for organizing it, and waiting for me to arrive.

Paying in advance wouldn't be an issue either.

Thanks a bunch guys!

 

[pjk49202]

FWIW, I live in near Park Meadows and would be able to help with a future bulk buy if it happens. I would have gotten in on this one but I wasn't going to be around for the pick up date so I had to pass.

 

[PVH]

Wayne-

I want to echo the thanks others have posted. It was amazing, especially as a newcomer to the area, to get in on some great grain so easily.

PVH

 

[gridstorm]

It is apparent that the community is grateful to both Wayne1 and jason. I would like to be in on any future buys, and would also prepay to the vendor beforehand.

 

[Blackgaurd_Brewing]

Prepay is a great plan. And I will be in for another buy when the time comes, assuming I have gotten mostly through what I bought this time. Im interested to see how the Roasted purple barley works out, I havent been able to brew yet but hopefully this weekend.

Wayne, I appreciate the effort you put into this, I cant imagine how much of a pain this was to set up and how much time it must have taken to talk to everyone individually.

 

[riverfrontbrewer]

Hey Front Range Brewers......anybody have a sack or two from this past buy they would like to part with because they haven't brewed as much as they thought? Looking for someone in the downtown or tech center are for delivery

Thanks-

 

[Blackgaurd_Brewing]

Id be interested in buying a sack or two more also, Lakewood, west denver, or the springs area's.

 

[riverfrontbrewer]

Since I've had no responses, would anybody be interested in another bulk buy?

 

[cruelkix]

Since I've had no responses, would anybody be interested in another bulk buy?

I would be. I just used up the last of my 100 lbs.

 

[PVH]

Since I've had no responses, would anybody be interested in another bulk buy?

Count me in as well.

 

[jakeshivers]

I'm in

 

[Blackgaurd_Brewing]

Id be in, probably for 150lbs + some more of that awesome Purple hulless