Sweet Stout Deception Cream Stout

[Pyg]

Bottled.
Ended up adding another 2 oz of lactose for a total of 3/4#.
Ended up with 5.25%, which is weird considering I added the extra two 1/2#'s of DME

Damn this stuff is Roasty and tasty.
Wish I had made this instead of my oatmeal stout
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I am going to try and put them in a warm water bath with temp control and speed up bottle carbing, hopefully have one ready for super bowl !

 

[blacklabel8829]

Yea, that puppy is ridiculously cute. Hide all your shoes.

Huh? The link takes me to the bs2 screen shot

 

[Pyg]

I had a
SG of 1.072
FG of 1.032

Is that a high FG, even with 12 oz of lactose?
Or is my hydrometer broke?

 

[Pyg]

Less than 2 week in bottle, but kept in a water bath of 70.

It defiantly has more of a kick than my 5.25% reading woul indicate.
It has a Roasty flavor
But also a hot- wine/alcohol like flavor.
Maybe I over mashed and have too many tannins?
Of course if my readings were correct it could just be a 7% stout with a ton of lactose

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[OldFableFarms]

has anyone aged this stout and if so at what point did it start going past its prime? I did all grain

Thanks

 

[ahariton]

I've made a Woodford Bourbon porter several years in a row for the Ky Derby and am looking to up it to a Bourbon Stout.

For anyone who's brewed this, how do you think it would be with half a bottle of bourbon + oak cubes?

 

[Jwin]

I've made a Woodford Bourbon porter several years in a row for the Ky Derby and am looking to up it to a Bourbon Stout.

For anyone who's brewed this, how do you think it would be with half a bottle of bourbon + oak cubes?

I haven't made this (yet) but, what size bottle?

 

[BeardedBrews]

has anyone aged this stout and if so at what point did it start going past its prime? I did all grain

Thanks

I'm at +235 days and my bottle conditioned (ez-cap) extract version still tastes good. It certianly improved with the first several months, now it is has leveled out.

 

[christyle]

I haven't made this (yet) but, what size bottle?

Sweet jesus, unless it's a single serve bottle, it's going to be way too much. I added maybe 10oz of bourbon to one stout I made and its taken me more than a year to tone it back, and it's still too much.

 

[christyle]

Has anyone upped the OG on this to around 1.090? Thinking of giving it a shot to see what it's like, plus some espresso and coconut.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

I've made a Woodford Bourbon porter several years in a row for the Ky Derby and am looking to up it to a Bourbon Stout.

For anyone who's brewed this, how do you think it would be with half a bottle of bourbon + oak cubes?

I'm good with 3 or 4oz of bourbon. But it's all personal taste man.

 

[Jwin]

.5oz/gallon is very subtle, but I imagine 1oz/1g would be pretty prominent
I lump bourbon in with oak, both should only be supporting roles in most beers, to my tastes.

 

[christyle]

Has anyone upped the OG on this to around 1.090? Thinking of giving it a shot to see what it's like, plus some espresso and coconut.

Scaled mine up today to a 1.088 and the yeast is kicking after like 3 hrs

 

[Pyg]

4 weeks in bottle and flavor is nowhere near what I expected.
Maltyer (due to extra pound of DME)
Gets better when warms up.
Has a kick.
Does this stuff benefit from aging?
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[blacklabel8829]

My LHBS has Pale Chocolate (400) and Chocolate (625). Should I go with one over the other, or some kind of mixture of both?

 

[Jwin]

4 weeks in bottle and flavor is nowhere near what I expected.
Maltyer (due to extra pound of DME)
Gets better when warms up.
Has a kick.
Does this stuff benefit from aging?
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Most stouts and porters do, to some degree or another
Give it another month

 

[thunderwagn]

Bottled about 41/2 months ago. It's starting to come around a bit and I've learned a ton since brewing this batch. I used S-04 for the 1st time and fermented a tad bit to high, and upped the lactose a tad which wasn't necessarily a good thing. My recipe resizing formulation was also a bit off, so some of the more _robust_ stout characteristics are a bit lacking.
I've since moved on to all grain, and think I'll brew this again just to compare notes and to see how much my brewing has improved.
It's drinkable!

 

[Pyg]

2.5 months in the bottle and I may drain pour the last few.
There is a weird taste to it.
Not quite metallic, but an artificial after taste.
My only deviation was extra lb of DME and extra lactose!

I fermented at 70F

Any ideas where I went wrong?

 

[BantamBrewing]

2.5 months in the bottle and I may drain pour the last few.
There is a weird taste to it.
Not quite metallic, but an artificial after taste.
My only deviation was extra lb of DME and extra lactose!

I fermented at 70F

Any ideas where I went wrong?

I've had dark beers taste like that. I let them sit for months and they got so much better. Nobody can explain it for me.

 

[christyle]

I'm actually kind of over this one. The last few versions have always seemed "muddy" tasting and it never really gets better with age. I made a different milk stout for a Chai version and it had a lot cleaner edge too it. The flavors in this one seem to blend too much into an odd taste. It's not too bad, but there are better versions of cream stouts to me now.

 

[Christopher808]

Thinking about making this, would really like something with good coffee or chocolate flavor. Are additions recommended? What additions have been successful?

 

[christyle]

I've done espresso and basic old folgers, both cold brewed in a french press at bottling and both were great.

 

[laserstone]

First beer brew, BIAB cause I have the equipment, could anyone help scale the all-grain recipe to one gallon? Specifically, what should I set my boil volume to, and how much hops should I add? I'm assuming the rest of the ingredients, e.g. grain and lactose, are just 1/5 of the given values. Thank you.
Edit: Also, if I'm using distilled water, how much (if any) of various kinds of brewing salts should I add?

 

[Kampenken]

First beer brew, BIAB cause I have the equipment, could anyone help scale the all-grain recipe to one gallon? Specifically, what should I set my boil volume to, and how much hops should I add? I'm assuming the rest of the ingredients, e.g. grain and lactose, are just 1/5 of the given values. Thank you.
Edit: Also, if I'm using distilled water, how much (if any) of various kinds of brewing salts should I add?

Your boil volume is very dependent upon how vigorous of a boil. Assuming stove top you should control to an easy rolling boil, and I'd imagine near a qt extra at begin of boil. Plus you will lose some via grain absorption. Try a brew calculator on line (e.g. Brew 365). Or search here in the large 1g brewers thread for this info. Grains and hops yes 1/5. Salts use Bru'n Water calcs for a stout. Take time reading through, not that difficult and good luck with your brew day! Let us know how it turns out.

 

[ThatBrewingOtter]

Thanks for the recipe! I can't believe how long the talk has been going on this one
I got this one going last weekend, fourth batch of beer made! Excited to have it ready, theoretically, by St. Patty's. Fingers crossed!

 

[jamorgan3777]

I am drinking this now and its REALLY good! If anyone is on the fence about making this, do it. It is excellent.

Gets better as it ages.

 

[ThatBrewingOtter]

Just bottled mine up last night! Things went well.

I did half with the original recipe. Added lactose to the other half to be the equivalent of making the recipe with a full pound. Curious to taste the difference after a month or so of carbing/conditioning...

Even the hydro sample I took tasted good. I was amazed! Excited to see what a little time does to it... And, you know. Being carbonated AND cold

 

[peanasky]

Brewed this a few weeks ago and pulled the first sample yesterday. I was a bit concerned at first because BrewTarget has the FG at something around 1.016 (I think it has something to do with the lactose and now that I type it, I remember it happening the first time I brewed this many years ago) and my SG was at 1.021. Came back here to see what the original expected FG was, glad to see I'm nearly dead on.

I fermented with WLP004 - Irish Ale, and the wife wants to keg this with some homemade vanilla extract. We tried a few drops in the sample, and boy was it tasty!

 

[ThatBrewingOtter]

Just sampled a bottle after about 4 weeks to carb/condition. Tastes great! This one was from my "double lactose" half of the recipe. It was very lactose-sweet and had that thick feel in the mouth. I actually think the original recipe will be more to my taste... Gonna try one of those bottles soon!


About halfway through...

 

[christyle]

I've gotten to the point where I feel some of the milk stouts get a little too muddy/sweet tasting, like maybe they need a hit of roast barley or something to give a little of the edge back... I haven't made this beer in awhile, but I may re-brew it and try something along those lines.