Sweet Stout Deception Cream Stout

[Pyg]

Airlock has slowed
Temp still 70F to 68F

Never seen the top of bucket so bowed and bent upward

 

[thadeus_d3]

Just wait, that thing is going to pop through that airlock
http://youtu.be/LcKcrH86Jpc

Very cool video.

 

[thadeus_d3]

I love this recipe, but I've found that drinking it makes my wife and I very gassy haha. My question is - If I added half the amount of lactose to the recipe, could I use a different ingredient to get the same body/sweetness?

 

[klowneyy]

I love this recipe, but I've found that drinking it makes my wife and I very gassy haha. My question is - If I added half the amount of lactose to the recipe, could I use a different ingredient to get the same body/sweetness?

I don't see why not as long as its a non fermentable sugar. Like splenda or sweet n low. Getting ready to brew the all grain batch today going with 7# pale malt

 

[klowneyy]

here's the recipe i am doing tomorrow. Had to scale the hops back to 0.57 oz's to get 27 ibu's hops where at 14.03% Alpha. Also decided to add in 0.50 lbs flaked oats

Style: American Stout
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 5.70 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.20 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 38.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 27.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
7 lbs Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 59.6 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 12.8 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.5 %
12.0 oz Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM) Grain 4 6.4 %
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 5 4.3 %
8.0 oz Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 6 4.3 %
8.0 oz Milk Sugar (Lactose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 7 4.3 %
0.57 oz Magnum [14.03 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 8 27.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg London Ale Yeast (Wyeast Labs #1028) [12 Yeast 9 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, medium Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs 12.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 14.06 qt of water at 160.3 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 3.53 gal water at 168.0 F
Notes:
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add lactose/sugar 50 mins into boil.

 

[thadeus_d3]

I don't see why not as long as its a non fermentable sugar. Like splenda or sweet n low. Getting ready to brew the all grain batch today going with 7# pale malt

I may give that a shot next time. Thanks!

 

[klowneyy]

Happy to help.

 

[klowneyy]

Brewed today added coconut sugar,sweet flaked coconut, and whole vanilla beans o.g 1.068

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[billspudley]

Brewed today added coconut sugar,sweet flaked coconut, and whole vanilla beans o.g 1.068

Looks good!
Did you soak the beans or slice em at all?

 

[klowneyy]

Looks good!
Did you soak the beans or slice em at all?

Thanks! I sliced the beans than added for full 60 min boil than added another bean into carboy.

 

[billspudley]

Thanks! I sliced the beans than added for full 60 min boil than added another bean into carboy.

I usually slice mine, soak them in enough bourbon to cover them in a bowl for about a week, then add that to secondary and let it set for a few weeks.

 

[billspudley]

Thanks! I sliced the beans than added for full 60 min boil than added another bean into carboy.

I usually slice mine, soak them in enough bourbon to cover them in a bowl for about a week, then add that to secondary and let it set for a few weeks.
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[klowneyy]

I usually slice mine, soak them in enough bourbon to cover them in a bowl for about a week, then add that to secondary and let it set for a few weeks.
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I'm not really a fan of soaking anything in alcohol unless it's some kind of oak cubes. Does the bourbon add any kind of profile?. I Was thinking about soaking some oak cubes in either whiskey or bourbon to add to this stout. Fermentation has taken off with 4 hrs after pitching added 2 wyeasts packs of 1028. Glad I added a blow off tube.

 

[billspudley]

I'm not really a fan of soaking anything in alcohol unless it's some kind of oak cubes. Does the bourbon add any kind of profile?. I Was thinking about soaking some oak cubes in either whiskey or bourbon to add to this stout. Fermentation has taken off with 4 hrs after pitching added 2 wyeasts packs of 1028. Glad I added a blow off tube.

I suppose if y use enough, it will add a little something, but it's more to extract all of that vanilla goodness from the beans.

This is a fun one to watch ferment if you're using a carboy. A lot going on in there.

 

[klowneyy]

I suppose if y use enough, it will add a little something, but it's more to extract all of that vanilla goodness from the beans.

This is a fun one to watch ferment if you're using a carboy. A lot going on in there.

Any reason why you use bourbon vs vodka to extract the vanilla flavors out? Wouldn't vodka give you more of a neutral flavor?

 

[christyle]

Any reason why you use bourbon vs vodka to extract the vanilla flavors out? Wouldn't vodka give you more of a neutral flavor?

Exactly, it's a way to impart a little bourbon flavor into the beer.

 

[Pyg]

Any reason why you use bourbon vs vodka to extract the vanilla flavors out? Wouldn't vodka give you more of a neutral flavor?

I always use vodka when making wine, as it does not impart much of a flavor.
However I always use whiskey for beer as beer & whiskey mix well!

 

[Jwin]

I just keep some split beans in a small bottle of Makers. a few shots of this will meet some robust porter next week.

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[klowneyy]

Got an infection...

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[bleme]

Any reason why you use bourbon vs vodka to extract the vanilla flavors out? Wouldn't vodka give you more of a neutral flavor?

My mom bought 2 bottles of vanilla extract from a restaurant supply company. One bottle using vodka, and one using bourbon. I like the flavor of the bourbon-based extract better in just about everything. It's just a richer flavor.

 

[KPBrews]

Any reason why you use bourbon vs vodka to extract the vanilla flavors out? Wouldn't vodka give you more of a neutral flavor?

As I understand it, the flavor change of a small amount of bourbon is extremely small, considering it's essentially 2-3 shots of bourbon going into a 5 gallon (or larger) batch of beer. Might add some very slight slight bourbony notes, at best (which generally goes really well with beer), if anything. This as opposed to no change from the same volume of vodka. I suspect you'd really need to be looking for the bourbon flavor to notice, else it's just a very subtle flavor enhancement, if anything.

 

[OscarBrau]

I kegged mine last night. Was in primary for 4 weeks. I used .75 lbs of lactose, had a OG of 1.064 and FG of 1.022. The smell is incredible, and the taste even better! Smooth coffee and bittersweet chocolate. It's going to be hard aging this for a month before carbonating.

 

[seven9st_surfer]

Just put mine in the fermenter a few minutes ago. Went by the original AG recipe exactly with 7# 2-row and Denny's, except my LHBS didn't have plain chocolate malt, only pale and dark, so I did 0.5 pale and 0.25 dark, which kinda matches the L of the original. And I managed to get 80% efficiency. 5.6 gallons at 1.063. This is going to be my first batch on nitro, can't wait.

 

[Pyg]

Thinking of upping the lactose from 10 oz to 12 before bottling.
Can't hurt!

 

[Kampenken]

Got an infection...

Oh that sucks!! I just saw this thread and saw your first pic of your brew in carboy. I thought wow, no head space! Was going to advise a blow off, instead of your air lock and ask how it was going (how much blew off), and then this. Sorry to hear.

 

[phyllobeddo]

So I brewed this on 04.06.2015 and I took the keg out of the fridge on 07.11.2015 because it tasted like an ashtray. I almost dumped it, but I decided against it. I "forgot" about it until a couple of days ago when I was looking for a free keg for one of the two new brews. The taste has changed dramatically for the better. No ashtray taste now. It's very creamy, silky smooth. I'm very glad I didn't dump it. Time to drink up!

 

[Shenanigans]

So I brewed this on 04.06.2015 and I took the keg out of the fridge on 07.11.2015 because it tasted like an ashtray. I almost dumped it, but I decided against it. I "forgot" about it until a couple of days ago when I was looking for a free keg for one of the two new brews. The taste has changed dramatically for the better. No ashtray taste now. It's very creamy, silky smooth. I'm very glad I didn't dump it. Time to drink up!

Cool so maybe there's hope for mine yet.
Bottled it about 3 weeks ago and it still tastes like the smell of burning rubber.
If you could imaging Band-Aid mixed with roasted malt.
The issue was with the BRY-97 yeast; I think I got two bad packs because the last beer I brewed with it had a horrible off-taste too.
40 or so other batches and I've never had a problem; even using the same equipment again afterwards.
I'm just going to leave it in a corner of the basement and try a bottle every month or so.

 

[phyllobeddo]

Cool so maybe there's hope for mine yet.
Bottled it about 3 weeks ago and it still tastes like the smell of burning rubber.
If you could imaging Band-Aid mixed with roasted malt.
The issue was with the BRY-97 yeast; I think I got two bad packs because the last beer I brewed with it had a horrible off-taste too.
40 or so other batches and I've never had a problem; even using the same equipment again afterwards.
I'm just going to leave it in a corner of the basement and try a bottle every month or so.

Sounds like a perfect idea. Sit it and forget it. Hopefully it'll turn out OK like my "ashtray" batch. I drank three or four pours off of that keg last night.

 

[blacklabel8829]

I want to test this out with my new little big mouth bubbler I got for 1gal test batches. Put this together in BS2, thoughts? http://imgur.com/IgUVP8n

 

[tgmartin000]

I want to test this out with my new little big mouth bubbler I got for 1gal test batches. Put this together in BS2, thoughts? http://imgur.com/IgUVP8n

Yea, that puppy is ridiculously cute. Hide all your shoes.