Confession time, I’m not a lager fan... however Warsteiner is pretty good.

[AkTom]

So I just had a Warsteiner German Pilsener. It is the best lager I’ve had. Can someone help me with a recipe. I do have a fermentation chamber, so I can lager.
Thanks

 

[riceral]

So I just had a Warsteiner German Pilsener. It is the best lager I’ve had. Can someone help me with a recipe. I do have a fermentation chamber, so I can lager.
Thanks

You might try here: https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1812.0

Or, here: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/warsteiner-all-grain-recipe.56984/

 

[RPh_Guy]

For best results you'll need low-oxygen brewing methods and biological acidification (sauergut).

 

[Robert65]

For best results you'll need low-oxygen brewing methods and biological acidification (sauergut).

^This. The ingredients are dead simple in German beers, and vary very little from brewery. The flavor is all down to process.

 

[passedpawn]

My suggestions: use soft water, tettnang or saaz hops, keep OG under 1.050, use only pilsner malt, ferment cold, do everything you can to clear the beer before kegging/bottling.

 

[Sammy86]

My suggestions: use soft water, tettnang or saaz hops, keep OG under 1.050, use only pilsner malt, ferment cold, do everything you can to clear the beer before kegging/bottling.

What he said!

 

[MrPowers]

^This. The ingredients are dead simple in German beers, and vary very little from brewery. The flavor is all down to process.

Agreed. Warsteiner is probably just soft water; 90/10 Weyermann Pilsner/Munich II to 1.045; and a single addition of noble hops around 40-45 minutes to get to 28-30ibu. Then cold pitch a metric s*** ton of 34/70 and ferment at 48F until spunding.

 

[bracconiere]

My suggestions: use soft water, tettnang or saaz hops, keep OG under 1.050, use only pilsner malt, ferment cold, do everything you can to clear the beer before kegging/bottling.

+1 to that. when i made my first lager i just used 100% pale malt, lightly hopped...and instead of budweiser, or milwaukee's.....i ended up with something with a very pleasent....uhhh, creamy mouth feel.....

 

[passedpawn]

For yeast, I like S-189. It's the only one I use now for pilsners. I did have some success with liquid yeasts (I think Wyeast Munich Lager was one that made a good pilsner), but I find dry to be so convenient. I had some bad experiences with W34/70, so I don't use that any longer.

 

[monkeymath]

I somehow can't get over the sheer number of people on here that brew with the goal of producing a product as bland and generic as Warsteiner, Bitburger, Krombacher and the likes.

If you hate flavour so much, why not stick with water?!

 

[brewbama]

You might try here: https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1812.0

Love this quote from the link above:

[quote author=bluesman link=topic=1812.msg21456#msg21456 date=1269882465]
... While all of the beers were good, the German varieties have a distinct taste that I can't quite put my finger on. ...
[/quote]

 

[day_trippr]

There are a lot of bleh lagers brewed in the world.
Then there are the few epiphanies of the style that make the hunt worthwhile.
If one doesn't appreciate how such a simple style can actually amaze, that's on him/her, imo.

Cheers! (Probably immature palettes always looking for 'splosions )

 

[dmtaylor]

For yeast, I like S-189. It's the only one I use now for pilsners. I did have some success with liquid yeasts (I think Wyeast Munich Lager was one that made a good pilsner), but I find dry to be so convenient. I had some bad experiences with W34/70, so I don't use that any longer.

Ditto. S-189 is great. W-34/70, meh.

 

[dmtaylor]

I somehow can't get over the sheer number of people on here that brew with the goal of producing a product as bland and generic as Warsteiner, Bitburger, Krombacher and the likes.

If you hate flavour so much, why not stick with water?!

I couldn't disagree more. Countersuit: To those who love hops so much, why don't you just down a pellet with a shot of vodka, prolly be cheaper.

 

[jcav]

A very well made Pilsner is truly a memorable beer and a treat to have on tap at home!


John

 

[AkTom]

Thanks for all the info. I should really do some research... and go to Germany and try them all first hand. I know, I know, I’m delusional. At least I have you guys to help me.
Cheers

 

[Die_Beerery]

Love this quote from the link above:

[quote author=bluesman link=topic=1812.msg21456#msg21456 date=1269882465]
... While all of the beers were good, the German varieties have a distinct taste that I can't quite put my finger on. ...

[/QUOTE]

Dare I say......”it”?

Pandaemonium ensues all over again.

 

[bracconiere]

I somehow can't get over the sheer number of people on here that brew with the goal of producing a product as bland and generic as Warsteiner, Bitburger, Krombacher and the likes.

If you hate flavour so much, why not stick with water?!

water doesn't make me smile?

I couldn't disagree more. Countersuit: To those who love hops so much, why don't you just down a pellet with a shot of vodka, prolly be cheaper.

cheaper? maybe, if you get a pouch of turbo yeast and make your own out of a 25lb bag of sugar......(and if you DO like flavor it only takes a couple weeks on a bit of toasted wood to get flavor, probably cheaper then the hops pellet)

 

[grampamark]

I somehow can't get over the sheer number of people on here that brew with the goal of producing a product as bland and generic as Warsteiner, Bitburger, Krombacher and the likes.

If you hate flavour so much, why not stick with water?!

So, just how many weeks ago did you start drinking beer?

 

[S-Met]

I somehow can't get over the sheer number of people on here that brew with the goal of producing a product as bland and generic as Warsteiner, Bitburger, Krombacher and the likes.

If you hate flavour so much, why not stick with water?!

I'm not a pilsner fan, and generally don't like most lagers. But I have had a few that were really good.

When it comes to brewing, they are possibly the most difficult. Their clean profile is easily muddied by the slightest flaw. Its a challenge and an honor to do it well.

 

[AkTom]

Pandaemonium ensues all over again.[/QUOTE]
How long is this Pandaemonium layered?
And whom is it ensuing?
Cheers

 

[z-bob]

And whom is it ensuing?

Who. (usually have to correct people the other way)

 

[monkeymath]

It's marvelous how people on here look down on "BMC" and its consumers, only to jump to a slightly more sophisticated version of bland.
(I'm deliberately exaggerating, mind you. Haters gonna hate.)
I suppose the mentioned "maturity of one's palette [sic!]" has to be achieved through years of drinking Bud Lite?

I couldn't disagree more. Countersuit: To those who love hops so much, why don't you just down a pellet with a shot of vodka, prolly be cheaper.

I'm not much of a hop head myself, honestly. I'm certainly not - as some here would suggest I am - opposed to a good (!) pilsner. Not at all.

Edit: Only now do I realize what I should've written to begin with:

"Confession time, I’m sort of a lager fan... however Warsteiner kinda sucks"

 

[dmtaylor]

"Confession time, I’m sort of a lager fan... however Warsteiner kinda sucks"

To each his own. I love me a good Warsteiner, as much as I love almost any German import. Because it’s always got “it”. Hard to find “it” in the States. “It” is not in BMC.

 

[z-bob]

I love Hofbräuhaus festbier (Oktoberfestbier). I look forward to it every September. It's got “it”. I'll never be able to brew it myself because I can't do “it”. That's okay, there are plenty of good and a few great beers that I can do. I haven't had a Warsteiner in a while; don't know where to get reasonably fresh ones.

 

[AkTom]

What started all this lager nonsense for me was, I went to dinner with a buddy. I have been learning him bout good beer at the local brewery. Anyway, we went out to Chinese. He had a Coors light. He poured it into a glass, and there was a couple of swallows left in the bottle. Not being too scared, I Manned up and tried it... I didn’t die. In fact, hmmm, let me try that again. Not bad, I’m surprised. Taste is like... watered down apple juice.
A few days later I was relating this to another home brewer. He says he’ll hook me up with a good lager. Hence the Warsteiner. I will be on the lookout for other German beer to research.
I’m thinking I need to get a RO to properly do a lager. Which will be later this year, as I am planning on moving this summer.
Again thanks for the help and jibes. I do appreciate the humor and lip.
Cheers

 

[WestMichBrewer]

What started all this lager nonsense for me was, I went to dinner with a buddy. I have been learning him bout good beer at the local brewery. Anyway, we went out to Chinese. He had a Coors light. He poured it into a glass, and there was a couple of swallows left in the bottle. Not being too scared, I Manned up and tried it... I didn’t die. In fact, hmmm, let me try that again. Not bad, I’m surprised. Taste is like... watered down apple juice.
A few days later I was relating this to another home brewer. He says he’ll hook me up with a good lager. Hence the Warsteiner. I will be on the lookout for other German beer to research.
I’m thinking I need to get a RO to properly do a lager. Which will be later this year, as I am planning on moving this summer.
Again thanks for the help and jibes. I do appreciate the humor and lip.
Cheers

We had a German exchange student and her family sent me more than a few beers.
I liked them all, but recall Konig Pilsner in the tall can (no light skunking) as my favorite.
Lucky me we'll be heading there this spring so will get to try some closer to the source.

 

[Cavpilot2000]

I somehow can't get over the sheer number of people on here that brew with the goal of producing a product as bland and generic as Warsteiner, Bitburger, Krombacher and the likes.

If you hate flavour so much, why not stick with water?!

Because we haven't all killed out taste buds by hops overdose, and some of us like subtle flavors.

 

[Cavpilot2000]

I'm in the "I love German lagers, but not Warsteiner" camp, but if we all liked the same stuff, the world would be a boring place.
I just hate that it's the only beer they serve on Lufthansa (the only time I drink it).

 

[S-Met]

I still will swear to this day that the best beer I ever drank was more to do with the situation in which it was consumed rather than the quality of the beverage.

For reference, best beer I've ever drank was a Budweiser. I don't want another, I don't claim it to be great. Even then I knew it was a sh!t beer. Still, the situation>the brew.