Conan x WLP644 hybrid

[TravelingLight]

Is this something I should be cautious of? I've got mine on the stir plate as we speak.

Nah, m00ps is just clumsy. Just kidding, m00ps. I've had no problems with either of my strains. Haven't brewed with the C4 yet, but I've brewed with F1 twice and I've stepped up both multiple times with no issues.

 

[Ruckusz28]

Good deal. m00ps hooked me up. Just wanted to make sure my new speidel doesn't get converted to a sour fermenter.

 

[m00ps]

Is this something I should be cautious of? I've got mine on the stir plate as we speak.

Nah, your good. I had separate starters going for what I was going to pitch and what I was harvesting for myself and send you. I actually pitched the one I thought mightve been infected after tasting it right before. It seems the smell I was getting was just probably a bit of acetic acid due exposure to oxygen while I was away

 

[Ruckusz28]

After a week on the stir plate and 2 step-up's I finally am seeing signs of fermentation. I was getting worried there.

 

[TravelingLight]

After a week on the stir plate and 2 step-up's I finally am seeing signs of fermentation. I was getting worried there.

I've brewed with the F1 variant twice now. My second F1 beer is finishing dry hopping now. This was without question the most violent fermentation I've ever had. Even more violent than the first F1 beer I did. Not that I am complaining! This was the first beer I've have to dump out some of the blow off vessel because it was blowing crazy krausen. Even had some dried krausen on the outside rim of the bucket lid. Took this beer from 1.060 to 1.006 in no time at all. I swear I think this yeast is getting stronger the more I brew with it!!

 

[Ruckusz28]

Then it is possible that it fermented so quickly that I missed signs of activity. If that's the case... WOW.

 

[TheHairyHop]

Just wanted to report on my experiences with F1. Here's a couple of notable behaviors

1.) Finishes low gravity beers so quick that it is scary. I had a 1.055 get to FG at 3-4 days . Pitched with a starter and almost didn't have time to dry hop in primary

2.) After the first generation, it started floccing pretty well. I must admit that this was actually disappointing! My starters are always the most clear in the cabinet.

3.) I get quite a few spicy Belgian flavors from it. I quite like the taste!

So happy I got it! Thanks a ton

 

[jmark]

Is there anyone out there that would be willing to share a vial of each of these strains?

 

[90minman]

I would very thankful if someone was willing to share the F1 strand of this yeast. Please let me know if anyone with this strand would be willing to ship. Thanks.

 

[milldoggy]

The OP sent out a note a few weeks ago he will be culturing up some soon. I said I was in, waiting to here an update to send him some money.

 

[suregork]

Just wanted to report on my experiences with F1. Here's a couple of notable behaviors

1.) Finishes low gravity beers so quick that it is scary. I had a 1.055 get to FG at 3-4 days . Pitched with a starter and almost didn't have time to dry hop in primary

2.) After the first generation, it started floccing pretty well. I must admit that this was actually disappointing! My starters are always the most clear in the cabinet.

3.) I get quite a few spicy Belgian flavors from it. I quite like the taste!

So happy I got it! Thanks a ton

Glad you enjoyed the yeast Regarding #3 and the spicy flavors, it would unfortunately suggest that you have some kind of a contamination in your yeast cultures, as both of these hybrid strains are unable to produce 4-vinylguaiacol (i.e. the spicy phenolic flavor which I assume you are referring to).

I have a batch of yeast ready now, so in case anyone wants to try out the hybrid, please send an email to [my username] at gmail. For those that have already contacted me, I'll be sending out an email to you regarding payment information later today!

 

[TheHairyHop]

huh, interesting. I hadn't thought of that. It's a really benign flavor and I wouldn't expect it to be so subtle if it were a contamination. I could just be interpreting the flavor wrong. I am by no means a cicerone

 

[505-Brewer]

Interested in joining the party. Sent a PM. Cheers

 

[TheHairyHop]

Glad you enjoyed the yeast Regarding #3 and the spicy flavors, it would unfortunately suggest that you have some kind of a contamination in your yeast cultures, as both of these hybrid strains are unable to produce 4-vinylguaiacol (i.e. the spicy phenolic flavor which I assume you are referring to).

I have a batch of yeast ready now, so in case anyone wants to try out the hybrid, please send an email to [my username] at gmail. For those that have already contacted me, I'll be sending out an email to you regarding payment information later today!

I just tasted a sample from my most recent starter, and it was definitely fruit forward. I must have eaten something prior to my last tasting to really throw it off.

By reading your blog, I noticed that you do this as more than just a hobby. Do you, by any chance, happen to know much about glycerol production from beer yeast? I have access to journals from my .edu account and have been searching through literature in an attempt to maximize glycerol in my beers.

 

[milldoggy]

Any one else excited about getting their yeast, checking my mail daily.

 

[runs4beer]

Mine just landed!
Excited to get them started!

 

[505-Brewer]

Any one else excited about getting their yeast, checking my mail daily.

Yes! - though I t will take me a bit to get to where I can use it. Thinking NE style APA for it.

 

[505-Brewer]

Mine just landed!
Excited to get them started!

Cool. Hopefully mine is a day or two behind yours.......

 

[milldoggy]

Got mine, time to step up.

Made two 100 ml starters in beer bottles, just pitched.

 

[505-Brewer]

Got mine today. In fridge till I can get to it. Prob start stepping it up Mon night.

 

[Zelcs]

Well, it seems North America is closer to Finland then Northern Europe (Latvia). Still waiting for mine.

 

[Tybalthophead]

I just received my vials yesterday- thanks Suregork!

Ive not had experience in starting with small amounts like this and then stepping them up to pitch levels.

My plan is to try this with one of my NE IPA recipes which generally have OG around 1.068. Ive used commercially available London III and Conan strains in the past.

Would someone with more experience walk me through their process? Really psyched to try this out.

 

[milldoggy]

I just received my vials yesterday- thanks Suregork!

Ive not had experience in starting with small amounts like this and then stepping them up to pitch levels.

My plan is to try this with one of my NE IPA recipes which generally have OG around 1.068. Ive used commercially available London III and Conan strains in the past.

Would someone with more experience walk me through their process? Really psyched to try this out.

I made 200 ml starter, split into two beer bottles, so 100 ml each. I am going to let them ferment for 3 days and going to add 150 ml wort on top of each, after that move to a flask with 500 ml wort in it. Hope that worka

 

[runs4beer]

For each I made 100ml. starter of 1.020 wort in a mason jar and put it in the pressure cooker for 15 minutes, cooled and pitch the micro tubes I received. At the same time I prepared 200 ml jars of 1.040 wort the same way and will pitch the entire initial starter after 96 hours. Then 500ml to a full 2L starter from there I will divide and save some (frozen in glycerol) and grow some from an up coming batch.

 

[plazola86]

Received mine Friday! Going to start building them up today.

 

[runs4beer]

Mine was unaffected by the middle passage and jumped to life. Stepping up to 200 ml tonight.

 

[dryboroughbrewing]

Mine just arrived thanks so much! I'll get em ripping tonight.

 

[milldoggy]

Stepped up from 100ml to 350ml yesterday, rocking today, 48 more hrs and will add 500 ml more of 1.040

 

[Zelcs]

Mine just arrived.

 

[pricelessbrewing]

Man I had forgotten about this. I was in the initial send off in the milk the funk group. I think it's been almost a year now, never got around to using it or adding it to my bank. I don't think I'll be able to receive such a small cell count without drift in gene expression or mutation.

Anyone try this in a Ne IPA recipe yet?