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Interesting article. How long till homebrewers are doing genetic design on their yeasts? Anyone have good ideas of genes to modify?

This Biohacker Wants to Spur a Genetic Engineering Revolution With Glowing Beer
http://gizmodo.com/this-biohacker-wants-to-spur-a-genetic-engineering-revo-1789759826

Chris White was interviewed about these developments. You can make yeast that can ferment beers to very high ABV (say 20%+), or yeast that can convert/ ferment starches, rather than sugars, eliminating need for malting. Perhaps make yeast strains that never stall, don't produce off-flavors regardless of temperature/stress, enhance certain flavors, tune interactions with hops and malt, have much wider temperature range etc.

Potential problem is that many people don't like "genetically engineered" foods, so beer made with genetically engineered yeast may be ignored/boycotted due to these superstitions.
 
Member joined for the sole purpose of posting the link for SEO. Screw them.

Don't have any affiliation with Gizmodo and I wish I was paid for that link.

Actually, interested if people have thought about this and if they have genes they would engineer?

ATF1 I think is something that I am interested in for flavor and aroma.
 
Don't have any affiliation with Gizmodo and I wish I was paid for that link.

Actually, interested if people have thought about this and if they have genes they would engineer?

ATF1 I think is something that I am interested in for flavor and aroma.

I certainly hope I was wrong about you. I hope you become a productive member of the site. Head on over to the intro forum and tell us about your brewing experience and aspirations.
 
Earlier I made a comment, on second thought I don't feel this is the place to get into that discussion, not to mention I phrased it like an a**hole.

So I apologize to anyone I offended, and would rather keep this a friendly place about homebrewing than get into other discussions.
 
Way too early in genetic engineering for me. Until we know the consequences, I will avoid anything genetically modified if I find out that it has been modified. An example is a crop that has been modified to act like a pesticide. If it will kill, or even keep an insect from eating it, I do not want to eat it. I figure it is bad at best and toxic at worst.

I am all for progress but we need go slow to really know if something might be hazardous. I think of asbestos, lead paint, drugs that were supposed to be the cure all but caused more problems than cures.....
 
If you are an informed person who seeks information and knows about science, you would never eat/use a genetically modified product. Scientific studies which simply changed DNA then changed it back (so it is completely the same as it was before) have been shown to be able to cause cancerous growths. That means the PROCESS, not the changes made, can cause cancer.

I have a rather opposite view in this subject. From Wikipedia:

"Genetic modification involves the mutation, insertion, or deletion of genes. Inserted genes usually come from a different species in a form of horizontal gene-transfer. In nature this can occur when exogenous DNA penetrates the cell membrane for any reason.

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Other methods exploit natural forms of gene transfer, such as the ability of Agrobacterium to transfer genetic material to plants, or the ability of lentiviruses to transfer genes to animal cells."

So genetic modifications are not something new, they happen in the nature all the time. For example lager yeast S. pastorianus is a result of genome hybridization event between S. cerevisiae and S. eubayanus. Genetic engineering done in the laboratories is just a way to do these modifications in a controlled and speedy fashion, rather than trusting evolution, breeding or random mutagenesis to generate usable genetic modifications.

For example, nowadays new lager yeast strains can be created rapidly in the laboratory from S. cerevisiae and S. eubayanus parent strains. Since the resulting strains don't contain foreign DNA (DNA from some non-yeast organism), they are not even considered as GMO, although a genetic modification has clearly taken place. Use of foreign DNA expands the possibilities for the modifications, of which real-life examples include: yeast that can convert alpha-acetolactate to acetoin eliminating the need for diacetyl rest, and wine yeast that can perform malolactic fermentation on its own. The latter has been approved by health officials in USA and Canada and might already be used for commercial wine production.

There is lot of misinformation about this subject available, and even some falseful studies have been made (here is a news article about a scientific article which stated that GMO causes cancer but was later retracted). Here is also a long read about the subject of GMO food and controversies surrounding it.
 
If you are an informed person who seeks information and knows about science, you would never eat/use a genetically modified product. Scientific studies which simply changed DNA then changed it back (so it is completely the same as it was before) have been shown to be able to cause cancerous growths. That means the PROCESS, not the changes made, can cause cancer.

Cite your source. Otherwise you are just spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt over a process for no good reason.

Your wording in your first sentence reads like an accusation against people who do eat and/or use genetically modified products. Like you are accusing them of being uninformed and stupid.

Cite it instead of just expecting us to believe you are a good enough source.
 
As far as the article itself, a friend of mine and I thought of glowing beer a couple years ago. Another opportunity to be a millionaire gone...
 
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