kzeon
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bleh, that blows. All of mines areNone of the boxes were notched.
bleh, that blows. All of mines areNone of the boxes were notched.
damn!! and even proppered with the right vintage glass!
I dark an old barleywine. It was nice. Leather and tobacco for days, mild soy creeping in. No cardboard oxidation to speak of yet. Some sherry notes as well. Ages with the best of them.
We were playing cards at the same time so I don't have pics, but we finally dug into my Bells Expedition Stout library for a 5-year vertical. Quick thoughts:
2017 - Very rich, full and thick texture. Fudgy, with some piney hops that really popped when you went back to it after the older bottles.
2016 - Much the same, with a slight, predictable hop fade. Very bitter chocolate bar, some medium roast coffee.
2015 - This was the sweet spot for most of us. Not much hop bite to speak of. Begins to take on that liquid brownie batter sort of flavor. Still some firm bitterness, retains that full texture.
2014 - I think this might be my favorite. Much like the 2015, with just a touch of wine-like oxidation. Starting to get that plum/fig winter-fruit thing going on.
2013 - Oxidation is noticeable but not much to the beer's detriment. More obviously sherry-like, no cardboard. Lots of chocolate still, coffee, blackberry.
I still have a couple bottles each of the 2013/2014 batches, and I'm going to hold onto them indefinitely for, y'know, science. But as far as future intent goes, I'd drink these between 2-3 years.
That '07 was atypical, I don't think I've gotten that much straight cobweb from a Westy before and I've had much older ones than that one. That said, once you get to a certain point old beer is just a gamble. Also at this tasting we had a 2003 Goudenband and it had nothing like that, buuuut it was dead flat. There's usually something wrong with any old beer, often something disastrously wrong, but when they're on... *******.![]()
Did a mini-Westy vert with stupac2 and others (not sure if they are on TB): 17, 15, 11, and 07.
Haven't had a ton of experience with older quads, so this was fun and illuminating. I'm not sure how often they go in the old basement direction, but if they do, I might need to start making my way through the older quads I'm sitting on.
- 17 had a lot of your typical distinct big quad flavors and a more bitter than expected finish.
- 15 started to integrate the flavors a bit with the bitterness largely subsided
- 11 was even more rounded and I got notes of sherry in the nose (though not the actual taste). *side note - this was the last bottle from my very first beer pilgrimage in 2011 where I traded Russian River bottles for Westys because I thought that was the only way you could obtain Westy then. It was a very 2011 experience.
- 07 was a weird one for me. I still didn't get much oxidation, but there was a big musty basement smell/taste. Like I actually was trying to remember which childhood friend's basement it reminded me of. I believe others used the quasi-euphemism "cobwebs." It was honestly not particularly appealing to me, but very interesting nonetheless.
You mean the rauchbier?That '07 was atypical, I don't think I've gotten that much straight cobweb from a Westy before and I've had much older ones than that one. That said, once you get to a certain point old beer is just a gamble. Also at this tasting we had a 2003 Goudenband and it had nothing like that, buuuut it was dead flat. There's usually something wrong with any old beer, often something disastrously wrong, but when they're on... *******.
Not infected? Amazing!2013 B1 Rum King thanks to Fingolfin and Minnesotaryan. Opens with a fizz. Pours with decent head and some foam that sticks around for a while. Nose is very rum forward with some chocolate and oxidation. Taste is fairly flat and one dimensional. Boozy rum in the front with some generic aged stout notes to round it out. Minimal carbonation. It's definitely over the hill but still has some life left in it thanks to the huge rum presence. Thanks for the treat fellas!
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Not even in the slightest! Getting better as it warms up too.Not infected? Amazing!
2011 Old Stock Brandy Barrel so released in 2013 I believe.
Don't ask me why but I bought a case of these at the time because Pennsylvania. Never had a ton of carb but is pretty much still at this point. Barely made a sound when I pulled the cork. Smell is still amazing boozy raisins/plums. Delicious but almost too sweet for my palate right now. Maybe dropping off a bit from the last one I drank 6-8 months ago.