can you make a beer with no barley, using wheat and oats?

[RWurster]

First beer I ever brewed was a 100% wheat beer and I made it according to the basic brewing guys video. I just finished malting 30# of wheat so I will be brewing their recipe again. The biggest reason I started with a 100% wheat beer is that wheat was the only grain I had on hand as I bought 500# of raw wheat from a local farmer. Every 3rd batch of beer I brew is the 100% wheat beer, I really enjoy the taste. The only problems I have had is incomplete conversion of the starches to sugars (iodine test) but my OG have always been between 1.048 and 1.052. I like the 100% wheat batches more than other hefeweisen I have brewed but I think its the hops that make that difference (Hallertau vs Saaz).

One good question is how to make the conversion of starches to sugars more complete in the wort. The basic recipe with malted wheat is:

rest @ 114 for 25
take out 40% decoction and bring to 157 for 20, boil for 20 then add back
bring to 147 for 20
bring to 158 for 30
then 168 for mashout <--- (iodine test black but hitting preboil OG)

remove grain and start 90 minute boil

Does the incomplete conversion even matter since the OG is attained? maybe a longer rest somewhere?

 

[Drewch]

1) Home malted corn, with random "popcorn" strain corn

What viability did you get from the popcorn? Did most of it germinate or were a lot of the kernels duds?

 

[VikeMan]

What viability did you get from the popcorn? Did most of it germinate or were a lot of the kernels duds?

All, or virtually all, of the kernels germinated by the time I called it done, but the degree of modification was clearly pretty variable.

 

[Drewch]

All, or virtually all, of the kernels germinated by the time I called it done, but the degree of modification was clearly pretty variable.

Some other places on the internet were reporting low (30-40%) viability: your report gives me added hope for my own planned attempt at home malting popcorn.

 

[BrewingWisdom]

Many of us regularly violate that though since we also use priming sugar when we bottle.

So in old times the beer was flat without any carbonation ?

 

[bracconiere]

So in old times the beer was flat without any carbonation ?

i've learned the cool kids call it cask beer, they didn't have refrigeration either, so it was served at basement temperature too....apparently with a hand pump?

 

[VikeMan]

So in old times the beer was flat without any carbonation ?

No. Under the Reinheitsgebot, you can carbonate, but you can't do it by adding sugar that wasn't produced from malt. One way to do it would be by Krausening, i.e. adding a small amount of fermenting wort to the already fermented beer. Another way would be by adding Speise, i.e. unfermented wort, to the already fermented beer.

 

[Miraculix]

My all oat beer turned out good it was a stout , the one thing I realized without barley the beer looks like chocolate milk though it tastes fine it's really cloudy. It also has a very fiberoud effect , i will just leave it at that

How is the foam?

 

[bracconiere]

How is the foam?

your comment and joe's.... joe you do deculm your malt right? that sounds like rootlets?

 

[Miraculix]

your comment and joe's.... joe you do deculm your malt right? that sounds like rootlets?

I was thinking about adding "(the beer's)" before the question mark

 

[bracconiere]

I was thinking about adding "(the beer's)" before the question mark

i honestly have no idea what you just said...but seriously if you don't remove the rootlets, the beer is like plant milk!

 

[Miraculix]

i honestly have no idea what you just said...but seriously if you don't remove the rootlets, the beer is like plant milk!

Woooooaaa so much marketing potential aiming at the vegan burger crowd! Think about it! Oat milk milk stout!

 

[bracconiere]

Woooooaaa so much marketing potential aiming at the vegan burger crowd! Think about it! Oat milk milk stout!

man i was just getting ready for bed at 2:30am.....and now i'm not sure after a laugh like that.....and it "may contain trace amounts of alcohol" right?


and if were talking oat beer, "beyond beer"....

 

[Miraculix]

man i was just getting ready for bed at 2:30am.....and now i'm not sure after a laugh like that.....and it "may contain trace amounts of alcohol" right?


and if were talking oat beer, "beyond beer"....

Brilliant

 

[The Mad Brewer]

not present, but i normally dont like alot

How is the foam

 

[The Mad Brewer]

your comment and joe's.... joe you do deculm your malt right? that sounds like rootlets?

i do but prolly not as throughly as i should

 

[The Mad Brewer]

i use a metal seive collandar, then go back an forty in the wind between buckets, maybe need to do smaller amounts each pass or find a netter way

 

[bracconiere]

i use a metal seive collandar, then go back an forty in the wind between buckets, maybe need to do smaller amounts each pass or find a netter way

you need to do the bucket to bucket with a box fan blowing....