Budweiser Clone Recip Needed for an Experienced Brewer

[agslax]

What about with rice flakes or rice syrup solids?

 

[roastquake]

The idea behind any flaked cereal gain is that they are pre-cooked so no special mashing is required save maybe a protein rest. Instant rice is no different it's just pre-cooked so you can just add it to hot water, let it sit, and eat it. I think the syrup solids can go right in the boil, I've never used it because rice is so much cheaper.

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

You dont have to do a cereal mash on instant/minute rice, it can be added to straight in with a single infusion

That's what I meant but stupid auto correct changed it to about instead of avoid. Ugh

 

[agslax]

let grain rest at 120 before working with rice, rice should be milled to resemble malt-o-meal. Bring 5 gal. to boil, add rice, stir until thick, turn off heat, lower temp of rice with cold water to 150 and add 2# milled two-row, let set 20 minuets, turn heat back on and bring rice to boil, stiring constantly, do not let rice scorch, this is very important and also very labor intensive, once rice has boiled for 5 minuets turn heat off and add rice to main mash, use gloves, once rice has been stired in to main mash temp should be very close to 148, mash one hour,

Getting time to brew and I want to clarify in case this is the route I go.

While all but 2 pounds of the two-row is resting in 120 degree water, add milled rice to 5 gallons of boiling water in a separate pot.

Stir, turn off heat, and lower temp to 150.

Add 2 pounds of two-row in a grain bag to the rice/water and let sit for 20 minutes.

Remove grain, turn heat back on, and bring rice and water back to a boil. After 5 minutes, turn off heat and add rice and all liquid to the main mash that has been sitting near 120. Let all this sit for one more hour before lautering.

Is this correct? I am mostly concerned with the 2 lbs of two-row in the rice and what that is supposed to do.

 

[roastquake]

Hmm I should have reviewed that before posting, It's different from what I read in the book, sorry. Here's exactly how I do a cereal mash with rice, it's different still, but easier and works the same without having two mashes going:

1. I boil the rice in my mash water for about 10 minutes, stirring to avoid scorching

2. bring the temp down to 120 and add 6-row, allow for a protein rest, raise temp to 150 to allow the highly-enzymatic 6-row to start working on the rice for about 30 minutes.

3. add the rest on the malt (2-row and whatever specialty grains) and mash as usual

It makes for a long brew-day

you may want to use some rice hulls to avoid a stuck lauter/sparge.

Or you could avoid this altogether by using flaked or intstant rice. That's what I've done for last two cream ales (which where VERY close to Bud). Just do a single infusion, you can add the processed rice right in... so easy compared to a cereal mash, and it tastes the same in the end.

Again, sorry for causing confusion

 

[roastquake]

The five gallons was throwing me off, looks like that was an 10 gallon recipe given

 

[progmac]

cry havoc (white labs 862) is also rumored to be the budweiser strain

 

[agslax]

Hmm I should have reviewed that before posting, It's different from what I read in the book, sorry. Here's exactly how I do a cereal mash with rice, it's different still, but easier and works the same without having two mashes going:

1. I boil the rice in my mash water for about 10 minutes, stirring to avoid scorching

2. bring the temp down to 120 and add 6-row, allow for a protein rest, raise temp to 150 to allow the highly-enzymatic 6-row to start working on the rice for about 30 minutes.

3. add the rest on the malt (2-row and whatever specialty grains) and mash as usual

It makes for a long brew-day

you may want to use some rice hulls to avoid a stuck lauter/sparge.

Or you could avoid this altogether by using flaked or intstant rice. That's what I've done for last two cream ales (which where VERY close to Bud). Just do a single infusion, you can add the processed rice right in... so easy compared to a cereal mash, and it tastes the same in the end.

Again, sorry for causing confusion

Not a problem! I will probably go the flaked rice or syrup route, but I wanted to know just in case I couldn't get me hands on them tonight or if I was up to the challenge. Thanks again for your time!