Bruery Reserve Society 2014 Allocations/Discussion Thread

[3rdto1st1]

To each his own of course but I actually think the best variant is the shelf bourbon one. All of them are pretty good and very different, which is good. We also drank about 6x Hottenroth as palate cleansers in between each barrel.

Huh, interesting. We'll see what happens, but no Hottenroth for us, just straight water lol

 

[mhenson421]

Just buy a CO2 tank, regulator and a hose with the a ball-lock attachment and a carbonater cap like this....

http://www.amazon.com/LiquidBread-The-Carbonater/dp/B0064OKADS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413320759&sr=8-1&keywords=carbonator cap

fill up 16 oz plastic soda bottles with any left over high-ABV Bruery beer and pressurize. The beer will last as long as you want. You can drink a single bottle of BT/GM/CR etc.. or whatever over the course of months if you want. I use this method with growlers as well or anything I don't want to finish in a single sitting.

Will cost you about $125 or so to buy the equipment ... Which is nominal considering the cost of the beer. If you homebrew you probably have some of that stuff anyway

 

[kscaldef]

Just buy a CO2 tank, regulator and a hose with the a ball-lock attachment and a carbonater cap like this....

http://www.amazon.com/LiquidBread-The-Carbonater/dp/B0064OKADS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413320759&sr=8-1&keywords=carbonator cap

fill up 16 oz plastic soda bottles with any left over high-ABV Bruery beer and pressurize. The beer will last as long as you want. You can drink a single bottle of BT/GM/CR etc.. or whatever over the course of months if you want. I use this method with growlers as well or anything I don't want to finish in a single sitting.

Will cost you about $125 or so to buy the equipment ... Which is nominal considering the cost of the beer. If you homebrew you probably have some of that stuff anyway

Yes, that's a far more reasonable solution than the brewery packaging the beer in smaller formats.

 

[matedog]

Just buy a CO2 tank, regulator and a hose with the a ball-lock attachment and a carbonater cap like this....

http://www.amazon.com/LiquidBread-The-Carbonater/dp/B0064OKADS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413320759&sr=8-1&keywords=carbonator cap

fill up 16 oz plastic soda bottles with any left over high-ABV Bruery beer and pressurize. The beer will last as long as you want. You can drink a single bottle of BT/GM/CR etc.. or whatever over the course of months if you want. I use this method with growlers as well or anything I don't want to finish in a single sitting.

Will cost you about $125 or so to buy the equipment ... Which is nominal considering the cost of the beer. If you homebrew you probably have some of that stuff anyway

That's waaaaaaay too much work for me.

 

[mhenson421]

Yes, that's a far more reasonable solution than the brewery packaging the beer in smaller formats.

I'm sure when market forces dictate smaller format packaging, then there will be smaller format packaging. For now, it doesn't appear they are having any problems selling the beer in its current format. The Bruery isn't forcing anyone to buy their beer.

So it's any easy solution.

 

[kscaldef]

In other random complaints, does the membership fee seem like a worse deal this year than in the past? (Can't actually find the list of included bottles for HS the last couple years.) 19 bottles included for $695 works out to $36.60 a bottle, when no beer has ever cost more than $32 with the Hoarder's discount. Alternatively, if you valued each included bottle at $32 (which is obviously high for some of them), the "high quality merchandise" is costing you $87.

I'm sure someone will chime in now to say how you're paying for the privilege of paying for exclusive events, draft pours, growler fills, etc. I counter with: I've been a member of many wine clubs over the years and never been expected to pay extra for such benefits. On the contrary, in every wine club I've encountered, I agree to buy N bottles a year from them (usually 6-12), at a discounted price, and in exchange I get all the perks the Bruery offers me and more.

 

[hi im richie]

Could be worse, it could be Upland.

 

[Xul1]

In other random complaints, does the membership fee seem like a worse deal this year than in the past? (Can't actually find the list of included bottles for HS the last couple years.) 19 bottles included for $695 works out to $36.60 a bottle, when no beer has ever cost more than $32 with the Hoarder's discount. Alternatively, if you valued each included bottle at $32 (which is obviously high for some of them), the "high quality merchandise" is costing you $87.

They value the bottles pre-discount. Guessing at next year:
Included in the Initial Package, available in January^^
-- 3 bottles of Mocha Wednesday™ - $40
-- 2 bottles of Port Barrel Aged Black Tuesday® (Hoarders Exclusive) - $30 (?)
-- 2 bottles of Madeira Barrel Aged Black Tuesday® (Hoarders Exclusive) - $30 (?)
-- 1 piece of high quality merchandise

Available later in 2015, upon announcement
-- 2 bottles of Wineification III (Society Exclusive) - $40
-- 2 bottles Barrel Aged 7 Swans-A-Swimming™ - $25
-- 2 bottles of Black Tuesday® Reserve (Hoarders Exclusive) - $40 (?)
-- 2 bottles of Mystery Beer #1 - $25
-- 2 bottles of Mélange #10 (Hoarders Exclusive) - $25-30
-- 2 bottles of Mélange #11 (Hoarders Exclusive) - $25-30

That would only work out to $600-$620 depending on Melange pricing...maybe Port BT and Madiera BT are classified as $40 bottles, that would bring it up to $640-$660. Kinda hard to work out the values with what are basically three mystery beers.

 

[kscaldef]

They value the bottles pre-discount.

They may value them that way, but I'm not sure why I should. If they offer additional bottles, the marginal cost to me will be the discounted price. And every wine club I've encountered only charged members the discounted price for the club bottles. At the prices that the Bruery charges, I'm not sure why I shouldn't expect them to do the same.

 

[wyatt1]

I, for one, can't wait to dome a BT reserve.

 

[hi im richie]

They may value them that way, but I'm not sure why I should. If they offer additional bottles, the marginal cost to me will be the discounted price. And every wine club I've encountered only charged members the discounted price for the club bottles. At the prices that the Bruery charges, I'm not sure why I shouldn't expect them to do the same.

Compare The Bruery's model to other brewery reserve societies/clubs. The Bruery's model isn't a wine of the month club. Just seems silly to pick them apart for this when it's clear how they value their beer for the membership.

 

[3rdto1st1]

They may value them that way, but I'm not sure why I should. If they offer additional bottles, the marginal cost to me will be the discounted price. And every wine club I've encountered only charged members the discounted price for the club bottles. At the prices that the Bruery charges, I'm not sure why I shouldn't expect them to do the same.

So don't join. There are hundreds of Reserve and thousands of Preservation members who would love the spot.

 

[kscaldef]

Compare The Bruery's model to other brewery reserve societies/clubs. The Bruery's model isn't a wine of the month club.

I'm not talking about a "wine of the month club". I'm talking about the direct wine club sales of multiple highly-rated, award-winning wineries. The Bruery is pursuing the same model as wineries and should be held up to the same standards.

So don't join. There are hundreds of Reserve and thousands of Preservation members who would love the spot.

Cool, go at it.

 

[ridglens]

I would guess that most of the included bottles are probably in the $40+ range (BT Reserve, whatever the **** that is, is probably like $239), didn't Patrick say something about that when Hoarders started? That he wanted to make even more expensive small batch beer but wasn't comfortable actually putting that price tag on it, so it would be part of hoarders?

I'm ok with a $40 beer once in a while (assuming it's awesome), but paying for a case+ of them all at once and months in advance does kinda suck (while also paying for Black Tuesday). Oh well, splitting with 2 extra people this year, so that helps.


And as previously mentioned.... at least it's not Upland!

 

[Boilerfood]

The fact of the matter seems to be that their societies are more and more beneficial to people who live locally to The Bruery, and their die hard fan boys. The vast majority of us who like the beers, but are chaffed by the increasing prices and QA issues don't get the same ROI as the previous groups do.

What I find interesting, is that locally Upland is getting destroyed for not taking care of their initial customer base. I don't think there is a right answer.

 

[ridglens]

The fact of the matter seems to be that their societies are more and more beneficial to people who live locally to The Bruery, and their die hard fan boys. The vast majority of us who like the beers, but are chaffed by the increasing prices and QA issues don't get the same ROI as the previous groups do.

What I find interesting, is that locally Upland is getting destroyed for not taking care of their initial customer base. I don't think there is a right answer.

Upland is getting killed because they are charging $250 without $250 (or even close to it) worth of tangible value. Bruery prices with/without discount, merch price, etc leave maybe $50 up in the air (though i would guess that the new/included beer is probably very expensive), but Upland's $250 plan for 2 glasses, a funk-fest ticket, and maybe some other small events but ZERO beer is nuts (IMO), and I live 15 minutes from the brewery. And their excuse about discounts/etc not being allowed is laughable, as they also have a "mug club" that discounts pours of on-tap beer (or rather, you get a larger serving for the same price). They could at a minimum include "mug club" membership to the sour members for some added value and they don't, but i digress... In any case, i'm not very interested, as I think Uplands sours have gotten progressively worse over the last 3-4 years (especially at $25 a pop).

 

[Usofar]

Upland is getting killed because they are charging $250 without $250 (or even close to it) worth of tangible value. Bruery prices with/without discount, merch price, etc leave maybe $50 up in the air (though i would guess that the new/included beer is probably very expensive), but Upland's $250 plan for 2 glasses, a funk-fest ticket, and maybe some other small events but ZERO beer is nuts (IMO), and I live 15 minutes from the brewery. And their excuse about discounts/etc not being allowed is laughable, as they also have a "mug club" that discounts pours of on-tap beer (or rather, you get a larger serving for the same price). They could at a minimum include "mug club" membership to the sour members for some added value and they don't, but i digress... In any case, i'm not very interested, as I think Uplands sours have gotten progressively worse over the last 3-4 years (especially at $25 a pop).

I'll add to that, and say that concern is something Patrick has addressed in the past on BA. If raised there it may result in a change, but without knowing the cost of the Hoarders only beers or the merchandise it's hard to judge whether the value is there or not. They've added bottles to the RS allocations in the past (at least once) when it didn't add up. For whatever reason the Bruery doesn't post on this board but I'm sure their staff reads it and is aware of what's being said.

 

[daniel1]

For whatever reason the Bruery doesn't post on this board but I'm sure their staff reads it and is aware of what's being said.

They don't post here because we're a bunch of animals who don't respect beer.

 

[waltersrj]

 

[waltersrj]

I bet this Raccoon wished they lived in Seattle or Portland instead of Louisiana...

 

[johnnyramirez]

Today we'd like to let you in on what exactly the Hoarders Society exclusive beer, Black Tuesday Reserve will be. This small batch beer is the result of aging our Black Tuesday imperial stout in bourbon barrels for a year, then racking the beer into more, newly obtained bourbon barrels and allowing it to age for yet another year. We are all eagerly awaiting the bottling of this beer as it is sure to be amazing.

 

[stupac2]

Today we'd like to let you in on what exactly the Hoarders Society exclusive beer, Black Tuesday Reserve will be. This small batch beer is the result of aging our Black Tuesday imperial stout in bourbon barrels for a year, then racking the beer into more, newly obtained bourbon barrels and allowing it to age for yet another year. We are all eagerly awaiting the bottling of this beer as it is sure to be amazing.

Really?

 

[tinypyramids1]

they found a way to make black tuesday even boozier!

 

[abecall98]

Today we'd like to let you in on what exactly the Hoarders Society exclusive beer, Black Tuesday Reserve will be. This small batch beer is the result of aging our Black Tuesday imperial stout in bourbon barrels for a year, then racking the beer into more, newly obtained bourbon barrels and allowing it to age for yet another year. We are all eagerly awaiting the bottling of this beer as it is sure to be amazing.

HNNNNGNGGGGNGNGNGNGNGNGNG

 

[Xul1]

Today we'd like to let you in on what exactly the Hoarders Society exclusive beer, Black Tuesday Reserve will be. This small batch beer is the result of aging our Black Tuesday imperial stout in bourbon barrels for a year, then racking the beer into more, newly obtained bourbon barrels and allowing it to age for yet another year. We are all eagerly awaiting the bottling of this beer as it is sure to be amazing.

So it will be a blindingly boozy version of BT with a little more oxidation? That seems pretty underwhelming.

Didn't even get this morning's email, was there anything else interesting in it?

 

[CommanderofAwesome]

HNNNNGNGGGGNGNGNGNGNGNGNG

This.

 

[LawIsTheUT]

So it will be a blindingly boozy version of BT with a little more oxidation? That seems pretty underwhelming.

Didn't even get this morning's email, was there anything else interesting in it?

It is an e-mail trying to get people to renew Hoarders. Just mentioned that they had introduced Arbre and Chronology. Also list what you get with Hoarders for next year.

 

[Xul1]

It is an e-mail trying to get people to renew Hoarders. Just mentioned that they had introduced Arbre and Chronology. Also list what you get with Hoarders for next year.

Gotcha. I wonder if it only went to people who were invited but hadn't actually renewed/upgraded? I'm an existing HS member and renewed, so kinda weird that I didn't receive it.

 

[johnnyramirez]

I'm interested to tick it and see how boozy it is. Also curious to see what the ABV will be

 

[abecall98]

I'm interested to tick it and see how boozy it is. Also curious to see what the ABV will be

I'd guess maybe 21-22%.