Bavarian Lager: Wyeast 2206 vs Mangrove Jack´s M76

[cederbusch]

Going to give THIS Kellerbier a go.

He promotes Wyeast´s 2206 Bavarian Lager for this. But my local shop have Mangrove Jack´s M76 Bavarian Lager dry yeast on stock. are these equivalent?

 

[friarsmith]

I've used WY2206 a few times and M76 twice in a bock, helles and dunkel. They perform in a similar manner in terms of good floc, attenuation and low sulfur production-- much like my usual workhorse lager yeasts (Imperial-Harvest and WLP 838) that I mostly use in more malt-forward lagers. I think M76 would be fine in a kellerbier.

I've seen a few comparisons on the interwebs equating M76 to 34/70. IMO, all things held constant, M76 produces a more malt-forward, richer beer than 34/70.

 

[dmtaylor]

They are both good yeasts, not equivalent but both good. I find that Wyeast 2206 produces a more traditional lager, whereas M76 or W-34/70 might not be quite as clean and malt-forward as the 2206. As for the differences between M76 and W-34/70... no one really knows for sure yet, but I've placed my bets:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16XRUloO3WXqH9Ixsf5vx2DIKDmrEQJ36tLRBmmya7Jo/edit?usp=sharing

 

[monkeymath]

I think I've never come across an amber Kellberbier. 35 IBU is not nearly in line with my experience of these beers, which are usually just slightly hazy versions of a Helles. See for example this one by Ayinger:

https://www.ayinger.de/cms/index.php/kellerbier.html
Can anyone name some commercial examples of the beer described? I'd like to try it.

 

[stefansjs]

Personally my favorite Kellerbier is Zirndorfer. I've never seen it outside of Bavaria, but here's some photos for reference Noch ein paar Kellerbiere oder wie sich die immer nennen – Meine Bierseite.

My experience is that Kellerbier is not as light as a helles, but just a shade lighter than a dunkles, and quite a bit lighter than a porter/stout. It's got a really balanced character all around. Basically no hoppy flavor; not too dark; not too carbonated. I love it as a park beer. It's definitely very sessionable, a little bit on the malty side for a german beer, but not what you think of when you think of light session lagers.