American IPA Base Pale Ale Recipe for Single hop Beers

[lumbergh]

Yes with us-05

 

[Dgallo]

Yes with us-05

I target 68 and then bring it to 70-72 to d-rest

 

[lumbergh]

I brewed a fumbled 1.75g version of this the other night with columbus, galaxy (FO) and mosaic (WP). I miscalculated my boil and ended up with 1.5g and didn't put my WP hops in until it was at 110F (got distracted during cooling). Also mashed a bit higher than I wanted to. Lessons learned. Fingers crossed

Should I dry hop with columbus and/or mosaic? (I'm out of galaxy)

 

[elproducto]

I would really like to find a way to make a split batch of this in my Grainfather. Like 5 gallon batch split evenly but with totally different hops. I'm reluctant to brew 5 gallons of Ekuanot beer in case it's terrible.

 

[Dgallo]

I would really like to find a way to make a split batch of this in my Grainfather. Like 5 gallon batch split evenly but with totally different hops. I'm reluctant to brew 5 gallons of Ekuanot beer in case it's terrible.

Can you drain the grainfather at anytime?

 

[elproducto]

Yeah I think the best way is to mash and sparge and before boiling pump out half the volume into a bucket. Brew twice.

 

[Dgallo]

Yeah I think the best way is to mash and sparge and before boiling pump out half the volume into a bucket. Brew twice.

Do you have a 3 gallon kettle where you could do one on the stove?

 

[elproducto]

Do you have a 3 gallon kettle where you could do one on the stove?

I do, the issue would be chilling as I use counterflow. I'll probably split pre-boil and do two separate brews.

 

[lumbergh]

I bottled my version tonight. It tasted better than I had expected. It had tons of hop flavor. I was expecting some dankness from the columbus, but I got none at all. It was all fruit.

 

[treacheroustexan]

Going to give this a shot with Galena!

 

[Knightshade]

Going to give this a shot with Galena!

Would love to hear a report back on how this turns out. I've got a 8 oz bag of Galena and only 1 recipe which calls for it...in the amount of one flipping ounce.

I've got a batch of this with Vic Secret right now. It was an open bag, and I was worried about it getting old so I just decided to go with it. Had a little less than an ounce left after setting aside what I needed for the dry hop, so I setup a hop cage in the keg I'm planning on racking it to. I'll let it sit in there for a week at temp, then transfer to a serving keg.

 

[hopfenstopfen]

Would love to hear a report back on how this turns out. I've got a 8 oz bag of Galena and only 1 recipe which calls for it...in the amount of one flipping ounce.

I've got a batch of this with Vic Secret right now. It was an open bag, and I was worried about it getting old so I just decided to go with it. Had a little less than an ounce left after setting aside what I needed for the dry hop, so I setup a hop cage in the keg I'm planning on racking it to. I'll let it sit in there for a week at temp, then transfer to a serving keg.

Report back on the vic secret! I did this recipe a while back with an open bag of vic. The vic secret was not good, but really liked the recipe anyway if that makes sense.

 

[treacheroustexan]

Would love to hear a report back on how this turns out. I've got a 8 oz bag of Galena and only 1 recipe which calls for it...in the amount of one flipping ounce.

I've got a batch of this with Vic Secret right now. It was an open bag, and I was worried about it getting old so I just decided to go with it. Had a little less than an ounce left after setting aside what I needed for the dry hop, so I setup a hop cage in the keg I'm planning on racking it to. I'll let it sit in there for a week at temp, then transfer to a serving keg.

I’ll be hanging around this thread and will keep you updated! Probably won’t get to brew it until next week unless I do a small one gallon batch and scale it up if it’s good.

 

[lumbergh]

It's been a little over 2 weeks since bottling, so I tried one last night. Carbonation is right and it has a nice, white fluffy head. The awesome fruity flavor and aroma have almost completely disappeared. I'm careful to minimize oxidation when bottling. I'm not sure where my flavor went. I do plan on getting a keg setup later in the year.

 

[Knightshade]

Vic Secret

So I force carbed at 35 psi, at 34 degree’ish for 3 days. Keeping in mind, it is sitting on 2 oz of hop pellets in the keg too. So I’m testing/tasting right at the head of it being ready.

The batch is definitely prettier than my Galaxy one, but that has nothing to do with hops.

Definite tropical aromas, with a bit of piney. Tropical character there in the body, feels like a bit of tangerine as well. That pine though...in the finish and just seems to linger in the mouth as an aftertaste.

Not sure if that is the hop, or a sign that I should transfer to a diff keg to get them off of the hops. Thoughts?

 

[Knightshade]

I racked this to a cleaned and sanitized keg this afternoon. I'll report back if doing this made a difference later this evening.

 

[lumbergh]

Tastes much better this week. This is the best head retention and lacing of anything I have made.

 

[DVCNick]

After having a Sloop "Sabro Bomb" a while back and thinking it was awesome, I dropped the Sabro version in the fermenter yesterday. Coming out of the kettle, it had that same pronounced orange aroma remember from the Sloop, so I have high hopes.

 

[VirginiaHops1]

Vic Secret

So I force carbed at 35 psi, at 34 degree’ish for 3 days. Keeping in mind, it is sitting on 2 oz of hop pellets in the keg too. So I’m testing/tasting right at the head of it being ready.

The batch is definitely prettier than my Galaxy one, but that has nothing to do with hops.

Definite tropical aromas, with a bit of piney. Tropical character there in the body, feels like a bit of tangerine as well. That pine though...in the finish and just seems to linger in the mouth as an aftertaste.

Not sure if that is the hop, or a sign that I should transfer to a diff keg to get them off of the hops. Thoughts?

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Anytime someone uses the term 'lingering', it makes me think astringency. Normal beer flavors even pine or dank shouldn't linger for an unpleasant amount of time. Hopefully getting off the hops helps. FWIW I did a single hop pale ale awhile back with Vic Secret and different grain bill(heavy vienna) and it was a tropical juice bomb. Not that that means anything, I know different years and lots of the same hop can vary dramatically

 

[Knightshade]

Anytime someone uses the term 'lingering', it makes me think astringency. Normal beer flavors even pine or dank shouldn't linger for an unpleasant amount of time. Hopefully getting off the hops helps. FWIW I did a single hop pale ale awhile back with Vic Secret and different grain bill(heavy vienna) and it was a tropical juice bomb. Not that that means anything, I know different years and lots of the same hop can vary dramatically

Astringent...is exactly what it is. Having read about it, but not yet having the misfortune of having brewed a beer with it evident I wasn’t sure that it was. I do know, thanks for classifying what I was tasting.

Glad I did decide to transfer off of those additional hops in the keg? Not sure if those may have attributed, and as of yesterday still pretty harsh. I’ll give it another week or two?

 

[VirginiaHops1]

Astringent...is exactly what it is. Having read about it, but not yet having the misfortune of having brewed a beer with it evident I wasn’t sure that it was. I do know, thanks for classifying what I was tasting.

Glad I did decide to transfer off of those additional hops in the keg? Not sure if those may have attributed, and as of yesterday still pretty harsh. I’ll give it another week or two?

I think it was definitely the right move to get off the hops. I've had astringent beers. Early in my brewing days I think it may have been due to water issues or other things in my system not being buttoned up. Now, if I do get it it's mainly from the hop polyphenols. Galaxy is notorious for it and has caused me problems, and Vic Secret supposedly is similarly high in polyphenols. If that's the issue it should settle down with some conditioning time.

 

[lumbergh]

I am thinking about making this with mandarina bavaria. I've heard it's a little one note though. What should I pair it with? Cascade?

Also thinking about making this with Green Bullet. How does that work as a single hop? Would it be better to pair it with something?

The other hops I have are crystal, cluster, cascade, columbus cryo, mosaic, nugget, tetnannger, loral, ahntanum, warrior, pahto, wakatu, magnum and mt hood (I got the AIH grab bag deal recently)

 

[Dgallo]

I am thinking about making this with mandarina bavaria. I've heard it's a little one note though. What should I pair it with? Cascade?

Also thinking about making this with Green Bullet. How does that work as a single hop? Would it be better to pair it with something?

The other hops I have are crystal, cluster, cascade, columbus cryo, mosaic, nugget, tetnannger, loral, ahntanum, warrior, pahto, wakatu, magnum and mt hood (I got the AIH grab bag deal recently)

This recipe is actually intended to be used for single hopped beers. It’s so you can learn what the specific hop brings to the table, which will help you pair it with other hops in the future. I would personally advise you to do a single hop mandarina, I don’t think the hops one demential at all. Floral, orange blossom, orange/citrus. I really liked it.

All that said, you can certainly use this recipe for non single hop beers. Mandarina pairs well with anything citrus or fruit forward.

 

[Knightshade]

I think it was definitely the right move to get off the hops. I've had astringent beers. Early in my brewing days I think it may have been due to water issues or other things in my system not being buttoned up. Now, if I do get it it's mainly from the hop polyphenols. Galaxy is notorious for it and has caused me problems, and Vic Secret supposedly is similarly high in polyphenols. If that's the issue it should settle down with some conditioning time.

I’m liking at..sheesh. 02/07 brew date and I feel like this is finally palatable. Not eager to share with anybody as it isn’t anything to scream about. Not sure if it is a characteristic of the hop, or the fact that I dry hopped in keg. Probably going to shy away from dry hopping in keg based off this experience? I don’t know..

Aroma is pretty damn nice with tropical notes being ridiculous. Just the finish...not what I’d like. Lingering bitterness...not unpleasant but...

Not something that I’d get a taster of and say...oh, let me get a pint of this.

Which shouldn’t surprise me too much...I had a “pro” SH DDH Vic Secret pale ale locally that I wasn’t too high on either?

Everything I’ve read (post brew..ugh) isVic Secret is mostly used in Whirlpool and Dry Hop. Makes me wonder if for the same reason(s) I’m dealing with?

Not dumping it for sure, just wish it was better.

 

[popquizkid]

I’m liking at..sheesh. 02/07 brew date and I feel like this is finally palatable. Not eager to share with anybody as it isn’t anything to scream about. Not sure if it is a characteristic of the hop, or the fact that I dry hopped in keg. Probably going to shy away from dry hopping in keg based off this experience? I don’t know..

Aroma is pretty damn nice with tropical notes being ridiculous. Just the finish...not what I’d like. Lingering bitterness...not unpleasant but...

Not something that I’d get a taster of and say...oh, let me get a pint of this.

Which shouldn’t surprise me too much...I had a “pro” SH DDH Vic Secret pale ale locally that I wasn’t too high on either?

Everything I’ve read (post brew..ugh) isVic Secret is mostly used in Whirlpool and Dry Hop. Makes me wonder if for the same reason(s) I’m dealing with?

Not dumping it for sure, just wish it was better.

I just brewed this with Vic Secret and will let you know how it turns out. Dry hopped in fermentor. Cold crashing now and will be packaging a a day or two.

 

[elproducto]

I did a single hop Vic Secret recently. This recipe, but moved everything to the whirpool and dry hop. First Time using Vic Secret and it was incredible! Totally holds up on it's own.

 

[lumbergh]

I did a single hop Vic Secret recently. This recipe, but moved everything to the whirpool and dry hop. First Time using Vic Secret and it was incredible! Totally holds up on it's own.

What amounts of hops did you use? I was thinking about doing the same thing.

 

[elproducto]

6oz. total for 5 gallons.

2 oz. in the whirlpool at 170F
4 oz. dry hop.

Tons of bitterness, these hops are no joke. 19.5AA the lot I have.

 

[BeerFst]

It wasn't a single hop, and not this grain bill but I just did a beer with 6 oz VS (2 whirlpool, 4 DH) along side citra (2oz boil, 1ozWP, 4oz DH) and I am getting all kinds of that bitterness noted above. I think its the polyphenols from the VS mucking things up. I agree it isn't all too pleasant. going to try to gelatin it out...see if it helps. been two weeks in the keg already and its improved slightly, but not much.

 

[lumbergh]

I brewed this with mandarina bavaria last night. Underestimated my efficiency and ended up 1.070 SG. We'll see how it is in a few weeks.