American Wheat recipe

[Aki]

Edited: it seems this is not going to be an APA after all but American Wheat.

Hi all,

I would love to hear your feedback on my recipe. There are a lot of videos about the topic but it's still quite hard to figure out if I am at right direction.

I added wheat malt partly because it's what I have and partly because I would like to achieve haziness and more thick than 'watery' mouthfeel.

For an APA it's too golden/straw with SRM of 3,67 but it doesn't bother me unless it's a clear mistake in recipe (should I add caramalts?)

67,4% Pilsner
25,6% Wheat
7% Cara Pale

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Chinook 16 ibu @60min
Amarillo 6 ibu @10min
Mosaic 16 ibu @10min

Total 38 ibu with approx. 0,75 bu:gu ratio.

I'm new to building recipes and the idea behind hops would be to get bitter piney backbone (Chinook) but not too much dank aroma, it should be more fruity/citrusy.

 

[grampamark]

Here’s the wheat recipe I’m brewing as I post this (just started the chiller). I had a keg of this on tap before Xmas and, between guests and sending out a few growlers, the keg kicked the day after. It’s become one of my house beers; even lite beer drinkers like this one.

 

[marc1]

Edited: it seems this is not going to be an APA after all but American Wheat.

Hi all,

I would love to hear your feedback on my recipe. There are a lot of videos about the topic but it's still quite hard to figure out if I am at right direction.

I added wheat malt partly because it's what I have and partly because I would like to achieve haziness and more thick than 'watery' mouthfeel.

For an APA it's too golden/straw with SRM of 3,67 but it doesn't bother me unless it's a clear mistake in recipe (should I add caramalts?)

67,4% Pilsner
25,6% Wheat
7% Cara Pale

--
Chinook 16 ibu @60min
Amarillo 6 ibu @10min
Mosaic 16 ibu @10min

Total 38 ibu with approx. 0,75 bu:gu ratio.

I'm new to building recipes and the idea behind hops would be to get bitter piney backbone (Chinook) but not too much dank aroma, it should be more fruity/citrusy.

While it's important to keep track of the IBUs of later hop additions, expressing them as IBUs doesn't really get the whole picture. If you're doing a volume independent recipe like above, late additions might be better given as oz (or grams) per post-boil gallon. I like to put my late additions into a recipe first based on their flavor/aroma contributions, then adjust the amount of the bittering addition to get my desired IBUs.

If you want more body, mash high and pick a yeast that will provide it. Wyeast 1450 (Denny's Favorite 50) gives a lot of body.

For Pale Ales I like ~45 IBUs based on my software calculations, but where you're at is reasonable. Brew it and adjust bitterness for the next one if it is off from your preferences a bit.

Based on your BU:GU, it looks like your OG is 1.050?

I don't worry about color too much for these, but you could adjust with a very small amount of a dark malt if you want it darker.

 

[Aki]

Thanks. I am planning to brew this day after tomorrow and I have us-05 in the fridge so I will probably go with it for this batch, I will look into the yeasts you mentioned though. Good to know that the recipe is not completely off.

The hops in grams are:

AMOUNT10 g	VARIETYNorthern Brewer - Chinook	COST	TYPEPellet	AA12	USEBoil	TIME60 min	IBU15.99	BILL %19.6%
AMOUNT15 g	VARIETYAmarillo	COST	TYPEPellet	AA8.6	USEBoil	TIME10 min	IBU6.23	BILL %29.4%
AMOUNT26 g	VARIETYMosaic	COST	TYPEPellet	AA12.5	USEBoil	TIME10 min	IBU15.7	BILL %51%

 

[marc1]

Thanks. I am planning to brew this day after tomorrow and I have us-05 in the fridge so I will probably go with it for this batch, I will look into the yeasts you mentioned though. Good to know that the recipe is not completely off.

The hops in grams are:

AMOUNT10 g	VARIETYNorthern Brewer - Chinook	COST	TYPEPellet	AA12	USEBoil	TIME60 min	IBU15.99	BILL %19.6%
AMOUNT15 g	VARIETYAmarillo	COST	TYPEPellet	AA8.6	USEBoil	TIME10 min	IBU6.23	BILL %29.4%
AMOUNT26 g	VARIETYMosaic	COST	TYPEPellet	AA12.5	USEBoil	TIME10 min	IBU15.7	BILL %51%

Is that for 5 gallons? I think a lot of Pale Ales nowadays use a lot more late hops (making them closer to IPAs), but this is good, it just depends what you are going for.

 

[Aki]

Is that for 5 gallons? I think a lot of Pale Ales nowadays use a lot more late hops (making them closer to IPAs), but this is good, it just depends what you are going for.

Yes it's 5 gallons. Good to know that there typically is more late hops, thank you! I will adjust the recipe accordingly and change some Chinook hops from the beginning to late Amarillo hops instead.

 

[marc1]

Yes it's 5 gallons. Good to know that there typically is more late hops, thank you! I will adjust the recipe accordingly and change some Chinook hops from the beginning to late Amarillo hops instead.

You're fine where you are, there's just lots of hops being used nowadays.

I know there's an episode within the last 2 years or so of Dr Homebrew from the Brewing Network that judges a Pale Ale that did well in competition. IIRC the brewer also used a lot of wheat in his recipe, and also used a lot more hops than the style would have called for back in the day.

 

[RufusBrewer]

While it's important to keep track of the IBUs of later hop additions, expressing them as IBUs doesn't really get the whole picture. If you're doing a volume independent recipe like above, late additions might be better given as oz (or grams) per post-boil gallon. I like to put my late additions into a recipe first based on their flavor/aroma contributions, then adjust the amount of the bittering addition to get my desired IBUs.

+1

The most unambiguous method of expressing hop additions iis:

X.xx ounces Variety YY.yy AA @ ZZ minutes.

Scale (up or down) the amount of hops to reflect differences AA value for the hops you have on hand.

This accurately reflects a hop addition and is agnostic with regards to the IBU formula e.g. Tinseth, Ragar, utilization chart from some book, etc.