bh10
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LOL, Obama did say there is 57 states recently, so maybe they know something we dont.
Alabama Homebrewing still Illegal
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LOL, Obama did say there is 57 states recently, so maybe they know something we dont.
uncommonsense
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BrewThruYou said:
DC maybe counts as its own
dwarven_stout
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Puerto Rico or DC, I'd imagine.
Beezy
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dwarven_stout said:
Puerto Rico pretty much is a state they just haven't figured out how to redesign the flag.
Sometimes Puerto Rico and DC are included.
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Beezy
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My wife is telling me Guam and American Samoa's. What else maybe there are 57? I don't think they will ever add another official state. It may seem like a joke but seriously I don't think they have any plans of changing the flag.
uncommonsense
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Beezy said:
why would they they dont have to pay state taxes.
The Virgin and Mariana islands.
how can you ban mead, when you dont even know what it is. scumbags.
alabama is dumb.
and their accents are dumber.
maybe we should start a facebook thing(i dont have one, but i'll make one) and get a couple hundred thousand homebrewers to unite into one voice, and scream at these idiots.
remember election day is coming.
alabama is dumb.
and their accents are dumber.
maybe we should start a facebook thing(i dont have one, but i'll make one) and get a couple hundred thousand homebrewers to unite into one voice, and scream at these idiots.
remember election day is coming.
Right, but you (and most of the people here) don't ge to vote for them. And the people who do live there and do get to vote for them probably agree with them. It is Democracy: the right to limit your rights as long as the majority agrees.
My favorite part was how easy it will be for minors to get beer if homebrewing is legal. "They just have to find someone to make it for them" - it's like they think brewing is baking cookies. Sorry sir, but I don't think any high schooler is going to go through the trouble of getting somebody to make them beer and wait a month when they can just give the hobo outside the liquor store a $20 and walk away with a case of natty.
ChandlerBang
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Do you mind boiling some wort, fermenting and bottling some beer for me. I'll pay you $20. Oh and who in the hell keeps 100 gallons of beer on tap at a time. If you know this person let me know because there's a party that needs to be thrown.
+1. The people of the state have spoken. Personally, I enjoy the freedom to not have other states telling my state what's good for us.
If you want to change your laws, get the word out. Inform people. Educate them.
I stand behind the Homebrewers in Alabama. Unless you are going to make it a completely dry state, allowing homebrewing only makes sense. (And FYI - Dry counties would still be able to enforce their dry polices, since county laws override the state laws.)
But the people who want homebrewing are not the people who voted the current lawmakers into power. And they are not likely to vote those people into power anytime soon. Homebrewing is such a small thing compared to real issues, honestly.
The best thing is to get people to understand how Homebrewing is a safe, and worthwhile hobby.
OTOH, somebody who would make comments as stupid as the lawmakers in that video, I wouldn't really trust them to tackle the "real issues" either!
"What's to stop people from making moonshine?"
The same thing there is now: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, other than the fact that it's illegal. That's such a stupid question. It would be like if there was a bill to reduce restrictions on growing corn, and some idiot says, "If we let people grow corn, what's to stop them from growing marijuana?"
As far as the North/South thing: Those in the North, like myself, ought to watch themselves a bit, there are plenty of intelligent people down south, and it's unfair to stereotype them all as a bunch of ignorant Bible-thumpin' inbred hillbillies. Those in the South, you also need to recognize there are significant social and cultural problems that go beyond what exists in other parts of the country, and furthermore that there are far too many ignorant Bible-thumpin' inbred hillbillies around those parts.
And there are plenty of people in northern states that would like to see homebrewing banned (no reference, just assuming) as well as block other issues that increase access to beer. Just because homebrewing is legal where you live now, does not mean it will always be in the future.
ChandlerBang
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*shudders*
Scruffy1207
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Beerrific said:
You're going to give us nightmares, stop it, stop it now!
BrewMoreBeers
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as long as there is a second amendment we will be fine. I'll give them my boil kettle when they take it from my cold, dead hands.
lextasy23
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MA Legislators wouldn't be stupid enough to make it illegal.
Boston beer drinkers are a force not to be reckoned with.
Boston beer drinkers are a force not to be reckoned with.
Nightbiker
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Same here. MY kettles will remain in operation as long as I draw breath -well that and have a way to put a fire under 'em
Come to think of it, I have an old Boston Terrier that should provide enough fuel (methane) if I could stand to get close enough to that end of the dog to bottle the uh, fuel. That or put a hose in her behind and run it to the burners.... green fuel!Don't be so sure, at least as long as there are nutjobs like Joe Arpaio around. If he'll send a freaking tank to bust an unarmed guy running a cockfighting ring, don't doubt they'll send one to go after innocent homebrewers too.
(To be clear, I'm not comparing homebrewing, which is a totally awesome and fun hobby, to cockfighting, which is cruel and rightfully illegal. I'm just using this to illustrate that the militarization of local police departments caused by the failed drug war calls into question your strategy of "I'ma use my huntin' rifle!" to escape enforcement of laws you don't like...)
dwarven_stout
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Two points:
First, military style raids in pursuit of warrants for non-violent crimes are dangerous for everyone. Problem is, too many boys like to pretend that they're elite by playing dressup with real machine guns. Did you know that no less than 30 federal agencies can form their own SWAT now, thanks to the PATRIOT act?
Second, that's not a tank. It's an APC, like a version of the Army M1117 but without the turret. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1117_Armored_Security_Vehicle
Scruffy1207
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jsweet said:
Screw the tank, I'm more worried about steven segal. I've seen a bunch of his documentaries: Under Seige, Under Seige Two: Dark Territory, Above The Law. He is much worse than any tank.
Heh, I'd wondered about that, but all the news reports called it a "tank" so I just repeated that.
Spot-on about this shenanigans being dangerous for everyone, though. Don't even get me started about wrong-door SWAT raids. You're lucky if the only thing they kill is your dog. Bastards...
Nightbiker
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and as for the unarmed cockfighting ring, I'm not going to fault the cops for going in armed to the teeth and ready for anything. cockfighting is really big with the illegal alien crowd (Im sorry, I'm NOT going to call them by their media-mandated PC name. They are what they are, period) and those boys are rarely unarmed. We have enough of a problem with them in the areas around where I live, and working in the ER, I see the end-results of those thugs more often than I've cared to admit.
Scruffy1207
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Nightbiker said:
Agree'd, I had a co-worker who cockfighted and he had a couple AK's as well as a collection of pistols. As far as I'm concerned, people get what they deserve. You know the saying: If you do the crime, your wall gets knocked down with a f***ing tank.
Except that they actually had some info on this guy that he was probably at home, by himself, unarmed. Did you read the article? They did it for a TV show -- they had Steven Segal riding along. And the sheriff who orchestrated the whole thing is uber-tool Joe Arpaio, who never heard of a civil right he didn't want to take a giant $&*! on....
