A Tribute to Hunahpu

[edecambra]

First year I'm not attending and wish I was!


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[Oophaga]

Holly crap. That was insane. So many people had fake tickets, supposed to be less than last year, felt like twice a many people. And the sad part is the flack that ccb is getting over others scamming. Don't get me wrong they should have been checking and properly scanning tickets. Still very sad they are gonna lose that 150,000. Huge hit for such a small company.

 

[allenH]

Holly crap. That was insane. So many people had fake tickets, supposed to be less than last year, felt like twice a many people. And the sad part is the flack that ccb is getting over others scamming. Don't get me wrong they should have been checking and properly scanning tickets. Still very sad they are gonna lose that 150,000. Huge hit for such a small company.

Right, I read a article the day of the event about the "strange" amount of tickets available on Craigslist. There are tons of events in the same price range with non-duplicable tickets (try to get into the Daytona 500 with a fake ticket). Use better tickets and make them buy their allotment as soon as you walk in the door. You might have to schlep around all day with 3 bottles if beer, but at least you got them. It sucks that they are taking the financial hit, but that event was horrible.

 

[edecambra]

I guess I'm glad that I couldn't make it. Wow! Remember that the losses that they are taking are only in costs, they sold out the hunahpu right? And should have made some decent coin on those sales. At 50 bucks a pop they stood to make a healthy profit off if a few samples as who knew their costs. part of the reason I was going back and forth about going was the expense of a ticket. I knew me and my wife wouldn't drink damn near that much to make up for it.


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[skeezerpleezer]

Holly crap. That was insane. So many people had fake tickets, supposed to be less than last year, felt like twice a many people. And the sad part is the flack that ccb is getting over others scamming. Don't get me wrong they should have been checking and properly scanning tickets. Still very sad they are gonna lose that 150,000. Huge hit for such a small company.

I am pretty sure CCB has more income than any of the attendees, so I would rather see them lose than all the people that paid money to attend the cluster****. ....It was the worst event experience of my life.

The $150,000 or whatever they "lost" is because people did not get what was advertised or what they paid for.

 

[FATC1TY]

Yeah, I read that it was an absolute **** show. Worse time ever.

CCB has plenty of money. Joey's dad will back up whatever the hell they need. The refunds for the event is a drop in the bucket, the damage control they have to do is where they will make up the losses.

I hate it for the folks who flew in to the event and traveled really far, booked rooms, and took time off work for that **** show. It's just beer, and beer geeks can **** up a good time quick.

 

[ja09]

I hate it for the folks who flew in to the event and traveled really far, booked rooms, and took time off work for that **** show. It's just beer, and beer geeks can **** up a good time quick.

I'm a little disappointed, but I would be very disappointed if I didn't ignore their advise and show up early. The people that did ignore their advise were rewarded by access to purchase a case of double barrel hunahpu and unlimited other rare ones, so how does that work!?

I did miss out on my 3 bottles which I'm bummed about, and the event was awful after 1pm. All in all I flew across the country and got to try 5 or 6 beers I really wanted, hang out at some crazy bottle shares, and purchase some rare ones, so I guess I'm happy?.. Not really sure. Pegs was awesome though!


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[Oophaga]

Last one. Sucks people scam and the honest suffer.

 

[edecambra]

Honestly, I really like the move to send it out to distribution. The only reason there is a ton of hype for this or any other beer is the exclusivity, and the hype just makes **** crazy! It is just beer but as long as CCB is whipping up the craziness by charging 50 bucks just for the privilege to buy a few 20 dollar bottles of beer, things like this will only get worse (thinking of DLD of course).

I think a better move would be to just have a beer fest marking the day that these bottles go out to distribution, not actually selling them at the event, which brings the crazies out and people looking to score a bunch and turn them out for a hansom profit on the "black" secondary market.

 

[Grannyknot]

I talked to one guy that was a concert promoter and claimed he was pretty good at doing an accurate head count by just looking at a mass of people. He estimated that at one point during the afternoon, there was 8,000 (including the people still in line to get in). If he's correct, that's an incredible amount of fake tickets.

 

[wobrien]

I talked to one guy that was a concert promoter and claimed he was pretty good at doing an accurate head count by just looking at a mass of people. He estimated that at one point during the afternoon, there was 8,000 (including the people still in line to get in). If he's correct, that's an incredible amount of fake tickets.

Assuming this is true (I've heard 8-9-10k people) wouldn't this be worth a police investigation? That's serious fraud, committed primarily by a few people most likely.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I talked to one guy that was a concert promoter and claimed he was pretty good at doing an accurate head count by just looking at a mass of people. He estimated that at one point during the afternoon, there was 8,000 (including the people still in line to get in). If he's correct, that's an incredible amount of fake tickets.

Or a lot of additional tickets that were sold by CCB/eventbrite but not reported. I highly doubt there were more fakes than real tickets. A couple hundred? Maybe. Thousands? Unlikely.

 

[Grannyknot]

............ I highly doubt there were more fakes than real tickets. A couple hundred? Maybe. Thousands? Unlikely.

Maybe you're right, but a few days before the event, there were A LOT of different craigslist ads selling tickets. Some can still be found.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

either way..the blame is still on CCB for not having a secure way of scanning the tickets to ensure they were real and only used once.

 

[sfrisby]

I really hope after the pain wears off, Joey gets talked into restoring it and hiring a crew that's experienced at managing these events along with comparing ID's with names on the ticket. Doesn't take many $175,000 losses to justify that expense.

 

[Pilgarlic]

I had a ball. I don't tend to go for rock stars in music, literature, movies or beer, so my expectations weren't wrapped up in "scoring" my Hunahpu's. I attend every year and rarely buy my allotment. I'll enjoy the fest more next year when it doesn't revolve around fanatical rock star beer groupies rending their garments and tearing their hair for a glimpse of their god. Bierdos!

 

[edecambra]

Seriously, The past two years I went I had a blast, but actually lining up to get the Hunahpu was the biggest pain of the day! I'm glad to hear that it is being distributed but I would love to still have the fest to celebrate the release, just not the direct sale.

And please remember that this is not a "loss" of 175,000 or what ever the ticket sales came out to. The only lost is the outlaid costs for the day, being the extra staff, permitting for the event, off duty cops to help crowd control, and then the beers poured (if they even paid for this beer in the first place). They actually sold all the bottles of hunahpu, so no loss there either (not to mention probably the highest profit margin beer they make, with no middle man distributors cut and it goes for 20 bucks a pop!). It is fair to say that they "missed out" on the 175,000 dollars in revenue, but it is not a loss as it is that people paid in the first place.

I'm curious about the El Cantadors club members, who's exclusive "special" hunahpus were reportedly sold to the general public, at a ONE CASE LIMIT per person! Is this true for those who went as it seems like a huge slap in the face to the most loyal supporters?

 

[allenH]

Seriously, The past two years I went I had a blast, but actually lining up to get the Hunahpu was the biggest pain of the day! I'm glad to hear that it is being distributed but I would love to still have the fest to celebrate the release, just not the direct sale.

And please remember that this is not a "loss" of 175,000 or what ever the ticket sales came out to. The only lost is the outlaid costs for the day, being the extra staff, permitting for the event, off duty cops to help crowd control, and then the beers poured (if they even paid for this beer in the first place). They actually sold all the bottles of hunahpu, so no loss there either (not to mention probably the highest profit margin beer they make, with no middle man distributors cut and it goes for 20 bucks a pop!). It is fair to say that they "missed out" on the 175,000 dollars in revenue, but it is not a loss as it is that people paid in the first place.

I'm curious about the El Cantadors club members, who's exclusive "special" hunahpus were reportedly sold to the general public, at a ONE CASE LIMIT per person! Is this true for those who went as it seems like a huge slap in the face to the most loyal supporters?

I am not a el Catador member, but the 2 that were standing in line with me didn't seem upset about it, and instructed me as to which ones were the better beers. On BA though, the general consensus was the el catador members were losing their minds.

 

[ArcaneXor]

On BA though, the general consensus was the el catador members were losing their minds.

Well, many of us were surprised by the sale of the beers that we, erroneously, believed were more or less exclusive to the club. Also, there was the fact that they asked people to show up fashionably late and sold the beers by the case, which meant that the people who actually followed their instructions not to line up early had no chance of getting them.

Overall, I don't think it's a big deal. I have my beers. I had fun at Hunahpu's Day, despite all the issues.

 

[VSGLS1]

I'm an El Catador member and was a little mad they sold 72 cases of DB Huna to the public like they did. Don G has been in the taproom since November. Hope they take the feedback for the 2nd edition and maybe offer more extras to the club members aside from 1.


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[edecambra]

If I was an a Catador member, and paid 125 dollars for the privilege to get exclusive beers I'd be damn pissed about them being sold to those who had not paid the 125 dollars! Glad I'm not a member.

This really sucks. I love most all of the beers that CCB sends out, but their track record for organization of these events has been spotty for sure. I remember going in for the barrel aged hunahpu release a few years ago and remembering the complete lack of forethought to how set up lines and remember it being a real **** show, too. I want them to be successful because I love the beers they brew but they really need to get some talented folks on board to do the event organizing.

 

[Oophaga]

The people from El Catador got not only a bottle of each, forget how many but came out to an average of 25$ a bottle, now if they wanted more they could get a guaranteed second that they had to pay for. The initial bottles were included in the 125 so there is no reason to be upset. Its more upsetting that they rewarded those that didn't do as they asked and waited in line early.

 

[Oophaga]

PS, am I the only one that hasnt got their refund yet?

 

[wobrien]

PS, am I the only one that hasnt got their refund yet?

No, I haven't gotten one either.

 

[VSGLS1]

The second bottles weren't a sure thing. I've not gotten my refund yet either.


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[edecambra]

The people from El Catador got not only a bottle of each, forget how many but came out to an average of 25$ a bottle, now if they wanted more they could get a guaranteed second that they had to pay for. The initial bottles were included in the 125 so there is no reason to be upset. Its more upsetting that they rewarded those that didn't do as they asked and waited in line early.

OK, well that is different, if you already paid for them in the club membership.

Cheers all,

 

[wobrien]

PS, am I the only one that hasnt got their refund yet?

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[BrianDorry55]

If I was an a Catador member, and paid 125 dollars for the privilege to get exclusive beers I'd be damn pissed about them being sold to those who had not paid the 125 dollars! Glad I'm not a member.

This really sucks. I love most all of the beers that CCB sends out, but their track record for organization of these events has been spotty for sure. I remember going in for the barrel aged hunahpu release a few years ago and remembering the complete lack of forethought to how set up lines and remember it being a real **** show, too. I want them to be successful because I love the beers they brew but they really need to get some talented folks on board to do the event organizing.

I think you have the wrong impression. El Catador club simply guarantees that you get a bottle of each barrel-aged beer through the duration of your membership (5 barrel-aged releases)...and the bottles are included in the $125 membership fee...It's not like only the Catador club members are supposed to have restricted access to barrel-aged beers...they just get first dibs, and a bottle of each.

 

[edecambra]

I think you have the wrong impression. El Catador club simply guarantees that you get a bottle of each barrel-aged beer through the duration of your membership (5 barrel-aged releases)...and the bottles are included in the $125 membership fee...It's not like only the Catador club members are supposed to have restricted access to barrel-aged beers...they just get first dibs, and a bottle of each.

I was definitely under the wrong impression. This appears much more egalitarian than what I had in mind.

And good luck with the berliner!

 

[FLBrew]

I will definitely be renewing my membership for El Catador with the less likely chance of getting a bottle of Huna through distribution.


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