A Genuine Viewpoint Opposing LODO As Unsubstantiated

[Bilsch]

Might want to rethink the LOB, many think LODO is a Lot Of Bull

Eh.. those 'many' you describe are a herd I'd rather not follow, too much crap to step in.

 

[ba-brewer]

Good thing about this country is everyone is free to think what they want to!

Doesn’t change my generally low opinion of what other people think but in the words of Chuck Berry:

“It’s a free country. Live how you wanna live baby.”

(I am Derek Scott and I support this message )

Eh.. those 'many' you describe are a herd I'd rather not follow, too much crap to step in.

Just want to clarify I do not follow/belong to either herd and still hold an open mind to the LODO/LOB process. I just seen an opportunity for a dumb joke and took it.

Since this thread started it pushed me to finally try the LODO/LOB process. First time was an impromptu batch as I forgot to set my ezboil to mash mode and overheated my mash water so seized the opportunity. The other two were deliberate. The two ale batches had sulfur issues and the lager had a elevated sulfur level during fermenting but the finish product was clean. The ales I would say were sub par to my normal process due to sulfur issues and the lager was to par. I will say all three were done without the benefit of sulfite test strips so I really put too much weight to the end results. I do have test strips now and the next attempt I will make use of them to monitor the process. I am still debating whether to spring for a DO meter before the next batch, but I will give it another try or two some day.

I have always conditioned my grain and milled immediately before mash in as well as only ever fermented clean trub free wort. Over the last couple year I have incorporated a mash cap and reduced boil intensity and few other LODO/LOB recommendations into my normal process.

 

[brewbama]

I'm wondering when will a hobbyist write their own book on it, making it cliff notes version of the those two known sources.

I’ve asked a leading expert.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I’ve asked a leading expert.

Who be that?

 

[brewbama]

Good thing about this country is everyone is free to think what they want to!

+1

 

[mongoose33]

Geez, why are people so worked up over this?

Do LODO, don't do LODO; nobody is a better person for choosing one or the other.

If people want to invest in a super setup, that's their choice. Sometimes people just want to push the boundaries of a hobby, sometimes just to see if something can be done, and if so, how. More power to them.

Others want simplicity and frugality. More power to them, too.

There is something to LODO; whether it's worth the money and effort is a conclusion each individual has to reach on their own. But choosing to do it, or not do it, or partially do it, does not provide grounds for denigrating others' choices.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Nobody said you need a professional brewery in your basement to make great beer. This is a very popular straw man on this forum. There are plenty of people single infusing in coolers and doing LOB.

You are missing the forest for the trees here.

Like me. [emoji1]

My set up will allow for infusions, step mashing, and thin decoctions if I want to do that. Right now it's all with gravity. Back and forth underletting from cooler to kettle.

 

[ba-brewer]

"Be just what you is, not what you is not. Folks what do this has the happiest lot." Mr Wizard the Lizard

 

[bdogg171]

Geez, why are people so worked up over this?

Do LODO, don't do LODO; nobody is a better person for choosing one or the other.

If people want to invest in a super setup, that's their choice. Sometimes people just want to push the boundaries of a hobby, sometimes just to see if something can be done, and if so, how. More power to them.

Others want simplicity and frugality. More power to them, too.

There is something to LODO; whether it's worth the money and effort is a conclusion each individual has to reach on their own. But choosing to do it, or not do it, or partially do it, does not provide grounds for denigrating others' choices.

Perfect!!

 

[doug293cz]

Thread is closed again for a cooling down period. Someone made a denigrating comment about another member, which is never allowed. That spawned some responses and side discussions which were also deleted.

Remember to keep the discussion about LoDO/LOB, and not the personalities involved. I will reopen this thread after a while, but if it gets side tracked into sniping again, it will be closed forever.

doug293cz
HBT Moderator